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  • [QUOTE=toolkit;767933]My guess is that it has both. Since injection and ignition are two separate things. Injection refers to the insertion of the air-fuel mixture into the cylinder, which is controlled electronically with a microprocessor and a fuel pump, while ignition refers to the firing of the spark plug at (near) the Top Dead Center of the piston to produce the power stroke in a four stroke engine. Hope this clarifies the basic concept. My friend i didn't ask for the function of the two... I already know that. I only asked which of the two types of Fuel Injection comes on the 2010 ninja 250 r and which of the two types of ignition comes on the Ninja 2010 as opposed to the models post 2010. Hope that clarifies my actual question. I asked it merely out of curiosity and the bike is not the sorrier for it! Just needed to know! Regarding the functions of the two, the internet is full of answers and the bike has both fuel injection and a separate ignition system.

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    • Originally posted by hellbreaker46 View Post
      I made a paddock stand for my Ninja by cutting the R15 stand from the centre and getting a pipe welded in between, so as to increase its width to accomodate the wide swingarm of the Ninja. It looks neat and the whole thing cost me rs1570.
      Dude .. can you post a pic of the paddock stand. I own both, the Ninja and R15 and have been thinking to have one stand which can work for both. Will have to figure out some way to extend the width.

      Keeping two paddock stands does not make sense.
      (as if keeping two bikes does )
      sigpicI feel like Clark Kent on the streets riding the Pulsar, On the track.. with my Ninja.. I feel like Superman.

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      • I've got a quiry xbhpians, is the blue colour Ninja officially available currently? Because few minutes back i saw a Blue colour ninja at Agartala. I was suddenly awstruck. Ninja....thats also blue??? And it cant be a paint job because no one here will do a costly paintjob on his new Ninja (no painter here is capable of that also). For info only 4 Ninjas are here at Agartala, 2 green, 1 black and now 1 blue.

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        • EFI (Electronic fuel injection) DFI (Digital fuel ignition) ?

          Originally posted by toolkit View Post
          My guess is that it has both. Since injection and ignition are two separate things. Injection refers to the insertion of the air-fuel mixture into the cylinder, which is controlled electronically with a microprocessor and a fuel pump, while ignition refers to the firing of the spark plug at (near) the Top Dead Center of the piston to produce the power stroke in a four stroke engine. Hope this clarifies the basic concept.
          Originally posted by jeofpereira View Post
          My friend i didn't ask for the function of the two... I already know that. I only asked which of the two types of Fuel Injection comes on the 2010 ninja 250 r and which of the two types of ignition comes on the Ninja 2010 as opposed to the models post 2010. Hope that clarifies my actual question. I asked it merely out of curiosity and the bike is not the sorrier for it! Just needed to know! Regarding the functions of the two, the internet is full of answers and the bike has both fuel injection and a separate ignition system.
          Sorry I misunderstood..
          In your post you mentioned EFI standing for Electronic fuel injection and DFI standing for digital fuel ignition. I suppose you meant Digital fuel injection(that is what the manual says it stands for on pg 17). And since you were summoning mech engineers i thought you wanted to know the difference between the two concepts.
          Chill

          most likely DFI and EFI is the same thing. However, TCBI with digital advance ignition may be worth exploring more as I feel kawasaki may have made some changes to the ignition mapping of the newer models to keep up with the ever tightening emission norms across the world. In any case, it is highly unlikely to have changed the power output though.

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          • My ninja saved me today.

            I'm sure all Bangaloreans know the Koramangala - Indiranagar connecting Inner Ring road. I was headed back from Koramangala today and I was approaching the Domulur flyover. I was doing 60 kmph, and someone carrying a board in his hand (which increased the width of the object I had to avoid hitting) ran straight in front of me. The person appeared to be in a state of trance and he somehow believed he could cross the road.

            Obviously, it was my mistake as well to be going that fast on a road which rows of stores on both sides (recipe for people running around on streets), but no one expected that.

            Another mistake on my behalf was to brake hard and immediately hit the rear brake. My rear wheel locked up (ABS would have helped) and the tyre squealed. By that time, I had at least avoided hitting that person or injuring him. It was the fall that I had to avoid now.

            I don't understand what made me, but I immediately let go of the brakes. I was more concerned about the bike than myself. And immediately, this fantastic machine, behaved as if nothing had happened. It immediately got back in control, and I was safe. My speed was still around 40 kmph, which is considerable speed for a fall.

            I realized today that if you spend on machines like the Ninja 250R, it's 100% worth the money. I'm quite sure that had it been any other bike, I'd have had a serious fall. It reminded me of a very similar story a friend of mine told me and he had a Pulsar. He told me that once a Pulsar begins to fishtail, it is nearly impossible to control it.

            I feel lucky. Lessons learnt:
            • Never trust pedestrians. Areas with buildings on either side are pedestrian zones. Not many people in India cross roads on Zebra crossings and ultimately, it is the drivers/riders who have to look out for the pedestrians' and their own safety.
            • Practice braking. Never stomp the rear pedal.


            I'm going to make sure I do all that.

            I've vowed to myself today that I'm not going to ride above 40 in these areas. I'll open the taps only when I'm 100% sure the streets are clear of people.

            Just wanted to share this with everyone. Please ride safe. Kudos to the Ninja. It's an incredible machine.
            Last edited by asheshambasta; 02-06-2012, 01:38 AM.
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            • Originally posted by toolkit View Post
              Sorry I misunderstood..
              In your post you mentioned EFI standing for Electronic fuel injection and DFI standing for digital fuel ignition. I suppose you meant Digital fuel injection(that is what the manual says it stands for on pg 17). And since you were summoning mech engineers i thought you wanted to know the difference between the two concepts.
              Chill

              most likely DFI and EFI is the same thing. However, TCBI with digital advance ignition may be worth exploring more as I feel kawasaki may have made some changes to the ignition mapping of the newer models to keep up with the ever tightening emission norms across the world. In any case, it is highly unlikely to have changed the power output though.
              Yeah that was a typo! My auto correction/ prediction from the X7 can be a bit active as opposed to passive at times and i hardly use the preview option before posting. Gonna start doing that though. Way too many typos. Efi and Dfi are not the same thing. I've already done some googling as such on that. I just wanted to know which systems came installed on the 2010 model. It does not matter to me whether it improves performance or not. When i'm ready for slightly better performance, i'll get a Power commander 5 and some new maps, map switch and auto tune possibly also the touch screen add-on display for controlling the PCV.

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              • Originally posted by asheshambasta View Post
                I'm sure all Bangaloreans know the Koramangala - Indiranagar connecting Inner Ring road. I was headed back from Koramangala today and I was approaching the Domulur flyover. I was doing 60 kmph, and someone carrying a board in his hand (which increased the width of the object I had to avoid hitting) ran straight in front of me. The person appeared to be in a state of trance and he somehow believed he could cross the road.

                Obviously, it was my mistake as well to be going that fast on a road which rows of stores on both sides (recipe for people running around on streets), but no one expected that.

                Another mistake on my behalf was to brake hard and immediately hit the rear brake. My rear wheel locked up (ABS would have helped) and the tyre squealed. By that time, I had at least avoided hitting that person or injuring him. It was the fall that I had to avoid now.

                I don't understand what made me, but I immediately let go of the brakes. I was more concerned about the bike than myself. And immediately, this fantastic machine, behaved as if nothing had happened. It immediately got back in control, and I was safe. My speed was still around 40 kmph, which is considerable speed for a fall.

                I realized today that if you spend on machines like the Ninja 250R, it's 100% worth the money. I'm quite sure that had it been any other bike, I'd have had a serious fall. It reminded me of a very similar story a friend of mine told me and he had a Pulsar. He told me that once a Pulsar begins to fishtail, it is nearly impossible to control it.


                I feel lucky. Lessons learnt:
                • Never trust pedestrians. Areas with buildings on either side are pedestrian zones. Not many people in India cross roads on Zebra crossings and ultimately, it is the drivers/riders who have to look out for the pedestrians' and their own safety.
                • Practice braking. Never stomp the rear pedal.

                I'm going to make sure I do all that.

                I've vowed to myself today that I'm not going to ride above 40 in these areas. I'll open the taps only when I'm 100% sure the streets are clear of people.

                Just wanted to share this with everyone. Please ride safe. Kudos to the Ninja. It's an incredible machine.
                I have total sympathy for you dude.. There should be huge penalties for jaywalking in India, they are a potential accident hazard. Unfortunately it's not always the pedestrians you have to worry about, Cows.. dogs... the entire friggin zoo uses the road as their personal
                playground.
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                b.The state of being in rapid motion; rapidity.
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                • Originally posted by Nilhawk View Post
                  And it cant be a paint job because no one here will do a costly paintjob on his new Ninja (no painter here is capable of that also). For info only 4 Ninjas are here at Agartala, 2 green, 1 black and now 1 blue.
                  There are a few ninja's with custom paint work like airbrush effects, etc. in the country. Yes its expensive but some people like the exclusivity so they spend a bit more for the extra eye balls.

                  Officially only black and green is available thru the bajaj outlets so it has to be a paint job or someone imported blue fairings and a blue tank for their bike

                  Originally posted by asheshambasta View Post
                  I feel lucky. Lessons learnt:
                  • Never trust pedestrians. Areas with buildings on either side are pedestrian zones. Not many people in India cross roads on Zebra crossings and ultimately, it is the drivers/riders who have to look out for the pedestrians' and their own safety.
                  • Practice braking. Never stomp the rear pedal.

                  NEVER use the rear brake unless you're riding on wet roads or on gravel.

                  Read Sport biking techniques by Nick Ienatsch and Twist of the Wrist by Keith Code. Target fixation, panic braking and survival instincts will make you crash. Join us for a ride sometime and we'll enlighten you
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                  • Originally posted by n_aditya View Post
                    NEVER use the rear brake unless you're riding on wet roads or on gravel.

                    Read Sport biking techniques by Nick Ienatsch and Twist of the Wrist by Keith Code. Target fixation, panic braking and survival instincts will make you crash. Join us for a ride sometime and we'll enlighten you
                    Would love that dude. It was a huge mistake that could have cost me dearly - both in terms of damage to my new bike and I'd have at least ended up in a hospital.

                    I'll read the books and yes, will look forward to riding with you guys sometime soon!


                    Originally posted by ronthedon View Post
                    I have total sympathy for you dude.. There should be huge penalties for jaywalking in India, they are a potential accident hazard. Unfortunately it's not always the pedestrians you have to worry about, Cows.. dogs... the entire friggin zoo uses the road as their personal
                    playground.
                    True. I find the streets of Bangalore very undisciplined. I think this city has the least regard for traffic rules after Kolkata and Mumbai. I've seen chaotic traffic in Chennai as well but not as much as here. I've heard many things about Hyderabad too.

                    What causes anguish is the fact that people buying vehicles in Bangalore end up paying the highest amounts of road taxes and yet are guaranteed nothing. Traffic rules are largely unenforced and our road standards are poor.
                    Last edited by asheshambasta; 02-06-2012, 03:55 PM.
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                    • Kawasaki Ninja 250R

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                    • @asheshm: great to hear that you didn't experience any crash and released the brake at the nick of the time...the front brake usually is more effective for hard braking, unless the road's damaged/wet etc.(i.e. grip on tar is very less). Anyway, you have found that out and I'm sure things like this, would make us more cautious/responsible on road. Ride safe.

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                      • chennai ninja owners,iam planning to remove the front number plate and get it stickered on the windscreen or the front mudguard.Which do you think would be better and safer considering the cops??
                        AweSome is too LesS!

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                        • Originally posted by JonnyRider View Post
                          @asheshm: great to hear that you didn't experience any crash and released the brake at the nick of the time...the front brake usually is more effective for hard braking, unless the road's damaged/wet etc.(i.e. grip on tar is very less). Anyway, you have found that out and I'm sure things like this, would make us more cautious/responsible on road. Ride safe.
                          True that. And that is a skill that's deceptively hard to master. I'm learning, though. Just went for a late night spin around Koramangala. Was 2 times more cautious this time.
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                          • Originally posted by jeofpereira View Post
                            What is the difference between (TCBI with digital advance - ignition vs. Digital - ignition)??

                            I think the 2010 Ninja shows that it comes with Digital Ignition and post 2011-2012 shows TCBI with digital advance.
                            What does that mean and what difference would it make if we were to compare the 2010 model with 2011 / 2012 ?
                            Here's a link i found that might explain some things. I learnt that TCBI means 'Transistor controlled breakerless ignition'. Still don't know which comes on the 2010 Ninja. Got a lot of google research to do! Some other bikes come with CDI type ignition systems. (Capacitor discharge ignition) Gonna read up on this as well!!
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                            • Originally posted by vinbex View Post
                              chennai ninja owners,iam planning to remove the front number plate and get it stickered on the windscreen or the front mudguard.Which do you think would be better and safer considering the cops??

                              Do it on the windscreen. Most Chennai Ninja's have done that. Cops generally don't bother as long as the lettering is the approved size and font -avoid fancy lettering.

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                              • Originally posted by Sunnyside_up! View Post
                                Do it on the windscreen. Most Chennai Ninja's have done that. Cops generally don't bother as long as the lettering is the approved size and font -avoid fancy lettering.
                                +1; and it is LEGALLY accepted
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