I hope TVS does something about the refinement of the bike in the next release. I know its the character of the bike and some people liike it but lets face it, everyone would love to have his Apache vibe free at least till 7k rpm rather than the one which we have now. There are lots of examples of oversquare and revving engines on the market by big manufacturers worldwide which are vibe free throughout the rev range.

Hi Guys!!! Whenevr I start my bike(self start), sometimes cold and sometimes hot, I get this Loud grinding noise.. Reading through the previous posts, is this a problem with the One-Way clutch?? Or what??? Something which is replaced under warranty?? BTW, my bike has done 10.5k on the odo...

Yes it is. Get it replaced under warranty ASAP!!

Thanks for the info... Shall run to the SCV today... BTW, for my understanding, Why does this happen?? And if i dont do anything abt this now, waht happens next?? What happens to the clutch?

What they need to do is to add counter balancer shaft, that's it.

Let them add whatever they want, as long as we customers get what we want we will be happy.

Forget them changing the whole engine architecture to remove those vibes and harshness.
They'll bore/stroke the same engine to 200 or 250 too.

But they have to do something abou the vibrations sooner or later, especially when the other manufacturers are upping the refinement standards.

can one install a security system(like black cat) on the RTR?has anyone installed them?is it useful? how much does it cost?

guitar freak is right tvs has to do something about the refinement! apache is a funny bike.according to my experience:-

0-45 -no vibes butter smooth
45-50- slight vibes
50-70- vibes( can manage not too bad but long rides at this speed can be painful)
70-100 - better smooth(can give unicorn a run for its money)
apache's main rival pulsar stays smooth till about 80 after that it starts vibrating and the vibes are worser than apache(not p220, p150 & p180 UG4)

havent tried on pillion, is it worse?

@renny whats this-counter balancer shaft?
if apache is a short stroke motor what about ZMA,FZ.P180,R!%??

Mate my baby's covered 1001 Kms (just check it now)
I am truly happy wid the performane and the attention i am getting...my friends now LOVE the bike so much after riding it that some of them have even stated they might buy this baby...
ok coming back to the tappets....
guys can u please advice whether the loose tappets has any adverse effects on the engine? If living wid the tappets sound ok? Do i get the sound rectified after the second service?
I am a bit concerned coz my baby accelerates and pulls like a dream and i dont wanna get the performance fcked coz of the tappet sound
Wat do i do? should i tell the service mechanic to not set it too tight coz it may "rob the performance"? or shall i leave it to them for decide? afterall they are professional mechanics hired by TVS (no??

dude u i am a hardcore TVS fan and i just love the apache (i own a 2007 apache 150 and a 2010 RTR 180) my 150 had no problems watsoever...and apart frm the tappet thing my RTR has no complaints so all in all i am a happy customer of TVS motor co.

Apaches are special machines, they are no the roadside breed...they are special and TVS people put a lot of heart in making their bikes thats y i have so much respect for them...but if they could take care of the tappets i would love and respect them more

See it's like this. You cannot be a fan of a company. Just the products they put out. And the work they put into those products. TVS has been leading the industry in racing and products developed through racing R&D. But what happens if one day they start making crap bikes? Will you still be a fan? I'll bet no. Take yamaha for example. The RX and the RD. Huge fanbase. But i think that dwindled down to almost nothing when they started putting out crap like the libero. And only picked up when they came out with the R-15 and FZ. Even the gladiator didn't do much for the company's fanbase. A certain amount of emotion is good with automobiles, in fact necessary to keep the passion, but beyond that it should be mostly technical. The fiero for example was on of the best 4-strokes ever built in india. With only 4 gears it still had very decent performance. And a super smooth, bulletproof engine. A friend has a 1st gen fiero, he bought it when it first came out, 98-99 i think. Never opened the engine, clutch, nothing. The only shortcoming in the fiero was the horrible chassis. He's still riding it. Fill, shut, forget kinda way. The wheels are rusted. and the silencer tip blew and was welded. But you'd never know riding it. Now this dude rode pillion on my rtr. When he got off he was like, 'dude, don't take this the wrong way but i would never put 75k into a bike that a pillion can't keep his foot on the pegs'. He's still riding his fiero

there lies the problem... you have been lucky enough to face just the tappet problem whereas people like me face issues almost every week....both my wheels have had punctures for a total of 7 times by now, my eyes pop out and i suddenly sit erect while riding whenever i see a wet patch at a corner, my hi beam shoots ahead at an angle of about 20degrees to the right whenever i switch it on, my bike still misses in 3-4 rpm range, my tachometer idles at 11.5k rpm because of some problem in its wiring, all my pillions' legs go numb every time i cross 70.....

these aren't major issues (except for the missing problem) but these get into the way of experiencing the feel of riding a perfect bike...and i dont know what the problem is with the TVS svc guys, maybe they dont have a clue aboua anything, maybe they dont have enough equipmetn and spare parts or maybe the are too lazy, but these problems never get permanently fixed...its always some jugaaad and within 1 week everything's back to square 1

so after pumping in Rs. 75k for a bike that's DESIGNED by a team that specialize in making performance racing machines and produced by a parent company which rules the entire south indian 2 wheeler scene, i expect the bike to be durable enough to atleast last 3-4 years without major glitches....and even if there are any, the svc centre guys must be equipped with enough intellectual and spare part ammo to get things rectified. but sadly none of these things happen

i have many times found myself in the svc, waiting for my bike, dreaming about what it would be like if the svc guys were smart enough to get everything rectified

Your friend just said a million dollar thing in there.

Fiero has a good chasis, but the light front ruined the whole thing, it used to wheelie evry now and then, even while coming out of a lean in 2 gear, and if the lean was corrected in 3/4 of the throttle the front used to hop, creating a scary moment.

I second you, being a FAN of a product or a company doesnt mean we should be praising the shortcomings too, what is wrong in a bike and needs to be taken care of must be critisized, so that the company should come up with a solution, but till now TVS has lend a deaf ear in the vibes department of RTR.

hii

Completed 500 kms on RTR and now waiting to give my bike for 1st service.
Which type of engine oil should i use in beginning and of which company, or should i let TVS svc guys fill engine with tvs oil.
And what should be the tyre pressure in front and rear?
According to owners manual tyre pressure should be 25 psi and 32 psi, can i go for 30 psi(front) and 35 psi(rear) or should i follow what manual says.

Vibration is there and it has noticeable amount of vibration when i ride it with pillion, as the pillion can feel it.
There is a weird noise coming out from beneath the tank when i reduce the speed, don't know what is the reason. Engine refinement is poor, but handling is good.

TVS Fiero(2002) sold
YAmaha RX 135(2006)
TVS Apache RTR 180