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**payeng** · 07-29-2009, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by Sak8 View Post

HI,
probikers

im an inactive member of this therad,
my p220 will be 2 months old tommorow

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i did 2100 on odo i must say xcellent bike givig me 48kmpl avg

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did max 132kmph max

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now i want to change its rear stock tyre to fz 16's

could u plz tell the pros and cons of it..
and should i go for it

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Better stick to the manufacturer's recommended tyre profiles.. one can always try to experiment.. there will be some gains but there would also be loss somewhere else to compensate.

**Sak8** · 07-30-2009, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Better stick to the manufacturer's recommended tyre profiles.. one can always try to experiment.. there will be some gains but there would also be loss somewhere else to compensate.

thanks for replying.

but plz can u tell in details what loss there willl be.

while trying to lean a little i fell due to rear tyre slipped

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any suggestions??

**ajinkya** · 07-30-2009, 09:23 AM

your top end will come down it comes down even when a irc 130/70 tyre is put on, it will be even more when the fz's tyre a 140/60 is put in. i suggest you go for mrf vyde as its got good grip.

**arunmur** · 07-30-2009, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by vid_powerstroke View Post

My bike's nearly 2 months old now

..... returning a superb mileage of 43 to 45

.... under economic yet very conscious riding......

...As most of u kno there is a Speed and gear shift chart given in the manual....

i strictly follow it.... and while following i noticed that gear changes take place exactly at 4k rpm(while keeping up with the chart)....

my first service is over a month back... My bike has 900kms on its odo.....the max ive touched is 113 and that too for 5 secs.... i touched that speed and then slowed down rapidly ...coz i felt hurt for exploiting it...(Even for just 5 secs)

But the thing is after i slowed down my bike touched speeds of 80 to 90 kms with utmost ease...

well after that experience, till today i maintain a healthy speed of 55 to 60 in top gear...
.... i now need one help.... kindly tell me how to slowly open up my bikes true potential..

Pls suggest me the exact yet effective riding pattern that i need to follow from 900kms ~ 2500kms..... U may give out ur riding pattern and tips u followed till 2500kms...

With my previous vehicle owning experiances i can say dont cruize at a single speed during this time. Just keep varying the load conditions take it to the top speed once in a while and stay there for longer durations say 5-10 mins. This is effectively a method to loosen your piston and other parts. Once the parts are loose and set in they tend to become more efficient and powerful.

**monty007** · 07-30-2009, 11:23 AM

just paid a visit to yamaha showroom...checked fazer..costed about 82k on road here...asked him if 220 carb is beter then....he said no looks are better...i agreed...then he kept going on n said tht fazer is in market to rival 220 n ZMa...i was smiling with freakyness..he understood me n gave me a book where it was compared with 220 n Zma...guess wht...those where just pts regarding looks of bike..loike visor..tyre..lol i said wheres performance figures.......he said,,tht doesnt matter to us... :P ...latter he made a superb statement :-

"sir, a customers sticks to bajaj for hradly 1.5 yrs.but yamaha rider astick to same product for abt 5 yrs.. :O ...n bajaj starts having problem from noise of its chain at very first of all all niggles..."

guess who tht guy was....he was gm of tht showroom n entire region... wht u think abt this now...

**Praful** · 07-30-2009, 11:30 AM

^^ Well the guy is right, brand loyalty in Bajaj is lesser compared to Yamaha.

He's also right that for a majority of the customers its more about the style statement than performance.

**arunmur** · 07-30-2009, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by monty007 View Post

just paid a visit to yamaha showroom...checked fazer..costed about 82k on road here...asked him if 220 carb is beter then....he said no looks are better...i agreed...then he kept going on n said tht fazer is in market to rival 220 n ZMa...i was smiling with freakyness..he understood me n gave me a book where it was compared with 220 n Zma...guess wht...those where just pts regarding looks of bike..loike visor..tyre..lol i said wheres performance figures.......he said,,tht doesnt matter to us... :P ...latter he made a superb statement :-

"sir, a customers sticks to bajaj for hradly 1.5 yrs.but yamaha rider astick to same product for abt 5 yrs.. :O ...n bajaj starts having problem from noise of its chain at very first of all all niggles..."

guess who tht guy was....he was gm of tht showroom n entire region... wht u think abt this now...

World is moving much faster now a days. In the earlier days some one would own an Enfiled for generations say about 60 years, even cars would be owned for atleast 20 years. Today the world moves much faster, no one owns a car more than 7 years(unless they want to be bumboozed by spares prices), Studies have suggested that Cars are best owned for 5 years and bikes for 2 years.

I think Till date a Yamaha bike owner did not get a proper upgrade for his bike before five years. But Bajaj upgrades its bike every year luring the owners to upgrade, this might be the reason behind it. It will be interesting to see what will happen if Yamaha updates its bikes every year like they are doing with the FZ.

**monty007** · 07-30-2009, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

^^ Well the guy is right, brand loyalty in Bajaj is lesser compared to Yamaha.

He's also right that for a majority of the customers its more about the style statement than performance.

but wht abt he said tht performance figures doesnt matters to us...
n do u think tht fazer is comparable with new 220carb>? wssay?

**pranay** · 07-30-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by monty007 View Post

but wht abt he said tht performance figures doesnt matters to us...
n do u think tht fazer is comparable with new 220carb>? wssay?

He will say it of course because he works for Yamaha. Fazer doesn't have performance to match its looks. Otherwise, it is comparable to the 220.

**Praful** · 07-30-2009, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by arunmur View Post

I think Till date a Yamaha bike owner did not get a proper upgrade for his bike before five years. But Bajaj upgrades its bike every year luring the owners to upgrade, this might be the reason behind it. It will be interesting to see what will happen if Yamaha updates its bikes every year like they are doing with the FZ.

Thats an interesting way to look at it!

Originally posted by monty007 View Post

but wht abt he said tht performance figures doesnt matters to us...
n do u think tht fazer is comparable with new 220carb>? wssay?

When he said performance doesnt matter, he meant the larger biking population and he was in no way considering performance enthusiasts who are probabaly a mere 10% of bike buying population.

And I don't compare bikes which are so different in nature.

**niks_devil666** · 07-30-2009, 11:46 AM

Its just the performance where it gets beaten ....

I saw one fazer in Delhi last week , and it looks absolutely fantastic ! I wish if it had a bigger mill

**santoosh** · 07-30-2009, 11:57 AM

Oly if fazer came in a 180-200 cc , and produced power of abt 17 ps also. I would have taken it blindly.

nw its Just a looker and topic ends all.All show ,no go
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**Sak8** · 07-30-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by monty007 View Post

just paid a visit to yamaha showroom...checked fazer..costed about 82k on road here...asked him if 220 carb is beter then....he said no looks are better...i agreed...then he kept going on n said tht fazer is in market to rival 220 n ZMa...i was smiling with freakyness..he understood me n gave me a book where it was compared with 220 n Zma...guess wht...those where just pts regarding looks of bike..loike visor..tyre..lol i said wheres performance figures.......he said,,tht doesnt matter to us... :P ...latter he made a superb statement :-

"sir, a customers sticks to bajaj for hradly 1.5 yrs.but yamaha rider astick to same product for abt 5 yrs.. :O ...n bajaj starts having problem from noise of its chain at very first of all all niggles..."

guess who tht guy was....he was gm of tht showroom n entire region... wht u think abt this now...

it true he works for yamaha and will say in favor of yamaha

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but ask him if he had to buy new bike and ask him to choose between p220 or fazer.

if he choose fazer then his worst nightmare would be on road with 220

**Sak8** · 07-30-2009, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by monty007 View Post

guess who tht guy was....he was gm of tht showroom n entire region... wht u think abt this now...

he should not give these silly reasons for selling the bike

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guess yamaha's image in wrong hands

**Sak8** · 07-30-2009, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by ajinkya View Post

your top end will come down it comes down even when a irc 130/70 tyre is put on, it will be even more when the fz's tyre a 140/60 is put in. i suggest you go for mrf vyde as its got good grip.

is mrf vyde tubeless?
whats its price...
anyone used them in 220??

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