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**kiranvarghese40** · 06-12-2016, 04:15 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by vRide View Post

Sad to here that..even they did the oil on front disc nasty job to my bike and I had a heart at mouth situation today with in 500mts from that service centre. Never gona go back there or to any Haiku SC's

They tend to do that at most svc's. They once did that to my Honda aviator, after that I always instruct them not to use any oil on my bikes. The oil is useless anyway, it just collects dust.

**Zeit** · 06-12-2016, 10:17 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Yes. Honda svc in Mumbai also very poor. Barring a very few.
Hope they get some brains soon

**vaRider** · 06-12-2016, 11:49 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Zeit View Post

@prab1990

Hi bro.
I did reply but post was deleted because i used sms language. Anyway back to your question.

I have January 2016 black cbs model. Ridden 7500kms almost.
Here is my view.

If you compare with your Tvs it lacks little bit on acceleration. (Rtr factor).
But vibration are not present. In Rtr post 85 you feel vibration. Mileage also better. Top grunt also more.

HORNET city ride.
Low end performance is average. Post 3000 rpm the torque kicks in. Flicking through traffic is awesome. Steering is precise at best. In start stop traffic you can get 45 kmpl on proper ride sync.

Cornering is bit hesitant because the steering goes in first and you need little effort to get the rear end in. But thats very little effort.

Tyres are good. Dry grip is very good but in wet conditions maintain alert.

Highway ride can run day out in 90 to 100 speeds.

My experience.
City 47kmpl (45 to 55 speeds)
Highway 52kmpl (top gear 60 to 80 speeds)
Top speed 127 kmph

About waiting period. Depends in region to region and which color and model you choose. Please contact nearest dealer.
At the end of the day. Please take a test ride.

All the best. Ride safe!

Nice review! Thanks.

I've done 2400 KM till now. Got bike in Feb 2nd week.
Bike acceleration not that good. On 1st gear it goes only 15 at ~3500 RPM. If you try to take it to 20, it makes really big noise, unsettling.
On 4th and 5th gear after 4500 RPM, it really picks up power. Even 80-100 acceleration is decent.

I agree with most of the points. But 127 top speed is too much. On Plain road I got 114 kmph. Were you riding on descent?

Most annoying things:

Sometimes very harsh grunt noise comes up when you accelerate hard till 60-80 and it stays.
At same case, it vibrates a lot on 70-80 range.
Headlight throw is worst. Even Splendor, Passion have good throws. Honda spoiled the headlight by making it Y-shape.
Headlight gets scattered, not focussed. LED 50-60 W is required.
The indicators are too far out. After putting parking cover, it gets stressed over the indicators.

I will give 3.5/5 stars.

Please comment if you have same issues or know how to resolve it.

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Originally posted by prab1990 View Post

Hi guys bumping my question again. Hoping for some answers. Thanks

Go for 200 or more CC bike.
In my opinion, if you already had Apache 160, then no point in buying 160 CC again.
If your budget permits, then go for CBR250R, Duke 200. Even Gixxer 250 will be launched soon.

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Originally posted by raghavac3 View Post

Hi Folks,

I have given my Hornet to first service 10 days ago and after fist service I am observing below problems.

1) Mileage dropped from >=52 to <=42 in city ( first fuel line blink to blink). Never checked highway mileage.
2) While starting the bike, guzzle kind of sound coming along with engine regular sound.
3) In 30 to 40 speed itself, lot of vibration in right foot pad. Due to which I am getting numbness in right leg.
4) Jerks are coming in lower gears, especially in second and third gear.
5) Pickup dropped completely and engine running hard like grinder.(not with regular sound).

Can any one help what could be the wrong?. Planning to visit service center once.

They way you calculated mileage may not be accurate.
The fuel indicator is very inaccurate. Don't go for blinking indicator. Try to calculate when bike actually stops or you feel like it is about to run out of main fuel. That's more precise.
I got around 50 kmpl for 300 KM which had ~220 KM of 60-80 highway riding.

Yes, about sound I agree. Too much noise. I don't like it at all. It wasn't there before 1st service. Pickup not that great, even activa overtakes Hornet if you try not to make big noise..

Grinder sound very uncomfortable..

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Originally posted by Motomonster View Post

Was it same in initial 3000kms I am asking because my bike has logged 2600 kms and the bike is feeling harsh with vibrations creeping in at 3k rpm along with harsh engine sounds after traveling 20 minutes in traffic.

Exactly!! I've done 2400 KMs and I too have same issue.
SVC says bike after more running it will be smoother. How many KMs more. I'm tired of this.

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Originally posted by mac4rfree View Post

Guys, So i have ridden my bike for 650 KMs. I am due for first service, i will be giving it on monday mostly, so that i will cross 750 KMs.

Sometimes, the accelerator seems very harsh, even though am below 4k RPM. But if i come down completely and then that feeling is gone.

Any idea as what is going on?

Also, sometimes, the gear changing is very butter smooth, but the change of gear from 1st to 2nd is very harsh.

And there is Chain slack issue.

Keeping these in mind, what should i ask the SVCs guys to look at ? Will they do fix these issues during free service?

Bike will get little smoother after more riding. Mine got smooth after 1500 KM or so. The more you ride in city traffic, the faster it will be smoother.

Just give choke for 30-50 seconds on 1st start then the noise reduces.

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Originally posted by Zeit View Post

It is butter smooth. I get vibe after 105 speeds that too controlled ones.
Except for the 73 to 85 speed band. It feels rough and angry.

Also i am using Honda's Throttle oil. It is very good.

How many kms you done? What is your experience??

So you meant that in 73 to 85 bike feels very rough right?
I'm having this issue since long time. Sometimes it also makes boom type deep sound. Why does it feel that Honda has not done good job with this bike? Unicorn runs so smooth. What's wrong with Hornet?

One thing that, if you ride bike slowly for 10-15 kms below 60 kmph and then rev it up slowly, then bike runs super smooth on 70-90 speeds.
Even the engine noise becomes very low, almost inaudible. I think, the oil is the issue in this case.

Any expert can throw some light please?

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Originally posted by Zeit View Post

No.
It was fine.

Maybe you log in 3k rpm in higher gears. On an average on mineral oil bike tends to be harsh if you rev it in wrong/ lower gears.
In traffic you will feel roughness because you dont change gears even at 25 to 30 in 2nd gear riding. It's normal . But as per my experience it changes when you hit a smooth flowing traffic zone.
To b very frank my experience with service centres are pathetic at best.

You can try Honda throttle oil after second service. I believe YOUR experience will b pleasant

Yeah you're totally right about noise.

Even my experience is not that good. Do you know good SVC in Mumbai/Thane? I want to see my bike serviced all steps. These people don't do their jobs correctly.

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Originally posted by bsmn99 View Post

Stickers done by my personal willings only, but at the time of delivery I didn't notice the difference, but after two to three times rides in rain I got a little visual the tank color is different when the water evaporates in sun.

That's so frustrating friend.

I also had same feeling when Pilot lamp fused out.

**Shashank K R** · 06-12-2016, 11:55 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

On unicorn 160 sometimes after the engine gets heated due to riding in heavy traffic, it feels very harsh. When there's an empty stretch of road, I stop and then start riding again but revving hard (7-8k shifts). I do this for a short distance (say like a signal to signal drag&#128521

and suddenly the engine becomes smooth.

**vaRider** · 06-12-2016, 12:36 PM

Cruising speeds?

I'm planning to go on long trip of 400 KM - one way on Hornet.

So, in order to cover distance very fast, I want to ride Hornet at 80-95 kmph.
Will this put strain on engine if I ride it this way for 130-170 km straight?

What kind of tools, oils will be required if it gets heated up or stops.

**Shashank K R** · 06-12-2016, 01:31 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

You can ride at that speed all day. No problems. It's only the rider who needs a break.

Well I've not ridden for such a long distance, but I think it's best you carry a spare spark plug and the necessary tools.

**Gollum** · 06-12-2016, 01:36 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

I was against posting a comment like the one I am going to post in the past but it sure feels good when you see another xbhpian.

I was at NGF signal and I saw the xbhp symbol at the front mudguard.

I was on my splendor wearing my SOL helmet but without the cam

**prab1990** · 06-12-2016, 02:34 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

[MENTION=79796]vaRider[/MENTION] - thanks for your reply. I will consider Apache 200 as well.

**Zeit** · 06-12-2016, 05:56 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by prab1990 View Post

[MENTION=79796]vaRider[/MENTION] - thanks for your reply. I will consider Apache 200 as well.

200 4v is gonna b a gem. All the best

**Divya Sharan** · 06-12-2016, 06:06 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

To folks suffering with harsh engine behavior:
Please try a 20w40 engine oil (just use any mineral oil).
Please do NOT inform the SVC about this. Mechanics cannot say the oil grade while draining oil anyways.
Warm up your bike as a habit before every cold start for 45 seconds to a minute and take the first couple of km slowly.

Then please update if it helped or not.

Thanks.

**Zeit** · 06-12-2016, 06:08 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

[MENTION=79796]vaRider[/MENTION]

At first gear 15 is perfect. Beyond that you are killing your bike.
Top speed was on Palm beach Road. I streamlined by bending on tank. No descends.. . Straight highway.
It's how you notch in your gears. I shifted for 5th at ~103

Hornet is a high compression 10:1 engine for better performance and cleaner emissions BS4. It has it's own sweet points.

Headlights even i am not satisfied.

Yes that 70 to 85 band i hate it.

Can't suggest any Service Stations because Firstly I am an Amateur and this is my first bike. Even i am taking my chances ; that helps learn better. I have a local mechanic who is helpful.

Love your BIKE.Ride safe

**Zeit** · 06-12-2016, 06:10 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Gollum View Post

I was against posting a comment like the one I am going to post in the past but it sure feels good when you see another xbhpian.

I was at NGF signal and I saw the xbhp symbol at the front mudguard.

I was on my splendor wearing my SOL helmet but without the cam

I will get my bike tattooed soon then xBhp

**Shashank K R** · 06-12-2016, 06:30 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

I've tried 20w40 (summer), it was incredibly hard to start the bike in the mornings. Acceleration and top speed is affected. It was Motul 3000 4T.

But on the flipside it is amazing for long rides and in very heavy traffic with respect to engine heating. Harshness was still there though reduced.

Used it for around 1500km before draining thanks to a highway run.

**vaRider** · 06-12-2016, 07:41 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by prab1990 View Post

@vaRider - thanks for your reply. I will consider Apache 200 as well.

Wish you all the best!

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Originally posted by Shashank K R View Post

You can ride at that speed all day. No problems. It's only the rider who needs a break.

Well I've not ridden for such a long distance, but I think it's best you carry a spare spark plug and the necessary tools.

Thanks Shashank for this tip!

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Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

To folks suffering with harsh engine behavior:
Please try a 20w40 engine oil (just use any mineral oil).
Please do NOT inform the SVC about this. Mechanics cannot say the oil grade while draining oil anyways.
Warm up your bike as a habit before every cold start for 45 seconds to a minute and take the first couple of km slowly.

Then please update if it helped or not.

Thanks.

I'll surely try 20W40.
Generally, I warm up bike for 15-30 seconds and then ride below 4000 RPM for 3-4 kms. As you suggested, I will give choke for a minute.

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Originally posted by Zeit View Post

@vaRider

At first gear 15 is perfect. Beyond that you are killing your bike.
Top speed was on Palm beach Road. I streamlined by bending on tank. No descends.. . Straight highway.
It's how you notch in your gears. I shifted for 5th at ~103

Hornet is a high compression 10:1 engine for better performance and cleaner emissions BS4. It has it's own sweet points.

Headlights even i am not satisfied.

Yes that 70 to 85 band i hate it.

Can't suggest any Service Stations because Firstly I am an Amateur and this is my first bike. Even i am taking my chances ; that helps learn better. I have a local mechanic who is helpful.

Love your BIKE.Ride safe

Only in traffic when I need to get fast away, I do 15 on 1st, else I upshift before 3-4k always.

Such as:
Gear Min Max
1st 10 15
2nd 13 27
3rd 25 35
4th 30 45
5th 40

Woha, you shifted 5th gear at 103!! Nice that you streamlined

Thanks!! Ride safe!

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Originally posted by Shashank K R View Post

I've tried 20w40 (summer), it was incredibly hard to start the bike in the mornings. Acceleration and top speed is affected. It was Motul 3000 4T.

But on the flipside it is amazing for long rides and in very heavy traffic with respect to engine heating. Harshness was still there though reduced.

Used it for around 1500km before draining thanks to a highway run.

Thanks Shashank for sharing the experience.
With 20W40, it may be trouble now to start in monsoons.

Any idea how much engine oil needs to be poured while changing?

**Shashank K R** · 06-12-2016, 07:45 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

1L while normal oil change (make sure you tilt the bike also) and 1.2L if you open the clutch case.

On NICE Road once I attempted a top speed run. I touched 100 in 3rd gear[emoji13]. Touched top speed of 118. Best to cruise around 85-90.
Really tall gears. 51 in 1st gear, 73 in 2nd, 102 in 3rd, 118 in 4th.

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