Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Bro..Its actually other way around..ppl are not calling TVS bad as such.. For many (in my understanding), RTR 200 4V with FI + ABS + Pirelli is the UNBEATABLE package in 200cc league.. None of the competitors in this range are providing this combination.. And given that TVS has announced it to be available long back, ppl are eagerly waiting for it since quite long.. For many who are planning to upgrade from 150-180cc, they might turn to Bajaj AS/RS 200 if RTR 200 does not surface widely soon (even carb version took lot of time to be available in showrooms..).. In essence, its a frustration of bike not being available when you really want it.. .. Salt on the wound is that, there was news of RTR 200 exports being started in good amounts (don't recollect source of this news)..

@ Others - Please correct if you see my point as wrong..

P.S.- For that matter, I got call from TVS showroom in my area around week back to just SEE the bike.. Test drive was told to be available "VERY SOON".. Which I found very funny (sarcastically), given that we are already in July and promised dates were way back in May..

Cheers,
Prasad M

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

I agree that TVS deserves some criticism for not being able to follow up the launch in a reasonable time with enough stock to meet the customer demand, especially in their home country. We know that most of the FI/ABS are bikes are getting imported to Indonesia, Columbia and other international markets. Good for TVS but not so for their loyal fans in the home ground.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

I have booked Carb bike in Mysore. Still bikes are yet to come to showroom. Showroom guys have said they will get me ABS if it is launched at the time Mysore get Apache 200. I thought ABS would be safe in Slippery road and sudden braking, when Im getting at good price why I cant go for it!!

Yes, I'll consider your suggestion. Thanks

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Exactly, We are too impatient. people wait for bike after booking for months even if its already in market. RTR 200 is new, let it settle . Its worth to wait for something good.

Yes, have seen people going for other bike or basic option, including me .

Loyal Fans?

Really.

How do we prove loyalty.

I feel we are just machine lovers and TVS really produced a bike which is being loved by masses . and we all wanna have a hand on it if possible.

its frustration of consumer not of so called FANs. Fans do not complain I guess.

no one here will spare TVS if they have problem with their bikes.

please stop labeling other and yourself a FAN. It really does not sounds good.

just being a fan won't solve problem, we need to be good and responsible consumer/customer whatever


cheers !!

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

You are right!! Initially Total package they announced on Jan 22nd was Fi+ABS+Pirelli tyres. Later they said ABS+Fi will be launched "soon", word soon made me to wait. Mysore haven't got bikes yet . I took test ride in Bangalore and decided not to switch to any other than this bike.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Yeah even I wish there was no delay and it would have been a perfect fairy tale for Tvs in capturing the 200 cc segment. But unfortunately their strategies aren't unfolding as they planned. My only point was not to get frustrated with delays and especially over certain features which I too believe is bang on what a consumer requires. Venting out is good but it doesn't reach the manufacturers. And this is a ownership thread. So hence I put my points across.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Well, after about an year of contemplating a 200cc purchase, and an on and off thing for the NS/AS twins, I have been expecting a better RTR ever since the news got out. About a week ago, I took some time to test ride the bike (Shirley TVS, Mundhwa, Pune). What they had was as everywhere, Carb+Remora, had a horrible dealership experience right away. The person in-charge seemed too uninterested to make a sale, his nonchalance nearly pushed me away from TVS all together. But then I have fond memories with the RTR 160, and was really interested to see what they've cooked up in all this while.
I must say I was taken aback by the whole cohesiveness of the design, the rugged and long-lasting feeling panels and switchgear. I fell for the looks as soon as I took in the compactness of the whole thing as compared to an NS. The height and feel of the bike was awesome from the moment I got on the saddle. Thumbed the starter to behold the throaty exhaust, the bike revs cleanly and without any hesitation. The initial surge I got was a bit dissapointing, but then I quickly realised that I'm perhaps used to feeling the vibes build up with revs, and really noticed how quickly I was going through the gearbox.
After all the reviews that I got for the bike, the key points I can take away from the whole session would be summed up as:

• The bike is comfortable, quick and deceptively quick.
• The handling is spot on, with the bike feeling neutral through turns, even with mid-corner braking/corrections.
• The brakes I felt were fantastic too, I can't complain of any numbness with the 'feel'
• The gearing felt really short for the first 4 gears, although the fifth felt fine for cruising on entry triple digit figures. Maybe a different sprocket combination can compensate for that.
• The NVH of the thing was comparable to that of an RS200 (which I regard as much as the D200).

Overall, I can't wait to see how much FI can improve over what I experienced. Although I'm really interested in a longer ride, to gauge how it'll hold up for my 50km daily commute. I'm just hoping not putting off this purchase for another year.
And yeah, although I doubt that ABS will be available off the shelf, I wouldn't mind waiting for the later batch of machines. When you're riding on super slippery roads of Pune, ABS can be a boon when faced with the monstrous bus drivers. To anyone living in Pune, I have no idea how they manage to pull off such stopping distances in the middle of the road.

EDIT : Are invisible bullet points sorcery ?

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

I guess I will take the liberty of pointing out that your second post should have been your first.
In that way you could have requested everyone to maintain this thread only for ownership experiences and any queries for the bike from prospective customers to owners.
Instead we see you going (as you yourself said) OT and telling others that you don't need ABS or fi in bikes of 200cc in your opinion (which is your own business). But you can't expect others who have been waiting for the bike with fi or abs (after these were announced by tvs months ago) to just keep waiting for months (your point of going for other options is valid and good advice). Moreover, dude come on the reason some people are waiting for these features on this bike is because no other manufacturer is providing it. I understand that not many in India would go for these features but when the manufacturer has announced it then why not provide it (even the lady in the dealership in Bangalore I spoke to seemed slightly pissed about this).

In summary some good advice from your end but there is no need to tell others why their choices are unnecessary.

Oh yeah I forgot... OT.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

^^^Fair enough buddy. I guess everybody has their own point of view and requirements. I am not here to condemn or glorify someone's choices. I do accept that maybe I would have gone off topic or maybe I was just trying to calm the frustration. Apologies again if I ticked off anyone here. We are bikers here and I do believe we understand each other better.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

I hear you fellow Punekar.

Its easy. Just follow the rule #1 of city biking - don't be a douchebag, squid or a Rossi. ABS doesn't give anyone a license to pull of insane speeds just to stop midway on our slippery roads. I see squids doing it daily, but I keep a good distance. (*cough* DUKE 390 *cough*)

Even though I sorely miss ABS in my newly bought R15S in this current rainy season when I have to apply hard rear break when an Aunty decides to jump in the middle of the road from the divider, lack of ABS teaches you a few little things about braking. ABS or no ABS - its actually a combination of good sticky tires, good braking style and zero douchebaggery.

Regards.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Man it's extremely disappointing that this awesome bike doesn't have a 6th gear. I dearly wish they launch a touring-friendly variant of the RTR 200 with maybe an aerodynamic semi-fairing and a windshield, and update it with a tall-geared 6-speed Gearbox. Would make for a great budget tourer.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V





Bit surprised with the conclusion, especially in handling dept.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Well done Pratyush, This full fairing looks awesome. It can be easily imagined that like Gixxer SF this model could be a second line TVS Sales strategy. Once the first model is being competed by other manufacture, they will launch this model (IMHO)

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Hey

Checked my bike, it is not ABS confirmed with the dealer.... will be taking delivery on 30th Jul as the registration process will start now. White colour looks good and for me its an upgrade from Pulsar 150 to RTR 200, would love to ride it. My daily commuting is around 70kms up and down with half city and half highway. I am only afraid of the niggles in the bike. It should not be more as i dont like to go everytime to SVC as it will also hamper my work. Also my pulsar never gave me that scares, small niggles are there but should be manageable. Other thing this bike has no kick, so will be totally depended on starter which might be a pain in cold start. Lets hope that this doesn't happen.
Waiting to lay my hands on new bike.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Hi guys. New to Xbhp here, just joined. I own an Apache RTR 200 matte grey since 18 June. I completed the run in period in 680 Kms and 2 weeks. The bike has been amazing since day one, and coming from an Apache 180 I think it's a proper upgrade while not costing too much. I'm getting a mileage of around 28 kmpl with regular ripping( I weigh 92 kgs so that's also to blame perhaps, haha )

A couple of things bothering me. Few days back the bike had battery acid leaked from the side panel, when I showed it to the SVC they said it's normal for a new bike to be overfilled, nothing to worry about.
I had got into an accident 2 days ago, some drunk guy on a TVS XL moped drifted on to side from the left, I rammed into him. No one's hurt, my bike took all the damage
Have to change the front number plate, fender/mudguard and the headlight unit. There's also a scratch on the Teflon coating, right side tank extension near the RTR logo. Any way I can remove/reduce it? TVS SVC said they have to change the whole front unit and will cost around 2.5k, spares should arrive by Monday, 25th.

Looking forward to your thoughts and inputs, and any queries and questions as well.
Cheers to Apache!