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**antan_shank** · 05-15-2014, 12:07 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post

I was having for black color ZMR...need to check my older data and will let you know...for white the part no is different...you can check at the SVC...

Thanks for the quick response, but please don't point me to SVC they are most ignorant persons I have ever come across...

**kmk0311** · 05-15-2014, 04:13 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by padfootmoony2006 View Post

Guys...I have been using the Motul 7100 FS since quite a ling time now...and my change intervals are around 4k kms...!!(Also depends on the way iver ridden the bike after the change..as in most of city or highway )

I just wanted to know that most of you guys here use Shell AX7 Semi-Synth....what is the average change interval u guys follow?

You can use it for 2500 kms without any issues.

**padfootmoony2006** · 05-15-2014, 06:29 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Guys im looking for 28smd T10 pilot lamps for my bike...but i want it in warm white colour temp.....and not the blueish.purple shade.....can any 1 post link of the online store where il bbe able to find it???

**vishad sharma** · 05-16-2014, 02:52 AM

Please help me guys....

I own a karizma zmr 2012 edition done 16000k on it I am facing a unique problem that is...
My bike feels non responsive between 2 to 2500 k rpm just like turbo lag in diesel engine and some time engine stalls when idling and then it restarts with long self I went to many acs no of machines checked my bike they cleaned the fi reinstalled the valves reinstated engine temp sensor after doing all that the problem went but it came back pretty soon beyond this my bike is performing very well 45+ avg smooth engine nice pick up I like to drive my bike in low rpms smoothly so I change my gear at between 2 to 3000rpm may be my this habit is causing this problem please is there any one who can solve my problem please respond thanks in advance

**Divya Sharan** · 05-16-2014, 07:54 AM

Re: Please help me guys....

Originally posted by vishad sharma View Post

My bike feels non responsive between 2 to 2500 k rpm just like turbo lag in diesel engine ....

I like to drive my bike in low rpms smoothly so I change my gear at between 2 to 3000rpm

You said it yourself!

FYI, peak power is produced at 7000 rpm and peak torque at 6000 rpm.
So, why would one upshift in the 2-3k rpm range? This is the reason you feel there is a turbo lag. The engine isn't turning over at sufficient rotations!

Keep doing this and eventually you'll screw the clutch plates as well as the engine because of stress.

Please upshift in the 4500-5000 rpm range or 4000-4500 rpm range for fuel efficiency. I upshift at around 5k rpm and get about 42-43 kmpl in city.

Tapatalk'd from my stupid phone!

**sibun** · 05-16-2014, 10:31 AM

Re: Please help me guys....

Originally posted by vishad sharma View Post

I own a karizma zmr 2012 edition done 16000k on it I am facing a unique problem that is...
My bike feels non responsive between 2 to 2500 k rpm just like turbo lag in diesel engine and some time engine stalls when idling and then it restarts with long self I went to many acs no of machines checked my bike they cleaned the fi reinstalled the valves reinstated engine temp sensor after doing all that the problem went but it came back pretty soon beyond this my bike is performing very well 45+ avg smooth engine nice pick up I like to drive my bike in low rpms smoothly so I change my gear at between 2 to 3000rpm may be my this habit is causing this problem please is there any one who can solve my problem please respond thanks in advance

This a dangerous habit as you are lugging the engine. Even splendors upshift at greater than 3k rpm and ZMR being tall geared it will lug terribly.

If you continue doing this then first thing to go will be your crankshaft. Within a short time your big end will make sound. So as Divya has said change the riding style as shift at more than 4000 rpm from third gear onwards.

**vishad sharma** · 05-16-2014, 07:48 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I do this because my bike shows very good avg on rtmi 60 to 70 and I think that my bike is giving good avg and that's the reason i do this i give my bike slow acceleration and then shift the gear between 2 to 3000k and the bike run smoothly without any strain in 3rd 4th n 5th gear i ride at 3000 rmp at 45kmph speed which is known as a best speed for mileage is this ok or i should change my riding style ???
coz u r right i can feel that my clutch plates are dieing.....
is the cold start problem is due to this only ??

**jack_daniels** · 05-17-2014, 01:51 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Yup. Me too have started slowing down nowadays. Avg of 35-45 km/h in the city. No more races, shooting from signals, etc & thank god FE is bak to gud again. Get 40 kmpl nowadays instead of 30 wich I used to get earlier due to my fast riding style. I think in summer hot temp, the FE comes down a lot due to the fuel getting evaporated in thin air !
[MENTION=68994]vishad sharma[/MENTION] shift @ the right RPMs & ur engine will also be alright..

**vishad sharma** · 05-17-2014, 07:59 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Can you please tell at what rpms I should shift gear to get best fuel economy, I think fuel economy comes when
Engine is running in no stress like when it's in a constant speed if I will pull my bike to 4th 5000 rpm in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4, gear the bike will be above 60 in lower gears only and we can really make out from engines sound that it's in stress and the rtmi shows very bad avg the avg stabilise in 5th gear but we can't ride in 5 th gear always in city what should I do ?

**Divya Sharan** · 05-17-2014, 09:44 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishad sharma View Post

Can you please tell at what rpms I should shift gear to get best fuel economy, I think fuel economy comes when
Engine is running in no stress like when it's in a constant speed if I will pull my bike to 4th 5000 rpm in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4, gear the bike will be above 60 in lower gears only and we can really make out from engines sound that it's in stress and the rtmi shows very bad avg the avg stabilise in 5th gear but we can't ride in 5 th gear always in city what should I do ?

Blindly following RTMI readings isn't beneficial since it calculates mileage based on the fuel consumption every 10 odd seconds. Upshift at around 4000+ RPMs in city as well and maintain a steady acceleration pattern. Mileage will be good.

45 kmph in top gear isn't a golden rule! And certainly not good for newer bikes.

**sarkartheruler** · 05-17-2014, 11:26 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

What I learnt from car experts is, short shifting leads to higher fuel efficiency. Upshift at not more than 2000 rpm. Exceed 2000 rpm only on the 5th gear. And it works well.
Same is not the case with bikes, I think.

With my earlier bikes, I just didn't like the additional vibes at 4000 rpm, and would always shift at 3000 rpm. Was doing the same with my ZMR, until I got to know from the fellow riders here that it is not good for the bike or FE.

**kmk0311** · 05-17-2014, 11:53 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishad sharma View Post

Can you please tell at what rpms I should shift gear to get best fuel economy,

Upshift at 4000-4500 rpm man and you'll get good mileage. Btw what mileage have you been getting till now?

**vishad sharma** · 05-18-2014, 12:02 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

i am getting 43 to 46kmpl when i am shifting between 2000 to 3000 rpm and the rtmi shows above 50 all time when i am shifting it between 2000 to 3000, it shows reading of every odd 10 sec and if all the readings show above 50kmpl that means actually bike is giving that avg and that's what happens in my case i got 52 kmpl on high ways my bike feel very comfortable and relax at this rpm

**Divya Sharan** · 05-18-2014, 12:05 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishad sharma View Post

i am getting 43 to 46kmpl when i am shifting between 2000 to 3000 rpm and the rtmi shows above 50 all time when i am shifting it between 2000 to 3000, it shows reading of every odd 10 sec and if all the readings show above 50kmpl that means actually bike is giving that avg and that's what happens in my case i got 52 kmpl on high ways my bike feel very comfortable and relax at this rpm

I get 42-43 kmpl in city and ~50-52 kmpl on highways with my shifting pattern. In fact, I even got 57.2 kmpl once on the highway. 2-3k RPM is way too low. Maybe it would work in case of a bullet, but it's not good for ZMR.

**kmk0311** · 05-18-2014, 12:09 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

@vishad sharma You are slowly destroying the engine in the name of getting mileage.. it is not good at all in the long run. If you didnt know lugging the engine leads to incomplete combustion of fuel, increases the emissions and increases the carbon deposits thereby spoiling the engine. You may get decent mileage.. for now. But its not a good habit at all.

Please read more about the harmful effects of lugging online if you are still not satisfied with our answers.

Also I get 40kmpl in the city and 45-47 kmpl in the highway which according to me is a decent mileage for this bike.

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