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  • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

    Originally posted by Zapps View Post
    I faced similar issue in stop-go traffic with my P220, the with Ashwin's advice, what I did was I removed the tension spring that is present on the clutch rod near engine where the clutch cable ends. It made my life simple and as Ashwin has been using it this way for 4 years, its a trusted and tested mod.
    I don't think this mod will be possible in the Apache 200. It has no spring outside the clutch case (the only spring(s) are inside the clutch case). [I might've misunderstood you here.]

    Do share a pic for others to be sure of what exactly you're telling about.
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    • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

      Originally posted by Harry J View Post
      Hello Apachians.

      Within a month or two, I’ll be joining the club of happy owners RTR200 2.0.

      After a lot of confusion in my mind and discussion in “What bike” topic here, I have decided to book APACHE RTR200 2.0 ABS in White-Red colour.

      As owners, please let me know what are the things I must take care while booking and also while taking delivery (any special PDI for RTR?)

      What are the tax, insurance amount and cost breakup details ?
      What should I understand about their charges and how to check if there is any hidden charges by the dealer.
      I live in Madurai TN.
      I Own the white RTR 200 ABS. Please choose, white if you're really into it, and you can spend a lot of time and care for your bike. Because the white really wears off very quickly. It's been only just 1 month for me, already my bike looks like an old one. few times I dropped the bike, while taking the 'U turn', unable to handle the weight of the bike. The scratches are almost like 'On your face' kind of thing. Also the Teflon coating doesn't really work on white color. So choose carefully.

      I paid the 1.40 lacks for the bike including 5 years own damage protection insurance (which doesn't come in the usual On-Road price).
      If you don't want that, bike 1.34L on-road, anything more than that ask your dealer about the price breakup.

      For this amount you have two options, Fz 25 (of course without any ABS or so) and you have fully loaded RTR 200.

      All the best! The bike is really awesome, just make sure you're familiar with the bike fully, before opening that throttle wide open!!

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      Originally posted by ayrus View Post
      If you mean the shifting from 1st to neutral is difficult while the bike is stationary,
      1) If the engine not running, push the bike slightly front or back and you must be able to get the neutral
      2) If the engine is running, release the clutch lever shightly and try to shift to neutral.

      Also get the clutch freeplay correct – about 1cm. The SVC usually keeps zero play or even worse, negative play (clutch does not engage fully at times).
      Thanks for the reply!
      I'll adjust the clutch freeplay and will see the results.

      I don't understand this part
      Originally posted by ayrus View Post
      For the neutral/false neutral when shifting from 1 to 2, push the gear lever all the way to the top as quick as possible.

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      • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

        Originally posted by 0001vashishtha View Post
        Whenever you lube your chain then spin the rear wheel and all the excessive lube would drop there... And the rims can be cleaned with a dry cloth. you may clean it with soapwater
        Thanx 0001vashishtha for response. Although what you said is the issue i am facing and dont want any lube on rear wheel rim. Also the rim cant be cleaned with dry cloth as the lube is sticky and even the soap water wont be of much help.

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        • TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

          [QUOTE=Arunachalam;1367761]I Own the white RTR 200 ABS. Please choose, white if you're really into it, and you can spend a lot of time and care for your bike. Because the white really wears off very quickly. It's been only just 1 month for me, already my bike looks like an old one. few times I dropped the bike, while taking the 'U turn', unable to handle the weight of the bike. The scratches are almost like 'On your face' kind of thing. Also the Teflon coating doesn't really work on white color. So choose carefully.

          I paid the 1.40 lacks for the bike including 5 years own damage protection insurance (which doesn't come in the usual On-Road price).
          If you don't want that, bike 1.34L on-road, anything more than that ask your dealer about the price breakup.

          For this amount you have two options, Fz 25 (of course without any ABS or so) and you have fully loaded RTR 200.

          All the best! The bike is really awesome, just make sure you're familiar with the bike fully, before opening that throttle wide open!!

          Thanks for your response and your valuable suggestion brother.

          Actually, I heard that Black is the toughest to maintain (any bike, Not RTR alone).

          So I thought of getting a white one.

          Also white is readily available near my place and I can get it at the earliest.

          Only 1 unit of Carb ABS (white-red) is available and when I asked the dealer about stockyard quantity, he said only one unit is available and also this bike is not fast moving in my locality. So, the bike will be delivered only on order basis.

          But it will be better if there are few more number of the same variant, so that I can check all the bikes thoroughly and choose one.

          Scratches will be more visible in black than white right?

          At lastI think whatever Colour I choose, the results will be based on my maintenance part. What you say ?

          I’ll be cleaning my bike on every Sundays.
          When Life Throws You A Curve..
          Lean Into It..










          Apache RTR 200 4V 2.0 ABS (2019-Forever)


          Honda Activa 3G (2015-Current)


          Apache RTR 160 Dual Disc (2013-2015)

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          • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

            Originally posted by Adwait.R View Post
            Thanx 0001vashishtha for response. Although what you said is the issue i am facing and dont want any lube on rear wheel rim. Also the rim cant be cleaned with dry cloth as the lube is sticky and even the soap water wont be of much help.
            Use kerosene/ diesel on the rims to clean them followed by liquid detergent to remove residual diesel. After that apply sheeba liquid polish on the rims to preserve the paint finish on the rims.

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            • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

              [QUOTE=Harry J;1367767]
              Originally posted by Arunachalam View Post
              I Own the white RTR 200 ABS. Please choose, white if you're really into it, and you can spend a lot of time and care for your bike. Because the white really wears off very quickly. It's been only just 1 month for me, already my bike looks like an old one. few times I dropped the bike, while taking the 'U turn', unable to handle the weight of the bike. The scratches are almost like 'On your face' kind of thing. Also the Teflon coating doesn't really work on white color. So choose carefully.

              I paid the 1.40 lacks for the bike including 5 years own damage protection insurance (which doesn't come in the usual On-Road price).
              If you don't want that, bike 1.34L on-road, anything more than that ask your dealer about the price breakup.

              For this amount you have two options, Fz 25 (of course without any ABS or so) and you have fully loaded RTR 200.

              All the best! The bike is really awesome, just make sure you're familiar with the bike fully, before opening that throttle wide open!!

              Thanks for your response and your valuable suggestion brother.

              Actually, I heard that Black is the toughest to maintain (any bike, Not RTR alone).

              So I thought of getting a white one.

              Also white is readily available near my place and I can get it at the earliest.

              Only 1 unit of Carb ABS (white-red) is available and when I asked the dealer about stockyard quantity, he said only one unit is available and also this bike is not fast moving in my locality. So, the bike will be delivered only on order basis.

              But it will be better if there are few more number of the same variant, so that I can check all the bikes thoroughly and choose one.

              Scratches will be more visible in black than white right?

              At lastI think whatever Colour I choose, the results will be based on my maintenance part. What you say ?

              I’ll be cleaning my bike on every Sundays.
              In my experience black is relatively easier to maintain, two out of 4 of my previous bikes were black. others were yellow and blue.
              This is the first time I own a white one. The brighter the color, tougher it is to maintain. Blue and black were easier to maintain based on my experience. I had my troubles with the yellow, now I troubling with white.

              White will obviously look better in crowded traffic. But it needs some good maintenance. Even though I had my share of experience with the bikes, This one is really tough to balance the weight. It always tend to fall down while turning, I'm 5'8 and 85 KGs, still I find it it tough to balance this bike on dead slow turning. While on the move you don't feel the weight, but while you had to move it on your feet or had to turn it on your feet, this is really heavy. Because of this, I've put this bike down 3 times already in road while taking U turns and made myself feel ashamed. I'm with the bikes for almost 15 years, but this is the first time falling down.

              Due to all these, I had to buy the woodland boots, which increased my height by 2 inches. After which I feel very comfortable balancing the weight.

              So be prepared for the fall downs and scratches till you get yourself fully familiar with the bike.

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              • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                [QUOTE=Arunachalam;1367770]
                Originally posted by Harry J View Post

                In my experience black is relatively easier to maintain, two out of 4 of my previous bikes were black. others were yellow and blue.
                This is the first time I own a white one. The brighter the color, tougher it is to maintain. Blue and black were easier to maintain based on my experience. I had my troubles with the yellow, now I troubling with white.

                White will obviously look better in crowded traffic. But it needs some good maintenance. Even though I had my share of experience with the bikes, This one is really tough to balance the weight. It always tend to fall down while turning, I'm 5'8 and 85 KGs, still I find it it tough to balance this bike on dead slow turning. While on the move you don't feel the weight, but while you had to move it on your feet or had to turn it on your feet, this is really heavy. Because of this, I've put this bike down 3 times already in road while taking U turns and made myself feel ashamed. I'm with the bikes for almost 15 years, but this is the first time falling down.

                Due to all these, I had to buy the woodland boots, which increased my height by 2 inches. After which I feel very comfortable balancing the weight.

                So be prepared for the fall downs and scratches till you get yourself fully familiar with the bike.
                Thanks for your inputs brother.

                I’ll re-consider my choice of color. However I have ridden this bike for some 100 kms within city limits and so I hope I can balance the machine.
                When Life Throws You A Curve..
                Lean Into It..










                Apache RTR 200 4V 2.0 ABS (2019-Forever)


                Honda Activa 3G (2015-Current)


                Apache RTR 160 Dual Disc (2013-2015)

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                • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                  Originally posted by Harry J View Post
                  White will obviously look better in crowded traffic. But it needs some good maintenance. Even though I had my share of experience with the bikes, This one is really tough to balance the weight. It always tend to fall down while turning, I'm 5'8 and 85 KGs, still I find it it tough to balance this bike on dead slow turning. While on the move you don't feel the weight, but while you had to move it on your feet or had to turn it on your feet, this is really heavy. Because of this, I've put this bike down 3 times already in road while taking U turns and made myself feel ashamed. I'm with the bikes for almost 15 years, but this is the first time falling down.

                  Due to all these, I had to buy the woodland boots, which increased my height by 2 inches. After which I feel very comfortable balancing the weight.

                  So be prepared for the fall downs and scratches till you get yourself fully familiar with the bike.
                  I faced similar problems with bikes in my initial years. Now, I am in no way doubting your skill and preference with the bike but I'd like to attempt to help someone out if thats needed.

                  What helped me is practicing(off busy hours) in parking lots and in my native, where traffic is minimal. Please wear riding gloves and a proper fitting helmet while practicing, and ofcourse while on the road. I am merely saying this to cultivate a habbit of riding in appropriate gear. Its a confidence booster and you might actually not wish to ride without gear once youre used to it. Its like insurance.

                  Back to the point, U-truns can be overwhelming as we've got to manage the weight of the bike and the clutch/throttle. Having a pillion doesnt make matters any better.

                  Let me come to the throttle part. Its important to have control on the throttle. Practice with varying amounts and find the right balance. You will want to stay off loose gravel and practice preferably on tarmac.

                  Also, while practicing you may use the rear brakes for stability, please remember to only slightly grace the brake with your foot. Dont stamp on it or progressively increase the pressure on the lever. You'll notice drastic differences in stability and smootheness when you use rear brakes but again find the right balance and dont overdo the rear brake. You might end up performing weird stunts. I am too learning to get a grip of my rear brake.

                  I would also suggest keeping the feet off the ground when turning, that way you ensure that you're learning the right technique. On slower speeds try to manage the weight with the clutch or throttle inputs or counterweight. Nobody rides bikes with their feet on the ground.

                  For theoretical knowledge, you could research some more about countersteering and counterweight. Youtube is a great place to start.

                  This will not only help you turn better but also increase confidence in crammed areas or in slow moving traffic.

                  Ride safe.

                  Cheers!
                  AS.

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                  • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                    Is anyone using 14-45 sprocket setup?
                    If yes then, is there any improvement in top end or does the bike still struggle post 120 kmph?




                    Also im going to convert a old gen RTR 160 to 200 4v
                    I actually was running a 250cc setup previously, got a different engine to convert to 200 4v for daily usage and touring.

                    About the 250 cc setup
                    It had a big bore kit
                    Head from 200 4v
                    6 plate clutch assy.
                    Flat slide carb
                    Free flow exhaust

                    Btw can somebody share a pic of 200's clutch assy?
                    Last edited by Rahul.g; 02-26-2019, 02:15 AM.

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                    • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                      Today I find a very unique survival kit to keep on your bike from my colleague.
                      It consists of :
                      power bank / basic phone - always kept in bike switched off, for emergency purpose
                      potassium permanganate - doubles as fire igniter when combined with glycerin and used for antiseptic when mixed with any water.
                      glycerin - used for igniting fire and can be used as dry skin care.
                      knife - all purpose
                      scissor - all purpose
                      steel wire (very very thin) - to tie down anything

                      Hope this is useful to you guys, I'm gonna prepare this kit.

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                      • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                        Originally posted by Arunachalam View Post
                        Today I find a very unique survival kit to keep on your bike from my colleague.
                        It consists of :
                        power bank / basic phone - always kept in bike switched off, for emergency purpose
                        potassium permanganate - doubles as fire igniter when combined with glycerin and used for antiseptic when mixed with any water.
                        glycerin - used for igniting fire and can be used as dry skin care.
                        knife - all purpose
                        scissor - all purpose
                        steel wire (very very thin) - to tie down anything

                        Hope this is useful to you guys, I'm gonna prepare this kit.
                        It’s good to have some useful things.

                        It might help someone in some rare cases.

                        But keeping a knife won’t invite unnecessary troubles if police checks the bike??
                        When Life Throws You A Curve..
                        Lean Into It..










                        Apache RTR 200 4V 2.0 ABS (2019-Forever)


                        Honda Activa 3G (2015-Current)


                        Apache RTR 160 Dual Disc (2013-2015)

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                        • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                          Originally posted by Harry J View Post
                          It’s good to have some useful things.

                          It might help someone in some rare cases.

                          But keeping a knife won’t invite unnecessary troubles if police checks the bike??
                          Absolutely not, you can always keep one for your self defense, Not an intimidating one like in the movies.
                          Just a compact sized one that you can fold and fit in your pocket.
                          I always carry a fold-able small knife with myself, never once I was asked intriguing questions by police.

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                          • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                            Hello RTRians,

                            Finally, I have booked TVS APACHE RTR 200 4V 2.0 ABS (white)

                            Total cost was ₹1,24,947 excluding Insurance.
                            I’m taking insurance outside.
                            Will be registered by next week.
                            When Life Throws You A Curve..
                            Lean Into It..










                            Apache RTR 200 4V 2.0 ABS (2019-Forever)


                            Honda Activa 3G (2015-Current)


                            Apache RTR 160 Dual Disc (2013-2015)

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                            • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by Harry J View Post
                              Hello RTRians,

                              Finally, I have booked TVS APACHE RTR 200 4V 2.0 ABS (white)

                              Total cost was ₹1,24,947 excluding Insurance.
                              I’m taking insurance outside.
                              Will be registered by next week.
                              Welcome to the family!

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                              • Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by Arunachalam View Post
                                Welcome to the family!
                                Thank you brother.

                                Will post the pics once got the bike.
                                When Life Throws You A Curve..
                                Lean Into It..










                                Apache RTR 200 4V 2.0 ABS (2019-Forever)


                                Honda Activa 3G (2015-Current)


                                Apache RTR 160 Dual Disc (2013-2015)

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