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**rahul9985** · 08-13-2009, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by vid_powerstroke View Post

since u got ur tyres puncture fixed , its very obvious that there is ill fitting of Tyre.. remove tyre and put back again..or check for rim bend like how rahul told...should solve the prob...

+1...

Originally posted by monty007 View Post

will chk it out rahul bro..anymore suggestions...

if the tyre was removed for fixing the puncture, check for proper fitment of the tyre.. those idiots dont do the job perfectly.. give preference to the bend.. thats the most common cause for bike leaning by itself to one side.. it can also be due to worn out steering cone set.. is your handle fine? or does it feel a bit tight, as if something is restricting the movement? check with high degree of precision..

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

A little enquiry as you people have lot more experience with the 220 . when I start the bike, some times my starter clutch dies and the bike shuts down with a big shudder. then starts again normally.

Is this a normal quirk or should I get it checked?

Also is it advisable to put r15 tyres on the 220? the 100/80 one in the rear?

that usually happens when its too cold and the idling is very low.. increase the idling to about 1450-1500 rpm.. i run at 1350 rpm..
someone was asking me to try R15's rear tyre.. it would look quite odd.. but the road grip will be awesome..

**Bibhu** · 08-13-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

+1...

if the tyre was removed for fixing the puncture, check for proper fitment of the tyre.. those idiots dont do the job perfectly.. give preference to the bend.. thats the most common cause for bike leaning by itself to one side.. it can also be due to worn out steering cone set.. is your handle fine? or does it feel a bit tight, as if something is restricting the movement? check with high degree of precision..

that usually happens when its too cold and the idling is very low.. increase the idling to about 1450-1500 rpm.. i run at 1350 rpm..
someone was asking me to try R15's rear tyre.. it would look quite odd.. but the road grip will be awesome..

RPM is not the problem neither is cold engine, this happens even with the bike run for more than an hour.

Thank you for your suggestion.

**Praful** · 08-13-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

thats a tough job man... rev limiter in 1st gear

.. u are gonna loosen the nuts and bolts soon...

i'll try it and post the test results...

Its a 40K kms run bike, quite a bit of its loose

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

when u say for someone who drives mostly outside the city, what do u mean exactly? is it not good for city riding? is there a better tyre for city driving?

For the city I would prefer a shorter geared bike and the Sirac makes the bike taller geared. Stock would be fine with in the city!

Just from a gearing POV I would not prefer a Sirac if more than 70% of my riding is in heavy traffic!

Originally posted by pranay View Post

I don't know about other bikes, but my bike goes a bit psycho if I rev it hard, either it bounces back like rubber bullet to a wall, or it over revs sometimes. These are general readings.

The 220's rev limiter cut-off is pretty soft actually , we need to have a comparo though!

Originally posted by vid_powerstroke View Post

How many guys from here owning 220's are in bangalore ??

coz i saw a person and what looked like to me was he had a daijya or an avg helmet...with a red and Grey jacket.... anybody from here??

There a few 220's of xmen around here, come for the g2g's you would know...

Btw, wats an avg helmet!

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

Is this a normal quirk or should I get it checked?

Also is it advisable to put r15 tyres on the 220? the 100/80 one in the rear?

Its weird, never faced anything like that till date.

The R15 rear would awesome as far as road grip is concerned, acceleration will improve quite a bit.

BUT, you will loose out on top-end quite a bit, and the bike will be very short geared.

**Bibhu** · 08-13-2009, 10:50 AM

Hum.........quite a dilema. How to increase acceleration without killing the top.

**Praful** · 08-13-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

Hum.........quite a dilema. How to increase acceleration without killing the top.

Its a give and take. With the stock engine you can either increase acceleration/topend which will have a corresponding decrease in topend/acceleration.

If you want to increase both, then the engine needs to worked on to make more power/torque.

**monty007** · 08-13-2009, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

+1...

if the tyre was removed for fixing the puncture, check for proper fitment of the tyre.. those idiots dont do the job perfectly.. give preference to the bend.. thats the most common cause for bike leaning by itself to one side.. it can also be due to worn out steering cone set.. is your handle fine? or does it feel a bit tight, as if something is restricting the movement? check with high degree of precision..

that usually happens when its too cold and the idling is very low.. increase the idling to about 1450-1500 rpm.. i run at 1350 rpm..
someone was asking me to try R15's rear tyre.. it would look quite odd.. but the road grip will be awesome..

yaah...my handle feels little hard...can it be problem..ill chk for bend n as well fitting of tyre....thank you for perfect suggestion...

**nitrosatya** · 08-13-2009, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

Its a give and take. With the stock engine you can either increase acceleration/topend which will have a corresponding decrease in topend/acceleration.

If you want to increase both, then the engine needs to worked on to make more power/torque.

Then most probably you will need another bike! Ninja 250?

I am seriously thinking about the new dtsi rear sprocket.

**rahul9985** · 08-13-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

Now the rev-limiter cuts off at the following speeds thanks to the taller gearing :-

1st Gear - 49 kmph
2nd Gear - 71 kmph
3rd Gear - 100 kmph
4th Gear - yet to test

man, my rev-limiter cut-off's are :-
1st gear - 47 kmph
2nd gear - 71 kmph
3rd gear -100 kmph
4th gear - 129 kmph
tested on various roads three times.. the speeds fickle by 1-2 kmph when rev-limiter kicks in for sometime.. iam confused right now

Originally posted by monty007 View Post

yaah...my handle feels little hard...can it be problem..ill chk for bend n as well fitting of tyre....thank you for perfect suggestion...

you are welcome bro.. get the steering cone set changed.. its a little time taking job.. take the bike to pbk and pretend as if you know nothing..

**pranay** · 08-13-2009, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

man, my rev-limiter cut-off's are :-
1st gear - 47 kmph
2nd gear - 71 kmph
3rd gear -100 kmph
4th gear - 129 kmph

Some questions:

1) Do you own a DTS-i or Fi?
2) What is your tire specs?
3) Any sprocketing done?

Because these figures are way too optimistic for a stock 220 Fi.

**rahul9985** · 08-13-2009, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by pranay View Post

Some questions:

1) Do you own a DTS-i or Fi?
2) What is your tire specs?
3) Any sprocketing done?

Because these figures are way too optimistic for a stock 220 Fi.

i own the FI...
my tyre is the stock almost bald zapper...
no sprocketing..
only change i have done is iam running on NGK Iridium IX's and Motul 300v

i know they are very optimistic.. thats why i said iam confused

**monty007** · 08-13-2009, 10:03 PM

^ok bro willa ct if i dunno anything...

abt confusion..maybe ur speedo is confused

**ajinkya** · 08-14-2009, 02:12 AM

i have a question the new 220 has the soft compound tyres right can any one tell me the product code for the tyre cause i really dont want to end up buying the same old normal zapper i need the product code for the front tyre

**Praful** · 08-14-2009, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

man, my rev-limiter cut-off's are :-
1st gear - 47 kmph
2nd gear - 71 kmph
3rd gear -100 kmph
4th gear - 129 kmph
tested on various roads three times.. the speeds fickle by 1-2 kmph when rev-limiter kicks in for sometime.. iam confused right now

I remember my bike with the stock tyre being like this

1st - 47
2nd - 69
3rd - 89
4th - 119

Is your bike the one with a white tacho?

**rahul9985** · 08-14-2009, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

I remember my bike with the stock tyre being like this

1st - 47
2nd - 69
3rd - 89
4th - 119

Is your bike the one with a white tacho?

yup! how does that make a difference?

**Praful** · 08-14-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

yup! how does that make a difference?

Yup it makes loads of a difference. The white back ones have much larger speedo error

But even with speedo error doing 129 in 4th is shocking! Rest is pretty much within acceptable limits

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