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**chicane1879** · 07-02-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by abhishekch View Post

i am facing hiccups problem it is only generated on low rpm
i like to ride it on speed of 40 to 50km/h or between 3k and 4k rmp for better milage but my bike do missings a lot their. i am pissed of from this hiccups
and i am far away from my next service. i dont want to touched my bike outside cus the warranty issue . i have don 3340km on my bike
will the sc will solve my problem with out taking charge. i also want to change the rear fender with the monsoon ones.

No, it will not create any warranty issues. Show your bike to a good mechanic(if you know somebody) and ask him to open up the carb and clean up the individual jets and tune it properly.That should solve the hiccups.

**bala_racing** · 07-02-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by abhishekch View Post

i am facing hiccups problem it is only generated on low rpm
i like to ride it on speed of 40 to 50km/h or between 3k and 4k rmp for better milage but my bike do missings a lot their. i am pissed of from this hiccups
and i am far away from my next service. i dont want to touched my bike outside cus the warranty issue . i have don 3340km on my bike
will the sc will solve my problem with out taking charge. i also want to change the rear fender with the monsoon ones.

Try to correct the hiccup problem with an "experienced" mechanic. Dont tell the SVC guys that you have done so outside

The rear fender can be assembled by yourself if you have time else take it to those guys.

**rennycornelius** · 07-02-2010, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post

It's the CDI unit which is coined as I-Di by TVS(Inductive Digital Ignition). This unit has the ability to generate 1200 microseconds long sparks of energy(6 times more than a normal CDi) and also fires twice as fast as compared to conventional units which ultimately aids in providing better combustion.

Got it...

thanks.

**ameyashogun** · 07-02-2010, 05:17 PM

hey guys after the heavy rain that day bike is saying no to do the self check! "N" light is off after turn on the key. Kick Start Working but after engine starts then self check and horn is 25% & when you do upper dipper all electronics shuts off sudden not engine then self start again
i read the above post which is posted but then mine is something different that day RPM goes to 12000 RPM and then came to "0" bike was at 63 kmph
shut down i did shut down the engine and ignition again works fine
still not solved the self check Prob What will be the prob
just after 7 months i think bike is not constant performer like R15 or Fi

after cleaning the Carb (3rd service) still no smooth powerband between
2500 to 4000 RPm
What to do
Running on Motul 300V 10w40
I think one of the Best Oil for bikes
may be thats why Yamaha price tag is higher then RTR 180

or may be i am wrong

**rennycornelius** · 07-02-2010, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by ameyashogun View Post

hey guys after the heavy rain that day bike is saying no to do the self check! "N" light is off after turn on the key. Kick Start Working but after engine starts then self check and horn is 25% & when you do upper dipper all electronics shuts off sudden not engine then self start again
i read the above post which is posted but then mine is something different that day RPM goes to 12000 RPM and then came to "0" bike was at 63 kmph
shut down i did shut down the engine and ignition again works fine
still not solved the self check Prob What will be the prob
just after 7 months i think bike is not constant performer like R15 or Fi

after cleaning the Carb (3rd service) still no smooth powerband between
2500 to 4000 RPm
What to do
Running on Motul 300V 10w40
I think one of the Best Oil for bikes
may be thats why Yamaha price tag is higher then RTR 180

or may be i am wrong

Your battries plates are gone for sure, get it checked at the SC.

**abhijeet080808** · 07-02-2010, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post

It's the CDI unit which is coined as I-Di by TVS(Inductive Digital Ignition). This unit has the ability to generate 1200 microseconds long sparks of energy(6 times more than a normal CDi) and also fires twice as fast as compared to conventional units which ultimately aids in providing better combustion.

Inductive ignition is NOT the same as capacitive ignition (CDI).

Inductive ignition gives out longer sparks but of lower peak voltage. Thus a leaner fuel mixture can be easily burnt. But, it is sensitive to voltage.

CDI spark on the other hand has very high voltage (more than what is needed to fire any mixture) but the spark does not last that long. It has some "reserve" voltage and hence can be used over any spark plug conditions and is robust - the plug WILL fire. IDI can not give this guarantee at lower voltages.

AFAIK hence the sprag clutch issue, where a slight voltage drop affect the spark strength and the mixture may not fire when required. (Speculation really!

)

**nox2505** · 07-02-2010, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post

^^Here's mine.But i still couldnt find the idling rpm the reason behind the one-way clutch failures. AFAIK, the TCI unit is the culprit behind the one-way clutch failures.

Read the post thoroughly. Its well explainatory.

**chicane1879** · 07-02-2010, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

. AFAIK hence the sprag clutch issue, where a slight voltage drop affect the spark strength and the mixture may not fire when required.

Exactly.

And you are right, the CDIs and IDIs are completely different units.

Originally posted by nox2505 View Post

Read the post thoroughly. Its well explainatory.

So do you mean to say that setting higher idling rpm will hamper the one-way clutch's operation. If that is the case, then why only RTR 180 faced this problem including the initial batch of P220 DTSi's!!

Bajaj quickly replaced the ignition units with recalibrated ones in order to avoid this issue. The initial batch of P220s did have this issue.

**jasonkumar** · 07-02-2010, 08:16 PM

Hi

hiccups problem is one thing which is not getting fixed not matter what i do , already done with cleaning the carb, both the jets..etc.....

service guys have already replaced
spark plug
spark plug adapter
cdi
their was another coil (i forgot the name )

The issue is still not fixed , they r going to call the senior engineer to the service center to examine my bike on Tuesday ..............

**chicane1879** · 07-02-2010, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by jasonkumar View Post

The issue is still not fixed , they r going to call the senior engineer to the service center to examine my bike on Tuesday ..............

That's a good thing. Hopefully he sorts it out completely.

**jasonkumar** · 07-02-2010, 08:31 PM

Hi

chicane1879

Do u know any experienced mechanic in Bangalore, i stay close by ulsoor......

**chicane1879** · 07-02-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by jasonkumar View Post

chicane1879

Do u know any experienced mechanic in Bangalore, i stay close by ulsoor......

At which svc centre do you service your bike.

If you run out of options, then i would ask you to head straight to ZEN TVS, Bull Temple Road.(I am not sure if it's still operational or not). Contact Joel for more info.

**jasonkumar** · 07-02-2010, 08:41 PM

Hi

Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post

At which svc centre do you service your bike.

If you run out of options, then i would ask you to head straight to ZEN TVS, Bull Temple Road.(I am not sure if it's still operational or not). Contact Joel for more info.

I service my bike in meghadoot service center (ulsoor.. its a authorized service center , svc guys are good they are trying to help me out but they r not able to figure out the solution for the problem ....

**vivekpetrohead** · 07-02-2010, 09:22 PM

Changed my RTR's rear tyre. Went for the 100/90, Ceat Vertigo Sport. Feels better than the stock TVS 110.

**rennycornelius** · 07-02-2010, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

Inductive ignition is NOT the same as capacitive ignition (CDI).

Inductive ignition gives out longer sparks but of lower peak voltage. Thus a leaner fuel mixture can be easily burnt. But, it is sensitive to voltage.

CDI spark on the other hand has very high voltage (more than what is needed to fire any mixture) but the spark does not last that long. It has some "reserve" voltage and hence can be used over any spark plug conditions and is robust - the plug WILL fire. IDI can not give this guarantee at lower voltages.

AFAIK hence the sprag clutch issue, where a slight voltage drop affect the spark strength and the mixture may not fire when required. (Speculation really!

)

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