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  • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
    TCi stands for Transistor Controlled Ignition. Yes the one-way clutch is related to the electric starter. Are you experiencing any noise while applying the starter early morning?
    I don't know its noise or normal sound...but there is no problem in starting.Its start in a touch even in d morning.Problem is when i drive bike around 15-20kms then noise get starting from left side of engine may be where that clutch is residing.Also feel sound while taking pick-up in 1st gear after engine gets heated.Then vibrations start n all that stuff.Smoothness of engine suddenly changes and does slightly "gharrr gharrr"....i feel there is problem in clutch(loss in power is addressable).But after a break of half a day,bike is again butter smooth.Quite strange!!

    I like to share my vibrations graph
    0-4--no
    4-4.45---yes
    5-6---its very smooth(at 5 esp.)--nothing
    6-6.5--increases slightly
    settles at 7 and continues upto 7.45(its quite ridable for long time)
    8-8.45---needles vibrates a lot
    settles at 9 then constant(no vibrations) further
    i never make it above 10k...

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    • Originally posted by amar_r15 View Post
      I don't know its noise or normal sound...but there is no problem in starting.Its start in a touch even in d morning.Problem is when i drive bike around 15-20kms then noise get starting from left side of engine may be where that clutch is residing.Also feel sound while taking pick-up in 1st gear after engine gets heated.Then vibrations start n all that stuff.Smoothness of engine suddenly changes and does slightly "gharrr gharrr"....i feel there is problem in clutch(loss in power is addressable).But after a break of half a day,bike is again butter smooth.Quite strange!!

      I like to share my vibrations graph
      0-4--no
      4-4.45---yes
      5-6---its very smooth(at 5 esp.)--nothing
      6-6.5--increases slightly
      settles at 7 and continues upto 7.45(its quite ridable for long time)
      8-8.45---needles vibrates a lot
      settles at 9 then constant(no vibrations) further
      i never make it above 10k...
      This is how my bike used to be when i bought it. But now the vibes start from 4k and stays all the way. And regarding the one way clutch, have you ever heard loud gunshot like sounds coming when the engine shuts off? If yes then your one way is definitely gone. It does not come always, but at times it does.
      You can only ride better tomorrow if you ride safe today.

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      • and mine vib dyno

        4k start to vibrating till it cross 5 k
        after crosing their is no vib in handelbar till 8k but their some on footpegs and tank.

        top vibration is on @4700rpm
        this shud be added in rtr 180s specifications.

        and why the rpm needle start to shaking above 8k
        it is very difficult to know its 8.5k or 9k and goes constant at 9.5k
        any body can tell me why this happen

        i have seen chicane 0 to 120 video his rpm needle dose not shake even on red line why
        .................................................

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        • Originally posted by harish619 View Post

          1. there was a loud bang and the one way clutch shattered.The bike did not start even with kicker.Had to push the bike about a KM to the SVC guy who asked me to wait two days for the part to arrive...
          Anyway at last got it changed and I don't think the problem is fully solved with new replacement either.

          Whats wrong with the 180??
          why this one way clutch is creating so much probs is mystry to me, the oneway clutch problem is never been reported in the RTR160 thread.

          2. Then there is the engine/Electrics on-off switch...doesnt work properly often..have to push it twice to start.Although small..really annoying..

          You mean the engine kill switch...right?

          3. There are some points in the chassis/frame which have started rusting.I don't know what to do!

          get a can of black paint and paint it, it's normal with RTR.

          4. The carb was not tuned properly at delivery and the mileage was constantly 30 Km/litre.When I asked them to tune it at 400kms,they said its not good to tune carb till at least 1k kms.

          The SC guys deserve a kick in the a$$ for their statement in bolds.


          So at the second free service (at ODO ~1200 KM) they tuned it and then got mileage of 35 km/lit and also with it Hiccup problem..The guy at SVC still doent know what to do...this is most annoying when in city traffic and i feel the has lost some power and i really think the bike has more to offer in mileage terms...

          if u know a good mechanic (read outside the SC) get it tuned by him.

          4. Handlebar locks are hard to activate with the key getting stuck...

          spray of WD40 will make it all right.

          Questions:

          1. Is it Ok to ask for a second replacement of oneway clutch and also a new carb under warranty??

          Just for the hiccup thing, they'll NEVER replace a carb in the warranty, and as they've already replaced your one way clutch, why you want another replacement??

          2. Is there any other solution for the hiccup problem other than replacement??
          ..and please tell me in a way so that i can pass on the method to the SVC guy..

          The slow jet needs to be checked,cleaned along with the needle, the hiccup problem is due to the blockage only,Stand on his head when he cleans your carb otherwise he'll never open it even.

          3.Is it okay to pour lubricating oil in the keyhole..or is there any other way to loosen the lock mechanism ??

          You can pour 5-6 drops of oil in the key hole and all the locks, and it's advisable to do so before the rains if you dont have the can of WD40.
          Answers -BOLDS

          Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
          Yep......but i hit 11.5k after a small slope.....but it helped a lot!

          but the bike hardly makes anypower beyond 10500, i've pulled mine to 10500-10700 in 4...in 2 i have brushed the magic 12000

          Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
          I wonder if we can hit 11krpm in 5th gear(with slope).The 180 should be hitting close to 150km/hr, if that's possible.
          Speedo indicated for sure, but you need one good long downhill slope for that..

          Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
          @Dear Renny, That needle is called as jet needle..
          Got that..
          what about the spring then???

          Originally posted by amar_r15 View Post
          I like to share my vibrations graph
          0-4--no
          4-4.45---yes
          5-6---its very smooth(at 5 esp.)--nothing
          6-6.5--increases slightly
          settles at 7 and continues upto 7.45(its quite ridable for long time)
          8-8.45---needles vibrates a lot
          settles at 9 then constant(no vibrations) further
          i never make it above 10k...
          after 7000 to 9000 the engine is butter smooth, but then the vibes gets transferred to the tacho needle...

          Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
          . And regarding the one way clutch, have you ever heard loud gunshot like sounds coming when the engine shuts off? If yes then your one way is definitely gone. It does not come always, but at times it does.
          There are two types of sound this engine makes right from the FIERO days, one is the tappet shutting off like noice and other is thud noice.


          Originally posted by abhishekch View Post
          i have seen chicane 0 to 120 video his rpm needle dose not shake even on red line why
          Cuz he's one lucky chap in the non dancing needle department....
          The Magician"

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          • Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
            This is how my bike used to be when i bought it. But now the vibes start from 4k and stays all the way. And regarding the one way clutch, have you ever heard loud gunshot like sounds coming when the engine shuts off? If yes then your one way is definitely gone. It does not come always, but at times it does.
            yes i remember by gunshot....many times while take sudden pickup or something like that bike suddenly switch off and that gunshot sound comes....uptill now 8-10 times i guess....i should check out with SVC.

            And i want to add to vibration discussion.....my handle bar doesn't vibrate much.nor d foot pegs..(there r little....used to have it rather)..but the fairing n headlight assembly vibrates at ranges i explained earlier...

            After d replacement of crankshaft....my bike is smoother now....1.5k to 8k straight rip and shift after every 6.5-7 k is really awesome....vrrraaaawwnnnnnnn unn vrraaaaaaunnnnn...

            surely will solve this oneway clutch problem asap...then its all new again...

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            • Originally posted by amar_r15 View Post
              yes i remember by gunshot....many times while take sudden pickup or something like that bike suddenly switch off and that gunshot sound comes....uptill now 8-10 times i guess....i should check out with SVC.

              And i want to add to vibration discussion.....my handle bar doesn't vibrate much.nor d foot pegs..(there r little....used to have it rather)..but the fairing n headlight assembly vibrates at ranges i explained earlier...

              After d replacement of crankshaft....my bike is smoother now....1.5k to 8k straight rip and shift after every 6.5-7 k is really awesome....vrrraaaawwnnnnnnn unn vrraaaaaaunnnnn...

              surely will solve this oneway clutch problem asap...then its all new again...
              You had your crankshaft replaced?
              You can only ride better tomorrow if you ride safe today.

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              • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

                Cuz he's one lucky chap in the non dancing needle department....
                The video was shot with the old speedo console.Yeah it did danced at 8k-9k rpm(though not noticed in the video)

                The new speedo console hasn't got such type of dancing behaviour!!

                Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                You had your crankshaft replaced?
                Yes, He is the first 180 owner out here to have his crankshaft replaced.

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                • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post


                  Got that..
                  what about the spring then???


                  The spring rate is pre calculated. If you want it to open earlier, cut short spring. If you want it to open late, increase spring tension.
                  Cutting will invite better mid range and overall better acceleration on account of efficeiency (roughly 5-8kmpl less), while reverse of that in case of increasing the tension.
                  There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                  • disappointed

                    i had been to a bike trip recently traveling 200 kms in a day.our route was the nice expressway from bangalore-mysore which is an amazing stretch of road where one can test his bike's top performance.

                    but sadly i felt let down when even despite having proper shifts n opening full throttle in the last gear the bike was only able to manage 120 kmph at the max . i have a friend of mine who touches that speed in his a160 itself.

                    and according to the specifications a180 was supposed to touch a atleast 130kmph for the bite that its engine has.

                    guys any pointers on what might be a problem?

                    P.S-the bike was serviced just 2 weeks before before the trip

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                    • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                      The spring rate is pre calculated. If you want it to open earlier, cut short spring. If you want it to open late, increase spring tension.
                      Cutting will invite better mid range and overall better acceleration on account of efficeiency (roughly 5-8kmpl less), while reverse of that in case of increasing the tension.
                      So cutting one ring of the spring might solve the hiccup prob i guess.



                      @jay_apachian:

                      Top speed depends on loads of factors viz, croutched position,back winds,front winds,side winds,slope,bike pulled at each gear,strech of road,full fisted treatment given after taking it to 120-125, cuz it takes almost 1km of stretch to get to its speedo indicated 133-135kmph top speed after 125kmph which it reaches in a jiffy.
                      The Magician"

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                      • Originally posted by jay_apachian View Post
                        i had been to a bike trip recently traveling 200 kms in a day.our route was the nice expressway from bangalore-mysore which is an amazing stretch of road where one can test his bike's top performance.

                        but sadly i felt let down when even despite having proper shifts n opening full throttle in the last gear the bike was only able to manage 120 kmph at the max . i have a friend of mine who touches that speed in his a160 itself.

                        and according to the specifications a180 was supposed to touch a atleast 130kmph for the bite that its engine has.

                        guys any pointers on what might be a problem?

                        P.S-the bike was serviced just 2 weeks before before the trip
                        Yes, even i have faced this problem when the bike was relatively newer i.e when it had 5-6k kms on the odo.On my trip to Berhampur(200kms distance). The bike wasn't going above 125km/hr no matter how hard i tried. May be it was due to prolonged riding the engine was strained and it didnt inched above.And yes, even windy situations can be very demanding for the bike under those conditions.

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                        • ^^^
                          Plus for the top speed the engine requires proper bed in too.
                          The Magician"

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                          • Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                            You had your crankshaft replaced?
                            yup
                            so what do u say...is my one way clutch is faulty?...according to my description.

                            Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                            Yes, He is the first 180 owner out here to have his crankshaft replaced.
                            Thanks to remembering me chicane....but i guess its not a kind of honour to be a first 180 owner to replace crankshaft.....anywayz its great i changed it earlier....and suggest all rtr 180 owners if at all they r feeling weird sounds,vibrations,power-loss,excessive heating.....then he should check with engine parts....i got d culprit as crankshaft....may be u get anything else..

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                            • thanks chicane & nox
                              i checked the steering myself as you both suggested. found nothing outta way. except for very slight rubbing of disks. the steering moves freely from side to side. dunno what is making me feel that the steering is biased towards right side.
                              am not able to enjoy the handling as i would have. unable to throw the bike into corners.
                              also the sc guys say they they cant feel it. prolly they are trying to give it a slip. anyways will have to get it right to suit me. maybe when ill meet you Vinay, we could check this out.
                              another thing is hiccups. mild ones.

                              i don't know what it is with the right side pulling always happening with me? i had the same problem (although compounded with many more) in my previous a180, but i never felt it on any other front-disk brake bike nor on rtrs that I've ridden before!!!

                              P.S. - sorry for replying late, keeping a little busy these days.

                              btw, i completed almost 750+km, planning to change oil at 1500km. that way i will be able to clean the oil sump filter also which i couldn't get done during 1st service.

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                              • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                                So cutting one ring of the spring might solve the hiccup prob i guess.


                                Hiccups of RTR180 get solved by "proper" cleaning of carb and completely tightning mainjet and jet holder.
                                There's lot to it other than saddle....


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