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  • If any of u prospective owners are so concerned of the fastest Indian tag and want the 5 kmph top-end, then get the new 220 DTSi's sprocket kit and use it. Its a 36T rear against the 37T rear of ur existing one. U too can use the "Fastest Indian" tag on ur bike!
    Last edited by Aparajith; 07-25-2009, 10:51 PM. Reason: Wrong sprocket size mentioned :)
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    • Originally posted by monty007 View Post
      wht changes will i notice with an k&n air filter in 220...just a exhaust note change or performace chnge too?have any one tried this on 220...
      there wont be any performance change except for change of exhaust note.. instead ur bike will become excessively lean no matter to how much u change the co which is due to the open loop FI in our bikes... it may lead to the damage of the engine
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      • Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
        Speaking about the OKS chain spray, dosen't it require the chain to be squeaky clean (properly cleaned using kerosene or whatever) before you spray it? There should obviously be no oil on the chain either. So you have to clean the chain every single time you want ot lube it. I considered buying it... but after seeing the above requirement, I desisted.

        Motul does not require this.
        well dude, u are spraying oil onto it.. so it doesnt matter if there is oil over it or not.. but there shouldnt be oil mixed with dust or water or lill sand... that can cause problems.. and u did a good job by shifting to motul.. its way better than OKS 451
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        • Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
          If any of u prospective owners are so concerned of the fastest Indian tag and want the 5 kmph top-end, then get the new 220 DTSi's sprocket kit and use it. Its a 36T rear against the 38T rear of ur existing one. U too can use the "Fastest Indian" tag on ur bike!
          changing the sprocket will lead to tremendous drop in acceleration of the bike but marginal increase in speed at the same rpm level.. to achieve the same or better acceleration we gotta change the gear ratios as well...
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          • Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
            Speaking about the OKS chain spray, dosen't it require the chain to be squeaky clean (properly cleaned using kerosene or whatever) before you spray it? There should obviously be no oil on the chain either. So you have to clean the chain every single time you want ot lube it. I considered buying it... but after seeing the above requirement, I desisted.

            Motul does not require this.
            Is it not mandatory to clean the chain prior to lubing it, irrespective of the brand of the lube used?

            I would not want dust & grime to remain in the chain and grind the sprockets to an early death. Better off cleaning the chain before lubing it.

            Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
            If any of u prospective owners are so concerned of the fastest Indian tag and want the 5 kmph top-end, then get the new 220 DTSi's sprocket kit and use it. Its a 36T rear against the 38T rear of ur existing one. U too can use the "Fastest Indian" tag on ur bike!
            The Fi has a 37T rear, and makes 1ps lesser (atleast on paper), so it might not help much in the topspeed department coz there might not be enough torque in topgear to push it through to a higher speed. But definitely gonna help with better cruising ability. So I am guess the topspeed might still remain the same..

            I'd be doing this for sure, got about 15K kms more of the current sprockets life to wear out first

            Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
            there wont be any performance change except for change of exhaust note.. instead ur bike will become excessively lean no matter to how much u change the co which is due to the open loop FI in our bikes... it may lead to the damage of the engine
            Have you tried putting a KnN?

            There is definitely a performance gain, the 220 with which we tried out the KnN R1100 filter was revving more freely than a stock bike and pulled much faster through the RPMs and also the extra air helped the bike breath better to hit a higher topspeed than before....

            But, with a KnN you are effectively opening the engine to more dirt and most probably will end up screwing up the reliability of the engine. Also the price to performance increase ratio makes the KnN not really worth it.


            Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
            well dude, u are spraying oil onto it.. so it doesnt matter if there is oil over it or not.. but there shouldnt be oil mixed with dust or water or lill sand... that can cause problems.. and u did a good job by shifting to motul.. its way better than OKS 451
            Motul is way more sticky/gooey compared to the OKS451 and hence it acts more like a magnet for dirt to attach itself to the chain. Plus OKS451 is cheaper too...

            @Rahul: dude you need to learn to multi-quote posts....
            Last edited by Praful; 07-25-2009, 10:47 PM.
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            • Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
              changing the sprocket will lead to tremendous drop in acceleration of the bike but marginal increase in speed at the same rpm level.. to achieve the same or better acceleration we gotta change the gear ratios as well...
              Dropping just 1 tooth at the rear will not lead to tremendous drop in pick-up. As such the 220-Fi is short geared, it will be better spaced. And a good 3 kmph in top speed is achievable. And by sprocketing what else are u altering other than the gearing ratios?

              Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
              The Fi has a 37T rear, and makes 1ps lesser (atleast on paper), so it might not help much in the topspeed department coz there might not be enough torque in topgear to push it through to a higher speed. But definitely gonna help with better cruising ability.

              I'd be doing this for sure, got about 15K kms more of the current sprockets life to wear out first
              Oh yeah, 37T. Forgot. I specifically had u in mind when I saw that the new 220 has a 36T. And its just on paper yaar. I honestly feel 1T drop at the rear will not be an issue. C'mon , when my RTR-Fi can climb all the "LA's" with a 1 tooth taller front(~3T less at rear), am sure the 220 with increased torque can handle it really well!
              Last edited by Aparajith; 07-25-2009, 10:50 PM.
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              • hey guys ! today i touched 138kmph on my 220fi!
                and the thing is i weigh 86kgs!!!
                pulsar 220 dts-fi clocks 145kmph!
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SPjGtkRWo

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                • Hi All.
                  Been away from this thread for quite a long time
                  Chain set had to be changed so got it changed few weeks back. I have clocked something around 19K Kms +. Sep08 will be completing one whole year of pure happiness
                  I am currently running on IRC 130/70. I have noticed a drop in top end. My bike wont go beyond 133-135 kph. So would advise you guyz to stick to MRF soft compound or any other tyre which has same profile as the stock


                  Pranay: Many congrats dude. Many Many Many
                  "HASTA LA VICTORIA, SIEMPRE !" - Chesigpic


                  http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/18983-spicy-sour-sweet-short-honeymoon-trip.html

                  http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/20306-pursuit-swarghat.html#post716409

                  http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...sary-trip.html

                  http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...adventure.html

                  http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...j-monsoon.html

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                  • Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
                    Hi All.
                    Been away from this thread for quite a long time
                    Chain set had to be changed so got it changed few weeks back. I have clocked something around 19K Kms +. Sep08 will be completing one whole year of pure happiness
                    I am currently running on IRC 130/70. I have noticed a drop in top end. My bike wont go beyond 133-135 kph. So would advise you guyz to stick to MRF soft compound or any other tyre which has same profile as the stock


                    Pranay: Many congrats dude. Many Many Many
                    hey dude chckout mrf vyde.
                    I know i'm slow But i'm still ahead of u!!!sigpic

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                    • Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
                      Hi All.
                      Been away from this thread for quite a long time
                      Chain set had to be changed so got it changed few weeks back. I have clocked something around 19K Kms +. Sep08 will be completing one whole year of pure happiness
                      I am currently running on IRC 130/70. I have noticed a drop in top end. My bike wont go beyond 133-135 kph. So would advise you guyz to stick to MRF soft compound or any other tyre which has same profile as the stock


                      Pranay: Many congrats dude. Many Many Many


                      ^^ I was wonder tu kahan gaayab ?

                      Congrats.
                      Howz the performance of the IRC vis-a-vis say a brand new Zapper in wet and off-road?
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                      • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                        ^^ I was wonder tu kahan gaayab ?

                        Congrats.
                        Howz the performance of the IRC vis-a-vis say a brand new Zapper in wet and off-road?
                        Finally some one was missing me You have a PM
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                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/18983-spicy-sour-sweet-short-honeymoon-trip.html

                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/20306-pursuit-swarghat.html#post716409

                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...sary-trip.html

                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...adventure.html

                        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...j-monsoon.html

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                        • Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
                          Finally some one was missing me You have a PM


                          Btw, performance of the IRC remains un answered???
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                          • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

                            Have you tried putting a KnN?

                            There is definitely a performance gain, the 220 with which we tried out the KnN R1100 filter was revving more freely than a stock bike and pulled much faster through the RPMs and also the extra air helped the bike breath better to hit a higher topspeed than before....

                            But, with a KnN you are effectively opening the engine to more dirt and most probably will end up screwing up the reliability of the engine. Also the price to performance increase ratio makes the KnN not really worth it.




                            Motul is way more sticky/gooey compared to the OKS451 and hence it acts more like a magnet for dirt to attach itself to the chain. Plus OKS451 is cheaper too...

                            @Rahul: dude you need to learn to multi-quote posts....
                            live example of a K&N causing harm is, my friends P220 from the first lot.. there no difference in the bike except for the throaty roar.. the engine was damaged extensively coz of the excessively lean mixture. which wasnt sufficient even with co set to 3.5..but to drain the performance from the K&N heavy jetting is needed which isnt actually possible on our open loop FI's and the ECU doesnt have any patches for the same..
                            ps- iam new to xbhp.. so kinda new new to multi quote.. sorry dude..


                            Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
                            Dropping just 1 tooth at the rear will not lead to tremendous drop in pick-up. As such the 220-Fi is short geared, it will be better spaced. And a good 3 kmph in top speed is achievable. And by sprocketing what else are u altering other than the gearing ratios?


                            Oh yeah, 37T. Forgot. I specifically had u in mind when I saw that the new 220 has a 36T. And its just on paper yaar. I honestly feel 1T drop at the rear will not be an issue. C'mon , when my RTR-Fi can climb all the "LA's" with a 1 tooth taller front(~3T less at rear), am sure the 220 with increased torque can handle it really well!
                            by increasing the teeth on front sprocket and decreasing on the rear ones pretty impressive top end can be achieved.. but u have to sacrifice dude.. the acceleration which sets it apart from all the bikes.. anyways lets see after i change it.. i'll be changing after more 5k kms..
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                            • wow..thank you for suggestion ..i was abt to put KnN in my bike after some days...

                              nywayss..can anyone whos experienced make a list of moda we can apply to increase performance..atleast in acceleration...like we are discussing about sprocket n knN filter...tht wu help much better...
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                              • Originally posted by monty007 View Post
                                wow..thank you for suggestion ..i was abt to put KnN in my bike after some days...

                                nywayss..can anyone whos experienced make a list of moda we can apply to increase performance..atleast in acceleration...like we are discussing about sprocket n knN filter...tht wu help much better...
                                nothing wrong in trying out... if u are satisfied with K&N u can carry on.. or u can take it out and sell it to some of ur friends.. u'll be satisfied that atleast u gave it a try.. for increasing the acceleration decreasing teeth on front sprocket can be given a try.. how about 13T sprocket for the front.. there should be marginal increase in acceleration.. but there would also be drop in the top end by almost 3-4 kph.. simultaneously we can try 38T rear sprocket also.. combined together should give awesome acceleration...
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