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  • #12361
    Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
    @Antz.bin & Prateek, sirji- Is there any way to use Mobile GPS to track speed ? if possible ... and again I'm saying 138 is no 138 for sure but again I wonder with full throttle if two vehicle moving at same speed that's actually means they are travelling at same speed may be not 138 but 100 or 120 whatever its

    And if its 14 kp/h error then what if someone goes to 140kp/h tomorrow ? And we rode almost 4-5km on that Runway constantly at full throttle then only got that 138 mark... (yes with error dont know if its +ve or -ve)

    Sorry for back to back posts...
    Yes, you can use mobile GPS to calculate speed with much more accuracy. The error is not fixed in terms of a number, its more like a percentage. eg. P220 (2008 onwards) has an error of +7.3%. So 150kmph on the speedo is (150/1.073 =) 139.8kmph true speed and 100kmph on speedo is (100/1.073 =) 93.2kmph true speed.
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    • #12362
      Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
      Yes, you can use mobile GPS to calculate speed with much more accuracy. The error is not fixed in terms of a number, its more like a percentage. eg. P220 (2008 onwards) has an error of +7.3%. So 150kmph on the speedo is (150/1.073 =) 139.8kmph true speed and 100kmph on speedo is
      (100/1.073 =) 93.2kmph true speed.
      Sure gonna do that now & then will post results... any guidance howto do that ? I guess using Navigation option need details link will also do ...
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      • #12363
        Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
        Sure gonna do that now & then will post results... any guidance howto do that ? I guess using Navigation option need details link will also do ...
        Start a GPS based tracking software and hand over the phone to your pillion. Tell the pillion to keep an eye on the speedo and remember the highest speed he/she sees while you ride normally (no high speed runs required).

        When you stop, check GPS tracker data for the highest speed reached on the GPS log.

        Error % = [(Speedo read / GPS Speed) - 1]* 100

        Repeat process for more accuracy.
        Advice is a form of nostalgia.
        Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

        Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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        • #12364
          Once i checked with the Videcon phone GPS and found that my bike has costant 10% of speedo error.
          On speedo i was on 100 kmph and on GPS its 90 kmph only. I reached 110 on bike speedo and on GPS it was 100.

          Videcon Phone GPS is quite accurate.

          This Speedo Error also leads to wrong measurement of actual mileage we are getting.
          That is, when we have travelled 50 kms on road we have actually travelled 45 kms.
          So in my case if by going Speedo measurement my bike is giving 40 kmpl, its actually giving me only 36 kmpl

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          • #12365
            Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

            Today I learnt a lesson. The hard way. Just because you have ABS does not mean everybody has it. Met with an accident. Jammed breaks. Came to standstill but the Scooty idiot rammed into me. Slight leg injury. Front suspension is bent. Head light glass is broken. Feeling very bad. Guys do you have any idea how much that would cost to fix on insurance?

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            Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

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            • #12366
              Originally posted by flyingJian View Post
              Once i checked with the Videcon phone GPS and found that my bike has costant 10% of speedo error.
              On speedo i was on 100 kmph and on GPS its 90 kmph only. I reached 110 on bike speedo and on GPS it was 100.

              Videcon Phone GPS is quite accurate.

              This Speedo Error also leads to wrong measurement of actual mileage we are getting.
              That is, when we have travelled 50 kms on road we have actually travelled 45 kms.
              So in my case if by going Speedo measurement my bike is giving 40 kmpl, its actually giving me only 36 kmpl
              Wrong info, Road distance calculated in kilometers aren't by speed guns & I doubt if Speed indicator & distance calculator are dependent ....


              Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
              Today I learnt a lesson. The hard way. Just because you have ABS does not mean everybody has it. Met with an accident. Jammed breaks. Came to standstill but the Scooty idiot rammed into me. Slight leg injury. Front suspension is bent. Head light glass is broken. Feeling very bad. Guys do you have any idea how much that would cost to fix on insurance?

              Sent from my WT19i
              That's bad


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              • #12367
                @madhav
                feeling really bad 4 u...
                even i also met with a minor accident and got a smaal scratch on the left side of heatlight and on the plastic part near the seat.

                Hey i discovered a hole in mah silencer right below the heat guard. Is that same in all apaches..
                please let me now if i could also claim insurance.

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                • #12368
                  Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                  Wrong info, Road distance calculated in kilometers aren't by speed guns & I doubt if Speed indicator & distance calculator are dependent ....

                  Lets say your bike speedo has a 10% calibration error and you are going at speedo indicated speed of 50 kmph(but actually you are going at 45 kmph). How much distance you will cover in an hour if you ride constantly at the same speed?

                  Brother just think over it.

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                  • #12369
                    Originally posted by Devesh View Post

                    Hey i discovered a hole in mah silencer right below the heat guard. Is that same in all apaches..
                    please let me now if i could also claim insurance.

                    Iits normal....


                    Well cross checked with Speedo & GPS ...

                    Speedometer 21kp/h
                    GPS 21kp/h

                    Speedometer 52kp/h
                    GPS 50kp/h

                    Speedometer 74kp/h
                    GPS 71kp/h ....
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                    • #12370
                      Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                      Guys, tru4 is a semi synth!??

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                      Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                      Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                      Break-in tension? Read this.

                      Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                      • #12371
                        Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                        Start a GPS based tracking software and hand over the phone to your pillion. Tell the pillion to keep an eye on the speedo and remember the highest speed he/she sees while you ride normally (no high speed runs required).

                        When you stop, check GPS tracker data for the highest speed reached on the GPS log.

                        Error % = [(Speedo read / GPS Speed) - 1]* 100

                        Repeat process for more accuracy.
                        With pillion who can dream to do 138 kmph on RTR 180. No offense though
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                        • #12372
                          Originally posted by rocker View Post
                          Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                          Start a GPS based tracking software and hand over the phone to your pillion. Tell the pillion to keep an eye on the speedo and remember the highest speed he/she sees while you ride normally (no high speed runs required).

                          When you stop, check GPS tracker data for the highest speed reached on the GPS log.

                          Error % = [(Speedo read / GPS Speed) - 1]* 100

                          Repeat process for more accuracy.
                          With pillion who can dream to do 138 kmph on RTR 180. No offense though
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                          • #12373
                            Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                            Guys, tru4 is a semi synth!??

                            Sent from my WT19i
                            yes. it is semi synthetic.

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                            • #12374
                              Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                              Originally posted by sid712 View Post
                              yes. it is semi synthetic.
                              Aren't we supposed to do mineral oil for the first 5000km.

                              Sent from my WT19i
                              Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                              Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                              Break-in tension? Read this.

                              Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                              • #12375
                                Today GPS Was awesome

                                Top speed 83 while my RTR 85kp/h ...

                                waiting for Google Navigation Results, don't know how to use it, guess Google NAV will be more accurate
                                Pride & Prejudice: Ladakh Ride,

                                Ride To Raajmachi - Highway, Off Roading, Tent fire & Dhamaal

                                Madness in Rajasthan - Travelogue                                www.facebook.com/shahbaz008

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