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**pritish** · 01-13-2010, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

like??????????????

who on earth gave you this theory???

1. "
above are direct quotes from BIKEINDIA.so i guess it says it all.

Longer wheelbase aids to highspeed stability.

2. the Vibes are less compared to the RTR 160.
the damper at the end of handle bars are modified to bigger ones..refer the manual.

3. i got friends with rtr 160..and i find the gear shifts are not as smooth
as in RTR 180.

who on earth gave you this theory???
U dont have to fiddle with carb screws to adjust the air/fuel mixture and idle speed for the years to come...EFI simply works better with this respect as its controlled by sensors and computers all the time...so i guess u never exprience a drop of performance in the sensors and the computers ! ! !...its reliable too..considering ur ECU is trobule free and have no trobules in mapping and all ! ! !

thats what i meant by stating that the performance of a FI will be more cosistent than a Carburrated one ! ! !

NO OFFENCE MEANT TO ANY 160/FI or any 180 riders....coz i myself have booked a 180 over a FI ! ! !

**pritish** · 01-13-2010, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by Grafix View Post

@pritish : Congratz , Whch colour?

PEARL WHITE...i never tght of getting that colour...as my first love was yellow. . .but fell in love wid the white after watching it over and over again ! ! !

**pritish** · 01-13-2010, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by nox2505 View Post

+++1 for that

@pritish;
irrespective of cosmetic changes, mechanical changes on 180 other than RTR 160 series are:
1. heavier handlebar weights
2. high LPM oil pump
3. 57.2 stroke crank,
4. 62.5 dia bore and piston
5. larger exhaust
6. BS-29 carb and larger dia minifold
7. 46/13 sprocketing
8. longer swing arm
9. stiffer rear suspension (i doubt abt this)
10. smaller rear wheel
11. wider rear tyre
12. Nominal change in front fork (geometry is same. its replaceable with RTR160)

@all: please add if i have forgotten anything, and correct it i am wrong.

i guess u missed longer wheelbase ! ! !

**Grafix** · 01-13-2010, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by pritish View Post

PEARL WHITE...i never tght of getting that colour...as my first love was yellow. . .but fell in love wid the white after watching it over and over again ! ! !

Thtz Nice & Welcome to the TRIBE(as chicane says)

**Harmeet** · 01-14-2010, 12:15 AM

Hi guys, could you guys tell me how much kms does rtr 180 return per litre of feul. I dont bleve the showroom guys and those silly magazines. So need to know from some realtime users.
Im lookin for a new bike and rtr is one of them on the list. So kinda gathering info about all.

**srini** · 01-14-2010, 12:21 AM

^^^
my RTR returns a mileage of arnd 42-44kmpl with just over 500kms on the odo and first service done...

**johnjojo08** · 01-14-2010, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by pritish View Post

i guess u missed longer wheelbase ! ! !

8. longer swing arm

means longer wheelbase..

**theguitarfreak** · 01-14-2010, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by TanmoyS View Post

Shaw Distributor from Lansdown. The SVC is good. Speak to Souravda there to look after ur probs.

Its SHAH Distributors. I also bought my bike from there. And as long as the SVC goes, if you are talking about the one at Beckbagan Road then i have to say its really not upto standards. Can you imagine the supervisor of a TVS service center not knowing what is a mineral oil, semi synthetic oil and synthetic oil?

I really expected much more from TVS. They should be looking at providing top quality mechanics and service supervisors. And why not when BAJAJ is providing their probiking showroom with top of the line mechanics and engineers?

**pritish** · 01-14-2010, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by johnjojo08 View Post

8. longer swing arm

means longer wheelbase..

Yeah u r rite..i overlooked ...

**pritish** · 01-14-2010, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by pritish View Post

rtr 160 FI is a mere 1000 bucks more that 180....then why shouldnot i go for that..considering the fact that wid the FI i will be having the same performance say after 2-3 years from now as it is 2day..which will be unlike the RTR 180..as its a carburrated one...so there got 2 be a decline in perfomance after say 2-3 years...

i know 160 Fi is having the same drawbacks as of a 160 refresh...ike its vibration and slight instability at bumpy roads..and not 2 forget the performance of the rear discs...

but considering the retainment of the performance for the following years 2 come..and the mileage...why shouldnt one go for 160 FI ??...

Guys plzz give me ur feedback regarding this...and do correct me if i am wrong at any point...

**chicane1879** · 01-14-2010, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Harmeet View Post

Hi guys, could you guys tell me how much kms does rtr 180 return per litre of feul. I dont bleve the showroom guys and those silly magazines. So need to know from some realtime users.
Im lookin for a new bike and rtr is one of them on the list. So kinda gathering info about all.

If you are a ripper type of rider then the bike will return between 35-40km/ltr. Keeping things under 6k rpm will give mileage close to 45km/ltr, may be even higher.

**rennycornelius** · 01-14-2010, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by pritish View Post

1. "The bike’s wheelbase was increased by 26mm as compared to the RTR 160. The longer wheelbase has lent a very stable and planted character to the 180."....the RTR "180 feels very stable on bumpy and uneven surfaces as well"
above are direct quotes from BIKEINDIA.so i guess it says it all.

the RTR 160 was never unstable at high speed, and that swingarm was never a glitch, just now cuz the 180's swingarm is increased by just few mm's it gives you just a feeling, it's more of a pshycological than it's for real that the 180 now is like a leech in highway's compared to the turtle thing in the 160, but in the real world drive doth bike side by side and you got to be expert to feel that mm's on the highway, that too by a little margin, this mm thing is given importance in the magazine and mark my words if TVS would have never declared that they increased the RTR180's swingarm by a few mm's nobody in the common public would have noticed that, forget the added stabilty crap.

Originally posted by pritish View Post

the Vibes are less compared to the RTR 160.
the damper at the end of handle bars are modified to bigger ones..refer the manual.

the handle bar weights alone canot bring down the vibes level, if it would have TVS would have fitted the RTR180's weight to 160

vibes in RTR g\family are cuz of the ultra short stroke engine and to the overall characteristics of the engine and the vibration level of RTR160, RTR160 FI and RTR180 are just the same, you need to spend more time driving the all three to get my point.

Originally posted by pritish View Post

3. i got friends with rtr 160..and i find the gear shifts are not as smooth
as in RTR 180.

clutch play, upshifting and downshifting at correct RPM, selection of gear, matching the revs or blipping the throttle while downshifting affects a lot on the smoothness while shifting, the RTR family has a notchy gearbox which gets better smooth while applying the matching the revs technique.

Originally posted by pritish View Post

U dont have to fiddle with carb screws to adjust the air/fuel mixture and idle speed for the years to come...EFI simply works better with this respect as its controlled by sensors and computers all the time...so i guess u never exprience a drop of performance in the sensors and the computers ! ! !...its reliable too..considering ur ECU is trobule free and have no trobules in mapping and all ! ! !

thats what i meant by stating that the performance of a FI will be more cosistent than a Carburrated one ! ! !

in your earlier post you said performance comes down over a period of time..
buddy weather it's a carbed bike or the fuel injected one, performance remains just the same if the engine is really well maintained and taken good care of, it's not like the fuel injected bike will be performing 100
% after 2 years and carbed will be at 50%....

both have their advantage and disadvantage, in FI your tuning remains the same as the manufacturer desired and to get it changed, you get a heavy dent in your pocket by shelling out good sum of money for the re-mapped ECU, while in carbed all you need are bigger jets a proper tuning and you can outgun the FI sibling by less than 1/4 of the cost.

Originally posted by nox2505 View Post

irrespective of cosmetic changes, mechanical changes on 180 other than RTR 160 series are:
1. heavier handlebar weights
2. high LPM oil pump
3. 57.2 stroke crank,
4. 62.5 dia bore and piston
5. larger exhaust
6. BS-29 carb and larger dia minifold
7. 46/13 sprocketing
8. longer swing arm
9. stiffer rear suspension (i doubt abt this)
10. smaller rear wheel
11. wider rear tyre
12. Nominal change in front fork (geometry is same. its replaceable with RTR160)

@all: please add if i have forgotten anything, and correct it i am wrong.

no buddy, all the right points are covered

**rahulvasai** · 01-14-2010, 10:45 AM

NGK Spark plug

Guys,

I installed iridium plug to my RTR.
Not made a huge difference but certainly improvement is there.

Now bike feels much smoother and doesn't fell stressed when ripped hard.

may be you guys should try.

**pritish** · 01-14-2010, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

the RTR 160 was never unstable at high speed, and that swingarm was never a glitch, just now cuz the 180's swingarm is increased by just few mm's it gives you just a feeling, it's more of a pshycological than it's for real that the 180 now is like a leech in highway's compared to the turtle thing in the 160, but in the real world drive doth bike side by side and you got to be expert to feel that mm's on the highway, that too by a little margin, this mm thing is given importance in the magazine and mark my words if TVS would have never declared that they increased the RTR180's swingarm by a few mm's nobody in the common public would have noticed that, forget the added stabilty crap.

the handle bar weights alone canot bring down the vibes level, if it would have TVS would have fitted the RTR180's weight to 160

vibes in RTR g\family are cuz of the ultra short stroke engine and to the overall characteristics of the engine and the vibration level of RTR160, RTR160 FI and RTR180 are just the same, you need to spend more time driving the all three to get my point.

clutch play, upshifting and downshifting at correct RPM, selection of gear, matching the revs or blipping the throttle while downshifting affects a lot on the smoothness while shifting, the RTR family has a notchy gearbox which gets better smooth while applying the matching the revs technique.

in your earlier post you said performance comes down over a period of time..
buddy weather it's a carbed bike or the fuel injected one, performance remains just the same if the engine is really well maintained and taken good care of, it's not like the fuel injected bike will be performing 100
% after 2 years and carbed will be at 50%....

both have their advantage and disadvantage, in FI your tuning remains the same as the manufacturer desired and to get it changed, you get a heavy dent in your pocket by shelling out good sum of money for the re-mapped ECU, while in carbed all you need are bigger jets a proper tuning and you can outgun the FI sibling by less than 1/4 of the cost.

no buddy, all the right points are covered

All right renny, Thanks a lot 4 ur feedback...
One more thing i noticed during my test ride of 180 at both the times..is the squeaking sound from the rear probably the rear disc...as if the brake pads are rubbing against the disc even if the rear brakes are not applied...i felt like the bike is not pulling the way it should have at the intial gears say 1st and 2nd but it was fine at the top gears...

after the ride i put the bike on the main stand and rotated the rear wheel so as to check if it was getting jammed..but hardly could notice any jamming....and in these threads also i have read about that SQUAKING sound from the rear disc...what is it newazzz???...

**rennycornelius** · 01-14-2010, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by pritish View Post

All right renny, Thanks a lot 4 ur feedback...
One more thing i noticed during my test ride of 180 at both the times..is the squeaking sound from the rear probably the rear disc...as if the brake pads are rubbing against the disc even if the rear brakes are not applied...i felt like the bike is not pulling the way it should have at the intial gears say 1st and 2nd but it was fine at the top gears...

after the ride i put the bike on the main stand and rotated the rear wheel so as to check if it was getting jammed..but hardly could notice any jamming....and in these threads also i have read about that SQUAKING sound from the rear disc...what is it newazzz???...

every disc brake equipped bike has this issue, the wheel will never rotate freely as the pads always rubs against the disc, dirt, debris are the major cause of this too...

to get away with the squeeking noice, put the bike on the mains and throw a high pressure water in the pads while rotating the wheel, this will clear all the dirt, grime and debris and will eliminate the noice.

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