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  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Congrats Reneav on the engagement....ZMRs are lean tuned for FE and so a little more leaning of AFR leads to knocking....Check for Adulterated fuel, to Injector clogging, to holed Air filter to cracked Throttle body mount ,to chain and sprocket lube.....it could also be due to your riding a much smoother engine maintained well.....
    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      @reneav, first thing is, there is a big difference between Hunk's engine and Karizma's. The 150cc unit from Honda has advanced technology and is very famous for its smooth and silent characters. On the other hand, Karizma's/ZMR's engine is refined but not silent. If you ride a Hunk suddenly, you feel ZMR to have vibrations and noise for sure. Keep that in mind. At higher speeds, the 150 cc engine makes a booming noise, where ZMR's engine feels relaxed.

      Regarding your bike feeling powerless when its heated up, check if your oil-cooling system is working properly. Check if the ignition coil is getting overheated. Check spark plug cable and finally spark plug. Change the spark plug and see. Make sure the crush ring on the spark plug is flat.

      You may also need to check if your timing chain is in good condition and is not worn out. Make sure valve clearances are correct.

      Please check the condition of the clutch plates. Wornout or overheated clutch plates cause powerloss.

      Also, check the condition of drive chain system. Replace the drum rubbers in the rear wheel hub. Improperly maintained drive chain makes lots of noise and creates vibrations.

      The huge fairnings of the ZMR are a draw back, which adds up to lot of vibrations if not seated properly.

      PS: Guess I gave a big list . Along with [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir's advice, if you could check what I mentioned, it would be good. Check the engine mounts too if they are properly tightened.
      Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 05-19-2014, 12:19 PM.
      HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
      Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

      Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

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        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          Tappet clearance normal? Get it set at the exhaust valves. Though the manual says 0.1 mm for both intake and exhaust, you can keep the exhaust clearance at 0.09.
          Gotta get that checked. I will check on the Clutch Plates and Pressure Plates too.. I have completed nearly 35,000 though I know it can run another 5000+ kms with the stock Clutch Plates.. I don't wanna take risk on long rides. so i will get them Changed..

          I recently got the Clutch Cables and Acceleration cables changed.. both A and B.. bike doesn't have loss in top speed.. but the initial acceleration reduces when the engine heats up.. I will have to heat up the engine completely before taking it to the service center to diagnose the issue..

          not comparing Hunk with Karizma/ZMR :P just that after riding it for like 1500+ kms in 10 days.. I feel ZMR is harsh
          Splendor - 2k to 2006
          Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
          P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
          Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
          ZMR - 2010 to Forever
          RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
          Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
          RayZ - 2015 til now
          Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


          Delhi to Narkanda
          Delhi to Coimbatore
          Delhi to Nepal

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          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by psr View Post
            Happy to see helping hands in both ZMA and ZMR threads....I can now take it easy , and let the Young and energetic members take over..


            Noooooo!!!
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by psr View Post
              Congrats Reneav on the engagement....ZMRs are lean tuned for FE and so a little more leaning of AFR leads to knocking....Check for Adulterated fuel, to Injector clogging, to holed Air filter to cracked Throttle body mount ,to chain and sprocket lube.....it could also be due to your riding a much smoother engine maintained well.....
              Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
              @reneav, first thing is, there is a big difference between Hunk's engine and Karizma's. The 150cc unit from Honda has advanced technology and is very famous for its smooth and silent characters. On the other hand, Karizma's/ZMR's engine is refined but not silent. If you ride a Hunk suddenly, you feel ZMR to have vibrations and noise for sure. Keep that in mind. At higher speeds, the 150 cc engine makes a booming noise, where ZMR's engine feels relaxed.

              Regarding your bike feeling powerless when its heated up, check if your oil-cooling system is working properly. Check if the ignition coil is getting overheated. Check spark plug cable and finally spark plug. Change the spark plug and see. Make sure the crush ring on the spark plug is flat.

              You may also need to check if your timing chain is in good condition and is not worn out. Make sure valve clearances are correct.

              Please check the condition of the clutch plates. Wornout or overheated clutch plates cause powerloss.

              Also, check the condition of drive chain system. Replace the drum rubbers in the rear wheel hub. Improperly maintained drive chain makes lots of noise and creates vibrations.

              The huge fairnings of the ZMR are a draw back, which adds up to lot of vibrations if not seated properly.

              PS: Guess I gave a big list . Along with @psr sir's advice, if you could check what I mentioned, it would be good. Check the engine mounts too if they are properly tightened.
              Thank you for the suggestions..

              Can you suggest how I can check to see if the timing chain is in good condition.. if I ride for some 300 kms, I can hear the tappets... I will be going to Spiti Valley (keeping my fingers crossed) next month. I will have to find out how the bike behaves when with my friends before the long solo ride
              [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir.. how can I find out about the Injectors being clogged?? how do I get them cleared
              Splendor - 2k to 2006
              Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
              P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
              Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
              ZMR - 2010 to Forever
              RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
              Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
              RayZ - 2015 til now
              Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


              Delhi to Narkanda
              Delhi to Coimbatore
              Delhi to Nepal

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              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by psr View Post
                Happy to see helping hands in both ZMA and ZMR threads....I can now take it easy , and let the Young and energetic members take over.. [ATTACH=CONFIG]145215[/ATTACH]
                Sir, no relaxations please! We need, at least, your supervision to correct us if we become overenthusiastic at times.
                HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                  Turn off the ignition, keep your hand on the Fuel Pump and turn on the ignition.. check if the fuel pump is working.. if it is not working, there is a guy near Lakshmi Nagar where he services Fuel Pumps.. he will ask for 1000/- and he will open the Fuel pump and see what the problem is and he gives 2 months warranty.. of course, it is worth it.. let me know if you are able to feel the Fuel pump working or not..

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                  Congrats Reneav!

                  Now to the fuel pump...you mean to say that once a engine get stall...check the fuel pump....does it vibrate or hand feel some kind of movement from fuel pump?

                  In Lakshmi Nagar, can you provide me a location....address...so that i can get the fuel pump check...

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                  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                    Now to the fuel pump...you mean to say that once a engine get stall...check the fuel pump....does it vibrate or hand feel some kind of movement from fuel pump?
                    You can check it always. Once stalled you can check it again to potentially capture the errorneous part or eliminate the same.

                    Keep a keen ear to the bike's mechanism as soon as you switch on the ignition (don't crank the engine yet). While doing so, keep the left palm on the pump and
                    1. listen if the pump is switched on with the ignition. (makes a silent wirrrrrrrrrr sound)
                    2. feel if the pump is priming fuel (working), you'll feel a slight sensation in your palm.


                    Originally posted by vishad sharma View Post
                    my idle rpm is not constant
                    This caught my eye just now!

                    What spark plug are you using?

                    Recommended plugs:
                    Stock - NGK DPR 8 EA9
                    G Power - NGK DPR 8 EGP-9
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      You can check it always. Once stalled you can check it again to potentially capture the errorneous part or eliminate the same.

                      Keep a keen ear to the bike's mechanism as soon as you switch on the ignition (don't crank the engine yet). While doing so, keep the left palm on the pump and
                      1. listen if the pump is switched on with the ignition. (makes a silent wirrrrrrrrrr sound)
                      2. feel if the pump is priming fuel (working), you'll feel a slight sensation in your palm.




                      This caught my eye just now!

                      What spark plug are you using?

                      Recommended plugs:
                      Stock - NGK DPR 8 EA9
                      G Power - NGK DPR 8 EGP-9
                      Ok will check...

                      Wht about address on mechanic at laxmi nagar...

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                      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                        Wht about address on mechanic at laxmi nagar...
                        That only [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION] can share. I live in BLR brother.
                        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by psr View Post
                          Happy to see helping hands in both ZMA and ZMR threads....I can now take it easy , and let the Young and energetic members take over.. [ATTACH=CONFIG]145215[/ATTACH]
                          Haha! You're still young and energetic. Besides, we really need inputs from all of the experienced members nowadays as there's a lot of misinformation being spouted on various threads these days.

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                          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                            Ok will check...

                            Wht about address on mechanic at laxmi nagar...

                            I will let you know after my friend calls me back. he got his pump fixed from there only..

                            Edit :

                            he said its in Jheel Market, Geeta Colony.. just near Laxmi Nagar..

                            He also asked to try in Meerut - Soti Ganj.. they sell Pumps at cheap price..
                            Last edited by rreneav1987; 05-19-2014, 05:30 PM.
                            Splendor - 2k to 2006
                            Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                            P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                            Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                            ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                            RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                            Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                            RayZ - 2015 til now
                            Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                            Delhi to Narkanda
                            Delhi to Coimbatore
                            Delhi to Nepal

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                            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              brother the furl pump is working fine, N i am using stock spark plugs

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                              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Congrats [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION]

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