Bad quality fuel is the only thing which can screw off the RTR.
And another are owners, who switched from 2stroke bike to RTR. Yesterday, i saw the RTR Fi of which engine was opened, as the owner added 2T oil in petrol.

@Shivank

I couldnt stop laughing!! Let him believe what he means. You can do one thing.Ask him to race till 60km/hr against you.You use the 'traditional' way and let him do his own way. I bet he will be hiding his face once he sees the result!!

Yeah, you need to pay for the oil. Try the Castrol Shock Absorber Oil. It's Good!!

never rely on RTR's timer...
it never shows the correct figures, if you want the real timings use the GPS...

to get the best timings never ever have a flying atart in 2 gear, you'll put un nessasary load in the engine....

dump the clutch at 5000 in first pull all way to 10K, shift cluthless to second and pull till you see 60 on the dash will yield the best 0-60 timings.

No buddy, Dumping at 5000 is very low, you'll have to dump it atleast at 8000 and make sure it never falls below that and there you go you have rocket fast 0-60kmph..

Well..the problem is that he's not in my city and we are friends only through orkut..And that's why it's hard to convince him!
I am thinking to ask him to join Xbhp and share his gyaan among all of us!

Well..i don't actually,right from the day you said it in the thread before!
I don't know how could i be so stupid to believe in this utter nonsense!


Won't that throw me out of the saddle..The front will definitely pop like hell at 8000rpm!

And here's the link where you can see his and mine stupidity-

orkut -

I have the same doubt. You would need to put tremendous weight on the handlebar and in front to make sure your bike doesnt pop up too much and you lose control.

8000 RPM seems too much but i have never tried a wheelie nor do i wish to at present for various reasons.
Gathering some basic tips about such things from all over.

No thats not too much, believe me I have tried the same many many times.. You just have to master the art of releasing the clutch, dont revv till 8k and release the clutch all of a sudden,
you need to get the feel when the clutch starts engaging, revv the engine a bit and release 20% of clutch, nothing happens, release some more and hold it there (Remember, be very gradual).. continue this process and when u have realeased some 60% of the clutch lever the clutch starts engaging and the bike kinda shivers.. THIS is the POINT!! hold it there, now revv till 8k bend a bit forward (its best if you almost lie down on the tank) and release the clutch slowly (Say to 80% of clutch) The engine exhibits a crazy pull without popping wheelie... When you have reached some 15kmph dump the whole clutch...
The clutch is the key!! master it!! Release it at 8k all of a sudden and pop a wheelie or release it at the same 8k and go drag!!! its all in your hands...
All the best!!

what you're doin is nothin but wasting the petrol and slipping the clutch,(which is not good for it)...

when you are leaving the clutch at 15% (in your theory), you're slipping it at very high RPM, thereby making it go FRIED,(even for a fraction of a sec, but you're making it real hot) and fried clutch wont be doin any good for the acceleration timings you're trying to achieve in there

by this % theory of yours, you again bring down the RPM when you release the clutch in steps and when you're at the 3/4 of it you again pull it to 8000 thereby wasting time,nothing else..

this gives you an impression of launching at 8000, but in real world you launched it at 4500-5000+-500 when you actually realeased the clutch at 15%,the RPM gradually DROPS, but at the same time you rev it again releasing the clutch,this time also not fully, the RPM drops again, then you again REV it....

in this whole process you slip the clutch just to make sure the tacho stays at 8000RPM wasting time and life of clutch both, but in real sense, you never launced your bike at 8000RPM...

but for thr whole time by slipping the clutch you saw 8000RPM and you believed that you launched your bike at it....


you cannot and i mean cannot launch a bike perfectly at 8000RPM dead.

period.

Ha ha, Thanks buddy for telling me that i'm wasting petrol at 8k's because while dragging that pays the least importance to me and who told you that dragging is good for clutch plates??? Ask any good dragger how many kms his clutchplates last?? Your bike generates peak power at 8k, not at 5k...
And Mr... going by your theory nobody will be able to launch without slipping the clutch, Do you think that you are launching at 5k?? at the start the speed will be 0 and at engine speeds of 5k your bike cannot do 0kmph.. Would you care to explain how do you launch at 5k without slipping the clutch??
Better still ask Killer or Joel at what rpm they launch their machines while dragging, you'll get the answer..

Hi guys...
After reading all the reviews ...and posts and asking the opinion of all the experts for buying the bike....I have decided to buy the RTR180...
I was really impressed with the bike...its awsome...nothing like I ever rode before.....
I had been to the test drive twice....and really it was amazing....never felt like this before on a bike....It is really a BEAST....
I will be buying it this week....
Please guide me on the points that I should check for when I am taking the delivery of the bike....
Anybody from hyderabad who has bought the bike recently??
Please let me know....

And also I came to know one thing that the bike costs 3K more than bangalore....where as all other company bikes are costlier in Bangalore than Hyd....except the TVS....
Not yet decided on the color....might go for GREY or BLACK....(I like more sober colors)
Any suggestions are welcome.......

I Will up load the pic's on sat or sun ....

going by ur theory the SBK's should be launched at 13000RPM.....


0-60 is achieved from the dead start, nobody gives you a rolling start for that....

there's only one method in the world which allows launching without slipping the clutch and that's "LAUNCH CONTROL", and it's comes only in the cars...(FERRARI,PORCHE,ASTON,LAMBO to name a few)

i never told launching at 5000, is a standard set for launching a bike at that, i told this after my riding,dragging, exp on bikes that spans years, the 5000 thing will call for slippage but for that particular moment only when the clutch will be left at that precise moment cuz it's impossible for a clutch to hold at 5000RPM without even slipping, but not much as ur method where you gas the bike again and again while it moves forward to stay in the power band.

but again everyone has his own techniques, if it even demolishes the bike while launching, gives you 1 sec time or 15 secs, it's just in the hands of the one sitting on the saddle, and that varies from hands to hands, from saddles to saddles.


PS:
to other owners, avoid dragging on regular basis,harms many parts cuz in how many ways the indian manufactures promote their bikes as sports bike, but in real sense they are simply,not.

Renny, road_ripper is right, a rider should launch the bike above the rpm where it generates max power, for this the rider will need to slip the clutch a little and manage the launch. Well everyone cant do that, some master it after multiple fried clutch plates .

There was a nice thread regarding launching a bike at high rpm's by oldfox, just search for it, joel to has added posts to it too.

sir that was my technique of launching without harming the clutch much....

Oh Ok. I also believe RTR has one of the strongest clutch plates among the bikes available in India, it can take a lot of abuse.