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**bala_racing** · 11-11-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

oHo....too much of bakwas bakar bakar going on.

See its simple!

P220, O-Ring Chain => No petrol or equally reactive agent for cleaning.

For cleaning use either of Diesel or Kerosene. Don't ask which one among the two is better, that's another topic for debate, in the end both are equally good.

If you're a rich boy and dont wanna get your hands greasy, get yourself a can of Motul Chain Clean, works like a charm.

Lubing the chain, you can use any O-Ring Spec chain spray (eg. Motul, OKS 451, Wurth, etc) OR you can get yourself a can of SAE90 gear oil and lube the chain using that. There's not too much of a difference between each, all have their pro's and con's.

Its a chain for heavens sake

, who so much tension about it.

Hi, Where can I get that Motul Chain Clean in Bangalore? Cost?

I already bought a chain lube (not a big brand to remember

) from JC road. Plz mention the name of some shop where I can get all these stuff..

**Praful** · 11-11-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by sonu_buell View Post

Dude dont use diesel or petrol, u'll ruin ur chain. Use WD 40.Spray it on the chain,then let it soak for 2mins,then put ur bike on the mainstand start it and rev the bike so the excess falls off.Wipe ur chain with a soft cloth and wolla,ur chain will luk brand nu !!! Try this. Also use gear oil graded EP-90 only for ur chain. . . .

WTF?

Where did you get that info from?

WD40 is the worst thing you can put on your O-Ring chain. I hope you know that WD40 is way more reactive than Petrol, forget Diesel. Using WD40 is sure shot recipe for killing your chain early.

I have a feeling you won't believe a word of what I say

, why don't you google more on this. You'll get tonnes of information about why not to use WD40 on a O-Ring chain.

Diesel or Kerosene is fine to be used to clean the chain. And I've been using Diesel ever since I bought the bike and my chain's run fine and last long enough.

Originally posted by bala_racing View Post

Hi, Where can I get that Motul Chain Clean in Bangalore? Cost?

I already bought a chain lube (not a big brand to remember

) from JC road. Plz mention the name of some shop where I can get all these stuff..

Cherry Agencies, Minerva Circle.

**truelypulsarian** · 11-11-2009, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

Yes its a problem!

Im sure this happened when your bike was at a slower speed and higher gear, and in all probability you were decelerating.

Either fuel/air filter is choked and also your bike's tuning is slightly off, get the CO tested.

And, worst case scenario there is water in your tank.

OT: How old are you dude?

Ya it was happend when my bike is slower and at high gear

**Sak8** · 11-11-2009, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

Black deposits indicates a rich AFR. U can make the AFR a bit lean and run for a while. U will get more mileage too

.

ok its a noob question "what is rich or lean afr and how to make it rich or lean"

**ryder_boney** · 11-11-2009, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by sonu_buell View Post

Dude dont use diesel or petrol, u'll ruin ur chain. Use WD 40.Spray it on the chain,then let it soak for 2mins,then put ur bike on the mainstand start it and rev the bike so the excess falls off.Wipe ur chain with a soft cloth and wolla,ur chain will luk brand nu !!! Try this. Also use gear oil graded EP-90 only for ur chain. . . .

dude, i dont know about your method/ingredients t clean the chain, bt your chain looks really sexy , mine din't looked that golden when i bought my bike.....

**chicane1879** · 11-11-2009, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by ryder_boney View Post

dude, i dont know about your method/ingredients t clean the chain, bt your chain looks really sexy , mine din't looked that golden when i bought my bike.....

Probably he has painted it!!

**monty007** · 11-11-2009, 10:25 PM

^ is tht rust

**truelypulsarian** · 11-11-2009, 10:33 PM

sonu_buell

Yep dude ur bike looks sexy with that GOLD chain

**KARIZMATIC** · 11-11-2009, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by KARIZMATIC View Post

i will be extremely thankfull if u could help me

have u arranged the manual

**rahul9985** · 11-11-2009, 11:16 PM

For Chain Cleaning use either Kerosene or Diesel. I personally love Kerosene. What an aroma it has.

I find chain cleaning sprays very costly. So iam comfortable with kerosene.

Originally posted by Sak8 View Post

ok its a noob question "what is rich or lean afr and how to make it rich or lean"

In simple terms it is adjusting the CO. Rich AFR means CO is high and Lean AFR means CO is low.

Technical Info:
AFR=Air Fuel Ratio. It is the ratio of mass of air to mass of fuel present during combustion.
AFR 14.7:1 is Stoichiometric Mixture.
AFR less than 14.7:1 is Rich Mixture.
AFR more than 14.7:1 is Lean Mixture.
Generally we run on AFR slightly less than 14.7:1 for optimum performance and good life of the engine.

**Praful** · 11-12-2009, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

In simple terms it is adjusting the CO. Rich AFR means CO is high and Lean AFR means CO is low.

Technical Info:
AFR=Air Fuel Ratio. It is the ratio of mass of air to mass of fuel present during combustion.
AFR 14.7:1 is Stoichiometric Mixture.
AFR less than 14.7:1 is Rich Mixture.
AFR more than 14.7:1 is Lean Mixture.
Generally we run on AFR slightly less than 14.7:1 for optimum performance and good life of the engine.

^^ Lol too much of googling and too much of a technical answer

Originally posted by Sak8 View Post

ok its a noob question "what is rich or lean afr and how to make it rich or lean"

You can read the above post for what AFR is, and

Lean- This is when there is more air and lesser fuel than the optimal (stoichiometric) ratio
Rich- This is when there is more fuel and lesser air than the optimal ratio

This is changed via the diagnostic tool for our bikes. Or as we commonly call it CO setting.

**rahul9985** · 11-12-2009, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

^^ Lol too much of googling and too much of a technical answer

You can read the above post for what AFR is, and

Lean- This is when there is more air and lesser fuel than the optimal (stoichiometric) ratio
Rich- This is when there is more fuel and lesser air than the optimal ratio

This is changed via the diagnostic tool for our bikes. Or as we commonly call it CO setting.

Well this is what the books which i read state. No googling. If i dont know about something i openly ask. Iam always open to learning and correction.

**Praful** · 11-12-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

Well this is what the books which i read state. No googling. If i dont know about something i openly ask. Iam always open to learning and correction.

You're taking this way to seriously....Itna senti mat ho

Wat I meant is, your answer is too technical. A simplified answer is what would have helped that guy!

**truelypulsarian** · 11-12-2009, 12:17 PM

Can any 1 temme the exact CO SETTINGS?

**rahul9985** · 11-12-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

You're taking this way to seriously....Itna senti mat ho

Wat I meant is, your answer is too technical. A simplified answer is what would have helped that guy!

Thats why i put a side heading as Technical info.

Cheers

Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post

Can any 1 temme the exact CO SETTINGS?

Anything between 2-2.5 is good for engine. Below 2 its lean and above 2.5 its rich.

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