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  • Originally posted by sibun View Post
    If anyone wants to wax your bike then stop wasting money on imported wax.
    The best and hardest wax is from waxpol and is really good. It is water repellent and doesn't ever let water to stay on bike.
    But a warning-
    When you apply it wet a sponge and squeeze it completely.Then apply it in circular motion. While applying be careful as apply it first half to tank, then before drying buff it. Then apply it to other half. Remember never let it to dry otherwise it will be impossible to remove.
    I use motomax dashboard polish for meter console, indicators and other un painted plastic parts. I never use rubbing polish as my bike always has wax coating and thus never gets dirty.
    Use this as it is the hardest paste wax and you get it for Rs.40 for 50g. There is no chance of fake and it makes a coating which is repellent to water. I will post the photos of my bike which i took on its birthday on 08/07/2012.
    This is the wax coating:-

    Polish i use for meter, indicator and other un finished plastic parts.

    Now here are pictures of my joy after 12 years:-
    This photo i do not know when i took but it was when i was returning from office

    Here is my joy after 12 years. The classic styling that RX100 lovers will like.

    Here is the paint quality. This is the same paint that came from factory 12 years ago. For the first four years the bike was thoroughly abused and only in 2004 that i started polishing the bike.

    See the paint quality after 12 years it gives a run for money to new bikes. The new bikes do not come with same paint quality.

    See the handle bars they are so much wide and also i have fixed pulsar handle bar weights to Original handle. This is the widest handle bar and much lower in height than any hero honda bikes.

    The seat of the bike. Any body who has rode pillion tells that this is the most comfortable bike to ride pillion.See how wide the seat are and the seat after 12 years is still the same shape as it came from factory.

    The front of bike:-

    The side of bike. Joy is the heaviest 100 cc bike at 118 kg kerb weight. You can see how well the bike is packed and the front end is lower than splendor,passion e.t.c so it gives it immense stability.

    Another image of tank. see the gloss of paint even after 12 years. You all yourself tell do any bike comes with same quality paint now which will give the same gloss after 12 years:-

    Some of the amazing facts of this bikes:-
    All the external parts like mudgaurd,tank,side panels,meter, mirrors,seat.silencer e.t.c that you see in the picture are same that came from factory. Only the rear shock absorbers are changed. The accelerator cable is the same that came from factory and is more free than new cables.The clutch and brake levers are same as from factory. The rims is also same from factory. In a nut shell the engine is overhauled two times rest nothing has been touched.The wheel bearings are also the same from factory. Even the backlight and indicators are same that came from factory. The wiring is same.
    Now i ask you a question:-
    Many are fighting here my bike has more quality. Do you think any bike has more better quality than this? Even after 12 years and 3.1 lac km this bike still gives showroom bikes a run for money in looks department.
    Hello, I am very impressed with your bike maintanance and caring, I have a 2004 model Cd cdawn marron color which is same in look with headlight, wiring, cables, tail light, but the back tyres are 2.75inch wide instead of 3.00 of yours, 2.75 is not so much gripy or comfortable, and also the meter console has no fuel gauge ,I have equiped the bike with side luggae vanity box so now the equation is more of a unstable side, So i will be changing almost new like back tyres(12,500 KMs total bike ran> this odo might be funny for so less riding) to 3.00 inch, and by the way how much do the handlebars vibrationreducing weight cost you , I will also try to put it, by the way which engine oil you use I use hero honda's.
    I will post my bike's photo soon.
    OK ,bye for now

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    • Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
      @Pinaki ji
      If you have time then clean the chain by removing it once a year at-least.(apart from regular lubing and cleaning)
      BTW,How do you get kerosene ? Its not available freely here in AP.

      HERO looks better than Hero,in particular 'e' doesn't look good to me.
      Whats with name,quality is all what we want.

      This is my method to clean the chain,is it OK ?

      First Loosen axle nut.
      Loosen the chain adjuster bolts .
      Kick the tyre from back.
      Now the chain should be very loose.
      Remove both the upper,lower and sprocket covers.
      Remove the chain master link by using flat nose pliers.
      (There is a small trick to remove and install it)

      Dip it in kerosene/diesel ,pressure wash it,dry it with compressed air and sock it in 90 gear oil immediately to prevent rusting.
      Your's is perfect .
      I seldom clean it since it's covered and my regular use of EP90 oil doesn't let it get very dirty . SAE90/EP90 gear oil used as chain lube is self-cleaning . It flings off the chain at speed and takes all the dirt with it too , try it . Dirt mainly accumulated whenever I have used grease or a heavier oil(140) . I think I have cleaned this chain-set just twice in 10k kms . That too with kerosene and toothbrush and rags right on the bike . But I do drip some oil on it every weekends or before long trips to my village . Never un-mounted the chain - just unscrew two #10 nuts and remove bottom cover only , brush on the oil with toothbursh(always kept ready inside the oil bottle),close it . Baas, 5 minutes job . You can call me lazy bummer or whatever - but I ain't spending any more effort on a 500 Rs part . I feel it is more important to lube it regularly(weekly) than to service it very good once and forever. I've seen the the bullet guys take out and clean their chains and lube it in molten grease/wax in pans .. .
      Kerosene is freely and cheaply available in west-bengal either subsidised(from ration shops if you have card) or from open shops (non-subsidised and dyed blue in colour) . Same elsewhere in India too I think - mitti ka tel . Look around .

      Originally posted by paul.1911 View Post
      question


      Few years ago, I found a rubber cap where there is a foam inside. I get to the ASC to get a new one. I showed them a sample but they said (ye sab nahi milta h). So I created myself but don't know where it has fall gone....

      What is that hole used for? Is there small foam filter is necessary?
      There is indeed a rubber cap on this vent hole . It has piece of shaped foam inside it and the rubber cap is held-on to the tube end with a wire-circlip grip (same as the fuel lines on tank and carb) . The free end is pinched into a duckbill shape. This hole is there to allow excess oil and splashed-in water etc to safely drain/drip out , and the cap allows that . But it prevents water ingress from outside - in a way it's a valve . I have dismantled and cleaned this tiny part recently . I could not help my admiration for the amount of thought that has gone into the design of every small parts on the Splendor like this air box . You'll notice that the airbox is also having an o-ring seal for the cover .

      You can rejuvenate difficult to obtain ,old o-rings by first cleaning it with warm soap-water and then drying it and keeping it immersed in motor-oil (the one you call mobil) for a few days . Take out , wipe off and install .. it'll last a few years more if intact(not broken) . Usually I will also lightly grease even a new o-ring before installation , lasts longer .
      Last edited by Pinaki; 08-29-2012, 02:03 AM.

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      • Originally posted by paul.1911 View Post
        Today I setup Halonix H4 12V 60W/55W bulb.
        Here are some pics
        But i'm not satisfied i want more
        i wanna try 24v 75W as it will take less amp 3.1

        First one is Low Beam and other two are High Beam!
        hey hello,
        I have also cd dawn old steel mudguard one, so want to bring brightness to the very low power headlight so what are the equipments reuired to get this type of lighting done and also store in Jamshedpur, As I also live here Jamshedpur Sonari. by the way which year bike you use

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        • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
          There is indeed a rubber cap on this vent hole . It has piece of shaped foam inside it
          What if it is not in its place? any side effect?

          Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
          You can rejuvenate difficult to obtain ,old o-rings by first cleaning it with warm soap-water and then drying it and keeping it immersed in motor-oil
          I tried make it hot boiled in water hoping it may retain its shape but nothing happens.

          Originally posted by Abhishek101 View Post
          hey hello,
          I have also cd dawn old steel mudguard one, so want to bring brightness to the very low power headlight so what are the equipments reuired to get this type of lighting done and also store in Jamshedpur, As I also live here Jamshedpur Sonari. by the way which year bike you use
          U can get little brightness up by changing lights to led and removing the wire to the back light will increase your brightness. Also u can switch to philips premium H4 bulb has more brightness. You cant get higher brightness and no one can do this....there is no shop in jsr who can do this.
          I've 2003 model.
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          • Originally posted by Abhishek101 View Post
            hey hello,
            I have also cd dawn old steel mudguard one, so want to bring brightness to the very low power headlight so what are the equipments reuired to get this type of lighting done and also store in Jamshedpur, As I also live here Jamshedpur Sonari. by the way which year bike you use
            Best would be if you can replace the entire headlight assembly with current CD-Dawn's MF Headlamp assembly including it's 35/35watts HS1 Halonix bulb . The current CD-Dawn's headlamp is quite good . Buy the OE set . Cost is reasonable . You'll get it at the HeroHonda authorised parts dealer for Bengal - Bansal Motors , Kolkata at Wellington Square near Jyoti Cinema hall .

            Originally posted by paul.1911 View Post
            What if it is not in its place? any side effect?
            Water/debris can enter the air-box by this route though the chance is very small , unless you ride in knee deep flooded road . A short rubber tube of snugly fitting size stuffed with a piece of foam(sponge) on the end would suffice I think .
            However if the water level rises above this drain hole , then only the original cap design provided by HeroHonda would prevent water flooding into the air box .


            I tried make it hot boiled in water hoping it may retain its shape but nothing happens. Keeping in motor oil will swell the rubber and make it supple in a few days time .
            Last edited by Pinaki; 08-29-2012, 04:05 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
              Water/debris can enter the air-box by this route though the chance is very small , unless you ride in knee deep flooded road . A short rubber tube of snugly fitting size stuffed with a piece of foam(sponge) on the end would suffice I think .
              I've created by my own before but dont know where it has fall down. the wire-circlip was broken due to junk...
              Will make it again.
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              • Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                .. Remove the chain master link by using flat nose pliers.
                (There is a small trick to remove and install it) ...
                Btw , what's that trick ? I've no idea how to undo that chain lock correctly , may need that someday .

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                • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                  Btw , what's that trick ? I've no idea how to undo that chain lock correctly , may need that someday .
                  Can't describe it in words,I will post a picture which is self explanatory.

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                  • Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                    @Pinaki ji
                    If you have time then clean the chain by removing it once a year at-least.(apart from regular lubing and cleaning)
                    BTW,How do you get kerosene ? Its not available freely here in AP.

                    HERO looks better than Hero,in particular 'e' doesn't look good to me.
                    Whats with name,quality is all what we want.
                    Yes, quality is what matters and we know hero is the best in quality and service.After separation from honda hero has increased the quality of both bikes and the spare parts. You will be surprised to know after the may 2012 the OE bore kit are of USHA make. Many parts have been changed to better quality. Also the regional engineers and staff visit each workshop twice a month to do inspection. If you send a mail then it is immediately dealt with.
                    See the extreme thread. Our sarbonoxly send a mail and see the special treatment he got. So "what's in name a rose will smell as sweet if called by other name".


                    This is my method to clean the chain,is it OK ?

                    First Loosen axle nut.
                    Loosen the chain adjuster bolts .
                    Kick the tyre from back.
                    Now the chain should be very loose.

                    These methods are not required because after cleaning the chain becomes slightly loose as the the dirts in rollers are cleared so more play is there. So the above is not required.
                    Remove both the upper,lower and sprocket covers.
                    Remove the chain master link by using flat nose pliers.
                    (There is a small trick to remove and install it)
                    Also open the front sprocket and clean it in kerosene and clean the engine casing behind the front sprocket. Wait for my DIY which should be up by next week.
                    Dip it in kerosene/diesel ,pressure wash it,dry it with compressed air and sock it in 90 gear oil immediately to prevent rusting.
                    Replies in bold.
                    Originally posted by paul.1911 View Post
                    the O-ring 27x2 (9130102800) which I bought for this was greater in diameter



                    This is the old O-ring

                    it's not original

                    The O-ring 18x3 (91307035000S) which i bought before from ASC was correct in diameter but it was not thicker & fuel was leaking...so for the temporarily purpose I used a non-original O-ring, and within four days see its condition



                    so because I got frustrated and there was no o-ring available in the ASC, I cut that O-ring and joined with fevi kwik
                    Its right there where near piece.

                    and believe me, you may be thinking that joint may become hardened but it's not, it's really working. I used a sealant on that area.
                    The i idea got this from my father, when he was not getting a O-ring for his old car fuel pump...so he created like that and it worked.

                    Now the
                    Results
                    guys
                    The good news is my air screw is now working after I replaced the old O-ring here is the picture

                    it is so small..... but looking bigger in the picture
                    I had in my first reply told you to change the air screw and o-ring but you said you cleaned the carb 500 km back and so i thought you had inspected the air screw. The o-ring is very crucial to the tuning. I had told you to directly look for o-ring but you didn't listen to me and wasted a lot of time in seeing fault in other things.

                    question


                    Few years ago, I found a rubber cap where there is a foam inside. I get to the ASC to get a new one. I showed them a sample but they said (ye sab nahi milta h). So I created myself but don't know where it has fall gone....

                    What is that hole used for? Is there small foam filter is necessary?
                    See the reply in bold just after photo of air screw o-ring.
                    Both the o-ring and the rubber cap and clamp, all are available. If you want i can courier it to you.
                    Originally posted by Abhishek101 View Post
                    Hello, I am very impressed with your bike maintanance and caring, I have a 2004 model Cd cdawn marron color which is same in look with headlight, wiring, cables, tail light, but the back tyres are 2.75inch wide instead of 3.00 of yours, 2.75 is not so much gripy or comfortable, and also the meter console has no fuel gauge ,I have equiped the bike with side luggae vanity box so now the equation is more of a unstable side, So i will be changing almost new like back tyres(12,500 KMs total bike ran> this odo might be funny for so less riding) to 3.00 inch, and by the way how much do the handlebars vibrationreducing weight cost you , I will also try to put it, by the way which engine oil you use I use hero honda's.
                    I will post my bike's photo soon.
                    OK ,bye for now
                    You can change the back tyre to 3.00-18 without any problem. But adding a side luggage carrier will never dis-balance the bike. Look for other things like improperly seated tyre, or chain adjuster not adjusted equal in both sides.
                    The handle bar weights are from pulsar.
                    Each weight cost Rs.70.
                    Two allen bolt each cost RS.10
                    Two square 10 no. bolt Rs.4 each.
                    Welding the bolt to handle weights cost Rs.20.
                    Also you have to make hole in the factory grips to fit the weights.
                    And regarding your running, my 4 months running is more than your total running.
                    And regarding the first model CD dawn, i know it very well because our tenant had it and i have ridden it a lot.
                    While it looks same as JOY it has some difference:-
                    1. Lighter in weight than joy
                    2. Front shock absorber is like splendor and longer than joy
                    3. The front mud guard is different
                    4. The quality is different as else how will you see the price difference of almost Rs.10,000. Joy materials were of higher quality and CD dawn was launched to eat into boxer market which it did successfully.Still CD dawn had greater quality than competition. As you know hero honda never compromises on quality but still joy is best quality from hero and this has been confirmed by my mechanic and showroom. But sadly it didn't find acceptance in market.
                    So naturally i find all other bikes to be a shade lower in material quality. Even my new extreme i feel is lower in quality than my joy.
                    5. Joy has multi focal headlight and back light while CD dawn has plain reflector.
                    6. Cd dawn has much better light output than JOY.
                    7. CDI is different and magnet is also different.
                    8. Cd dawn has side handle lock but joy has ignition handle lock.
                    9. The meter console is different
                    10. CD dawn feels free to REV than joy because of different CDI and lighter magnet.
                    11. The front tyre of CD dawn is 2.75-18 while joy has a factory fitted 2.50-18 and i have not changed the size.
                    12. CD acceleration is slightly higher than joy because of weight advantage and also change in CDI.
                    Post a photo of your CD dawn and i will guide you how to retain showroom finish.
                    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                    • Originally posted by sibun View Post
                      I had in my first reply told you to change the air screw and o-ring but you said you cleaned the carb 500 km back and so i thought you had inspected the air screw. The o-ring is very crucial to the tuning. I had told you to directly look for o-ring but you didn't listen to me and wasted a lot of time in seeing fault in other things.
                      No man i didn't wasted my time seeing fault in other things,
                      u guys told me before adjusting air filter & Carburettor should be cleaned, so I said it is cleaned 500 km back.
                      I was agreed to change it because it's very cheap. You guys told me to check your timing. I respect you so I was doing what you're saying.


                      Anyway, i feel sorry if i irritated you. that was my mistake i apologize

                      Originally posted by sibun View Post
                      Both the o-ring and the rubber cap and clamp, all are available. If you want i can courier it to you.
                      Yes man i want two float bowl o-ring (if its not Rs.800), two o-ring 27x2 (9130102800), carburettor host pipe clamp, and that rubber cap please
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                      • Originally posted by paul.1911 View Post
                        No man i didn't wasted my time seeing fault in other things,
                        u guys told me before adjusting air filter & Carburettor should be cleaned, so I said it is cleaned 500 km back.
                        I was agreed to change it because it's very cheap. You guys told me to check your timing. I respect you so I was doing what you're saying.


                        Anyway, i feel sorry if i irritated you. that was my mistake i apologize


                        Yes man i want two float bowl o-ring (if its not Rs.800), two o-ring 27x2 (9130102800), carburettor host pipe clamp, and that rubber cap please
                        I didn't get irritated. It was because i was sure your o-ring was faulty but you didn't listen to me. Simply if you has opened the air screw you can easily know the fault.
                        See my post no. 1089.
                        Ok, today night i will see the part and let you know. I will also ask the float bowl o-ring and let you know.
                        Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                        • How is my new Champion plug looking in 500 odd kms ?




                          Looks awful to me !




                          Originally posted by sibun View Post
                          ... 11. The front tyre of CD dawn is 2.75-18 while joy has a factory fitted 2.50-18 and i have not changed the size.
                          12. CD acceleration is slightly higher than joy because of weight advantage and also change in CDI..
                          Me too running MRF Nylorib 2.5x18 at front on my Splendor+ , replaced tyre to downsize as soon as I bought the bike since I was comfy with the lighter handling of this size for a long time from my Yamaha RX to Crux . Hopefully this won't cause any long term problem with the front suspension etc of the Splendor .
                          New CD Dawn has really good and nippy acceleration and torque , better than my Splendor+ at the low end , haven't tested above 50kmph though . Better electrical and lighting too because coil redesign . I just rode my friends new one the other day . It's lighter and sprinty, handling and ride feel is different , didn't like turning/handling over the Splendor's .
                          Last edited by Pinaki; 08-30-2012, 01:22 AM.

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                          • @Pinaki Ji
                            The spark-plug looks to have nice light chocolate color.
                            Did you lubricate the threads with oil ?(First few threads have hard black carbon deposit)

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                            • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                              How is my new Champion plug looking in 500 odd kms ?




                              Looks awful to me !





                              Me too running MRF Nylorib 2.5x18 at front on my Splendor+ , replaced tyre to downsize as soon as I bought the bike since I was comfy with the lighter handling of this size for a long time from my Yamaha RX to Crux . Hopefully this won't cause any long term problem with the front suspension etc of the Splendor .
                              New CD Dawn has really good and nippy acceleration and torque , better than my Splendor+ at the low end , haven't tested above 50kmph though . Better electrical and lighting too because coil redesign . I just rode my friends new one the other day . It's lighter and sprinty, handling and ride feel is different , didn't like turning/handling over the Splendor's .
                              Your spark plug is of correct color. However a little leaner will help in sharpening the throttle response and prevent carbon deposit on head. However it is best tuning if you are riding for long distance daily like me. Else if riding in city a slight leaner will help.
                              I was not talking about the new CD dawn. I was talking of the old CD dawn which had the same engine as ours.
                              The new model CD dawn shares the same engine as splendor pro, passion pro, CD deluxe(new model), splendor nxg. Those engines are different and their fueling and firing are also different.
                              The new series engine is more free and has more pick up because:-
                              1. The maximum torque is 8.04 NM @ 4500 rpm and 7.8 bhp @ 7500 rpm. The y2k engines in splendor/passion/ Cd dawn(old model) have 7.8 Nm @ 5000 rpm and 7.8 bhp @ 8000 rpm. Joy has 7.8 bhp @ 8000 rpm and 8 Nm @ 5000 rpm. So they making torque and power at lower rpm makes them have nifty acceleration.
                              2. They have thinner chains which decreases the mass of final drive and thus friction and thus feel free to REV.
                              3. They have DC CDI so their firing is uniform unlike our AC CDI.
                              4. Our rocker arms are of sliding types on camshaft but the new models have roller bearings on the rocker arm.
                              5. The carburettor and air filter are different so has better tuning and hence more better performance.
                              6. Now all have 44 rear teeth sprocket and the increased torque of 8.04 Nm increases their pulling power.
                              Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                              • @sibun
                                if my engine is as same type as splendor/passion then why it doesnt go beyond 80 kmph :-( having 42 teeth sproket & 3.00-18 tyre. Never ever gone, previously even it was 80 kmph on 2.75-18. In fact now it sud go beyond 80 coz of more diameter of a new tyre.
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