Congrats Reneav on the engagement....ZMRs are lean tuned for FE and so a little more leaning of AFR leads to knocking....Check for Adulterated fuel, to Injector clogging, to holed Air filter to cracked Throttle body mount ,to chain and sprocket lube.....it could also be due to your riding a much smoother engine maintained well.....
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Congrats Reneav on the engagement....ZMRs are lean tuned for FE and so a little more leaning of AFR leads to knocking....Check for Adulterated fuel, to Injector clogging, to holed Air filter to cracked Throttle body mount ,to chain and sprocket lube.....it could also be due to your riding a much smoother engine maintained well.....When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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@reneav, first thing is, there is a big difference between Hunk's engine and Karizma's. The 150cc unit from Honda has advanced technology and is very famous for its smooth and silent characters. On the other hand, Karizma's/ZMR's engine is refined but not silent. If you ride a Hunk suddenly, you feel ZMR to have vibrations and noise for sure. Keep that in mind. At higher speeds, the 150 cc engine makes a booming noise, where ZMR's engine feels relaxed.
Regarding your bike feeling powerless when its heated up, check if your oil-cooling system is working properly. Check if the ignition coil is getting overheated. Check spark plug cable and finally spark plug. Change the spark plug and see. Make sure the crush ring on the spark plug is flat.
You may also need to check if your timing chain is in good condition and is not worn out. Make sure valve clearances are correct.
Please check the condition of the clutch plates. Wornout or overheated clutch plates cause powerloss.
Also, check the condition of drive chain system. Replace the drum rubbers in the rear wheel hub. Improperly maintained drive chain makes lots of noise and creates vibrations.
The huge fairnings of the ZMR are a draw back, which adds up to lot of vibrations if not seated properly.
PS: Guess I gave a big list
. Along with [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir's advice, if you could check what I mentioned, it would be good. Check the engine mounts too if they are properly tightened.
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Gotta get that checked. I will check on the Clutch Plates and Pressure Plates too.. I have completed nearly 35,000 though I know it can run another 5000+ kms with the stock Clutch Plates.. I don't wanna take risk on long rides. so i will get them Changed..Originally posted by Divya Sharan View PostTappet clearance normal? Get it set at the exhaust valves. Though the manual says 0.1 mm for both intake and exhaust, you can keep the exhaust clearance at 0.09.
I recently got the Clutch Cables and Acceleration cables changed.. both A and B.. bike doesn't have loss in top speed.. but the initial acceleration reduces when the engine heats up.. I will have to heat up the engine completely before taking it to the service center to diagnose the issue..
not comparing Hunk with Karizma/ZMR :P just that after riding it for like 1500+ kms in 10 days.. I feel ZMR is harsh
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Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
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Originally posted by psr View PostHappy to see helping hands in both ZMA and ZMR threads....I can now take it easy , and let the Young and energetic members take over..


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Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!
Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0
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Originally posted by psr View PostCongrats Reneav on the engagement....ZMRs are lean tuned for FE and so a little more leaning of AFR leads to knocking....Check for Adulterated fuel, to Injector clogging, to holed Air filter to cracked Throttle body mount ,to chain and sprocket lube.....it could also be due to your riding a much smoother engine maintained well.....Thank you for the suggestions..Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post@reneav, first thing is, there is a big difference between Hunk's engine and Karizma's. The 150cc unit from Honda has advanced technology and is very famous for its smooth and silent characters. On the other hand, Karizma's/ZMR's engine is refined but not silent. If you ride a Hunk suddenly, you feel ZMR to have vibrations and noise for sure. Keep that in mind. At higher speeds, the 150 cc engine makes a booming noise, where ZMR's engine feels relaxed.
Regarding your bike feeling powerless when its heated up, check if your oil-cooling system is working properly. Check if the ignition coil is getting overheated. Check spark plug cable and finally spark plug. Change the spark plug and see. Make sure the crush ring on the spark plug is flat.
You may also need to check if your timing chain is in good condition and is not worn out. Make sure valve clearances are correct.
Please check the condition of the clutch plates. Wornout or overheated clutch plates cause powerloss.
Also, check the condition of drive chain system. Replace the drum rubbers in the rear wheel hub. Improperly maintained drive chain makes lots of noise and creates vibrations.
The huge fairnings of the ZMR are a draw back, which adds up to lot of vibrations if not seated properly.
PS: Guess I gave a big list
. Along with @psr sir's advice, if you could check what I mentioned, it would be good. Check the engine mounts too if they are properly tightened. 
Can you suggest how I can check to see if the timing chain is in good condition.. if I ride for some 300 kms, I can hear the tappets... I will be going to Spiti Valley (keeping my fingers crossed) next month. I will have to find out how the bike behaves when with my friends before the long solo ride
[MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir.. how can I find out about the Injectors being clogged?? how do I get them clearedSplendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
Delhi to Nepal
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Sir, no relaxations please!Originally posted by psr View PostHappy to see helping hands in both ZMA and ZMR threads....I can now take it easy , and let the Young and energetic members take over..
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We need, at least, your supervision to correct us if we become overenthusiastic at times.
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Originally posted by rreneav1987 View PostTurn off the ignition, keep your hand on the Fuel Pump and turn on the ignition.. check if the fuel pump is working.. if it is not working, there is a guy near Lakshmi Nagar where he services Fuel Pumps.. he will ask for 1000/- and he will open the Fuel pump and see what the problem is and he gives 2 months warranty.. of course, it is worth it.. let me know if you are able to feel the Fuel pump working or not..
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Congrats Reneav!
Now to the fuel pump...you mean to say that once a engine get stall...check the fuel pump....does it vibrate or hand feel some kind of movement from fuel pump?
In Lakshmi Nagar, can you provide me a location....address...so that i can get the fuel pump check...
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You can check it always. Once stalled you can check it again to potentially capture the errorneous part or eliminate the same.Originally posted by veryhiphop View PostNow to the fuel pump...you mean to say that once a engine get stall...check the fuel pump....does it vibrate or hand feel some kind of movement from fuel pump?
Keep a keen ear to the bike's mechanism as soon as you switch on the ignition (don't crank the engine yet). While doing so, keep the left palm on the pump and
1. listen if the pump is switched on with the ignition. (makes a silent wirrrrrrrrrr sound)
2. feel if the pump is priming fuel (working), you'll feel a slight sensation in your palm.
This caught my eye just now!Originally posted by vishad sharma View Postmy idle rpm is not constant
What spark plug are you using?
Recommended plugs:
Stock - NGK DPR 8 EA9
G Power - NGK DPR 8 EGP-9Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
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Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0
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Ok will check...Originally posted by Divya Sharan View PostYou can check it always. Once stalled you can check it again to potentially capture the errorneous part or eliminate the same.
Keep a keen ear to the bike's mechanism as soon as you switch on the ignition (don't crank the engine yet). While doing so, keep the left palm on the pump and
1. listen if the pump is switched on with the ignition. (makes a silent wirrrrrrrrrr sound)
2. feel if the pump is priming fuel (working), you'll feel a slight sensation in your palm.
This caught my eye just now!
What spark plug are you using?
Recommended plugs:
Stock - NGK DPR 8 EA9
G Power - NGK DPR 8 EGP-9
Wht about address on mechanic at laxmi nagar...
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That only [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION] can share. I live in BLR brother.Originally posted by veryhiphop View PostWht about address on mechanic at laxmi nagar...Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!
Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0
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Haha! You're still young and energetic. Besides, we really need inputs from all of the experienced members nowadays as there's a lot of misinformation being spouted on various threads these days.Originally posted by psr View PostHappy to see helping hands in both ZMA and ZMR threads....I can now take it easy , and let the Young and energetic members take over..
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Originally posted by veryhiphop View PostOk will check...
Wht about address on mechanic at laxmi nagar...
I will let you know after my friend calls me back. he got his pump fixed from there only..
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he said its in Jheel Market, Geeta Colony.. just near Laxmi Nagar..
He also asked to try in Meerut - Soti Ganj.. they sell Pumps at cheap price..Last edited by rreneav1987; 05-19-2014, 05:30 PM.Splendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
Delhi to Nepal
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