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  • I am having a strange problem with my Pulsar 220. Lately I've been having rear brake hydraulic power loss. Meaning, the the rear brake pedal goes down bottom dead center, all of a sudden, without any braking whatsover, and then springs back to life after a few mins.

    After a few mins, the braking power and vacuum is back, and again in the middle of nowhere and suddenly the brake loses hydraulic power and the pedal goes down bottom dead center, then after a few mins it's back to normal! Any idea why? Changed the old fluid to new one, but still persists

    Planning to bleed the system. Is there any master cyclinder problem of any sort? Your views highly appreciated. Thanks.

    Cheers!
    VJ
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    • Originally posted by Praful View Post
      Ok, now I know a lot of people will come in and say their father and grandfather everyone used KnN without a problem. But I have seen too many people going back to stock due to a variety of reason coz after the initial fun factor KnN becomes more of an irritant.

      Now, this is more for people like me who use their bike daily. If one rides only on weekends then the damage of KnN is quite minimized.

      Firstly, with a KnN the bike needs to be in proper state of tune else most of the time it ends up running really lean and overheats the engine.

      Next, KnN is a bigger filter and lets in more air say what you want but it lets in more dirt as well. So many poeple have had issues with their bore-piston after being on KnN for a long time.

      Also, a KnN puts you in great risk in the rains where the exposed filter can suck in water into the engine, unless you have been smart and have left the filter inside the box!


      Now don't get me wrong I am not saying KnN does not work. Its just that the tradeoffs are too much for the minor bump in throttle response. Unless one very very regular with maintenance and rides in relatively clean environs I'd not recommend a KnN ever.
      Praful: Great explanation there. Do you know anything about UNI FILTER? Heard that it works almost like a free flow but doesn't damage because essentially, it's a filter.

      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
      I am having a strange problem with my Pulsar 220. Lately I've been having rear brake hydraulic power loss. Meaning, the the rear brake pedal goes down bottom dead center, all of a sudden, without any braking whatsover, and then springs back to life after a few mins.

      After a few mins, the braking power and vacuum is back, and again in the middle of nowhere and suddenly the brake loses hydraulic power and the pedal goes down bottom dead center, then after a few mins it's back to normal! Any idea why? Changed the old fluid to new one, but still persists

      Planning to bleed the system. Is there any master cyclinder problem of any sort? Your views highly appreciated. Thanks.

      Cheers!
      VJ
      VJ: Very peculiar stuff hearing from old owners Does seem to be problem with cylinders.
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      • Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
        Praful: Great explanation there. Do you know anything about UNI FILTER? Heard that it works almost like a free flow but doesn't damage because essentially, it's a filter.


        VJ: Very peculiar stuff hearing from old owners Does seem to be problem with cylinders.
        Thank you old dawg, will post a detailed review once I bleed the system one more time and see what can be done. Still if it doesn't go as planned, it must be the master cylinder as the culprit as I suspected.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
        The girl said, 'NO!'


        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


        THE END

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        • Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

          Planning to bleed the system. Is there any master cyclinder problem of any sort? Your views highly appreciated. Thanks.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          Bleed the lines. Looks like some air bubbles!

          PS: You have a Fi?

          Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
          Praful: Great explanation there. Do you know anything about UNI FILTER? Heard that it works almost like a free flow but doesn't damage because essentially, it's a filter.

          Yes, I have heard about UNI. Its good coz its a Foam filter It might be marginally free flowing compared to stock.

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          • Originally posted by Praful View Post
            Bleed the lines. Looks like some air bubbles!

            PS: You have a Fi?
            Thanks mate. Carb I'm afraid Will bleed the system and post a review here so that any future queries one-off queries has some answer.

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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            • Originally posted by sparks View Post
              If anybody could help me I just wanted to know the description of part they replaced.

              DJ201028 Relay(Interlocking)

              and what is the significance of this part??
              Hmm.. This is the same part which the PBK fellows had replaced in my bike in one of the numerous visits to the Bajaj Probiking Temple Yard

              I think it is the socket under the seat that hangs just above the ECU. This this thing going down, the bike will be completely dead except all the lights would work fine.

              This is what I had to do http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...1-08120444.jpg



              Praful Sir, I got a tiny issue with the bike.
              Whenever I ride hard and stop and kill the engine and try to restart in a few moments it refuses to start. But if push-started it starts and the same never occurs again until the next time I ride hard.

              I generally travel on highways and stick to them hence my speeds are a little on the higher side. I generally ride on these RPMs

              1st Gear : 6k RPM
              2nd Gear : 7k RPM
              3rd Gear : 10k RPM
              4th Gear : 10k RPM
              5th Gear : 7~9k RPM

              This had been happening for a long time, I just failed to notice. This came to my notice when I rode at 120-ies with a pillion of 80kgs and exactly the next day again when I was riding at 130-ies alone (kinda had got stuck till the good old antz came to my rescue). I have installed a FFE, had changed the starter motor few months back. The light comes on, fuel pump comes on and even shows the power flowing to the ignition motor but no sound. The Battery is good (new Amaron) and shows the correct volts (16.83)
              Help Please!
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              • Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
                Whenever I ride hard and stop and kill the engine and try to restart in a few moments it refuses to start. But if push-started it starts and the same never occurs again until the next time I ride hard.
                Utsav sir!

                If its starting with push starting then definitely something is wrong with the starter circuit. In all probability it is over heating!

                Riding hard and fast should have any effect on the starter. I have done many 600-1000 km/day rides, never had an issue like this.

                Ignition coil/starter motor, something in that circuit is getting over heated.

                After the fuel pump primes, what happens when you thumb the starter?

                PS: Have you replaced your wiring harness?


                EDIT: Today I made kheema out of my rear sprocket bearing!!

                My rear sprocket bearing...Or what's left of it!! LoL!






                I have to dig my bike's manual out from somewhere, but if someone has it out in the open. Can someone check what is the replacement interval for the rear sprocket bearing. It was some 20-30K IIRC.
                Last edited by Praful; 05-24-2012, 01:54 AM.
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                • Got my bike serviced at Auto Service, BLR. The high engine temperature issue is sorted out. It was due to the dusty sensor. Service was good as usual but non-availability of few spares . Exhaust shield, pilot lamp and rear break switch+spring set up all needed replacement in my bike and they weren't available. So was disappointed with that .

                  @Praful: Will post it once I reach home after my graveyard shift at work.

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                  • All the parts you mentioned are swappable with the Dts-i, its weird that the stock is not there, more so considering that these are frequently moving parts!

                    Manoj: Sorry din't get what were you going to post once you're home?

                    I'm spending a day at AutoService tomorrow. Need to get a few basics fixed in the bike, especially after yesterday's incident with the sprocket bearing!!
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                    • Originally posted by Praful View Post
                      All the parts you mentioned are swappable with the Dts-i, its weird that the stock is not there, more so considering that these are frequently moving parts!

                      Manoj: Sorry din't get what were you going to post once you're home?

                      I'm spending a day at AutoService tomorrow. Need to get a few basics fixed in the bike, especially after yesterday's incident with the sprocket bearing!!
                      Yeah that's the strangest thing. Thank god at least the accelerator and clutch cables were there! Was telling about the replacement interval of the rear sprocket bearing .

                      Ask for the above parts when you visit tomorrow. Not sure if it was really unavailable or the lady at the spares counter wasn't sure, as I went there at 2 which is right after their lunch hours.

                      P.S: Btw saw a red 220 at AS with mono shock at rear with fender eliminator , tyre hugger and P135's rear number plate holder. Looked cool. Not sure how functional it is though! It looked like the swing arm , mono shocks , rear alloys/tyres , tyre hugger were all from FZ.
                      Last edited by M@n()J; 05-24-2012, 06:20 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by Praful View Post

                        EDIT: Today I made kheema out of my rear sprocket bearing!!

                        My rear sprocket bearing...Or what's left of it!! LoL!






                        I have to dig my bike's manual out from somewhere, but if someone has it out in the open. Can someone check what is the replacement interval for the rear sprocket bearing. It was some 20-30K IIRC.
                        LOL! That was a pretty burned out bearing Praful, I hope you didn't push her off of a cliff

                        I guess the rear sprocket bearing doesn't have a definite time for changing it. All I've been told is it needs to be changed every 5k to 10k KMS and drive chain for every 5k Kms depending on the condition of the chain and sprocket.

                        When I asked to the PBK guys, of when to change the bearing, they told me there isn't definite KM to change the bearing, all it nedds to be changed is when you hear strange sound and rear wheel wobble and all that sort of stuff.

                        But then one guy at PBK (seemed a bit knowledgable though ) told me that the bearing interval was somewhere around 5k to 10k KMS. Now he or I might be wrong, but that's what I gathered from him.

                        Cheers!
                        VJ
                        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                        The girl said, 'NO!'


                        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                        THE END

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                        • Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                          LOL! That was a pretty burned out bearing Praful, I hope you didn't push her off of a cliff

                          I guess the rear sprocket bearing doesn't have a definite time for changing it. All I've been told is it needs to be changed every 5k to 10k KMS and drive chain for every 5k Kms depending on the condition of the chain and sprocket.

                          When I asked to the PBK guys, of when to change the bearing, they told me there isn't definite KM to change the bearing, all it nedds to be changed is when you hear strange sound and rear wheel wobble and all that sort of stuff.

                          But then one guy at PBK (seemed a bit knowledgable though ) told me that the bearing interval was somewhere around 5k to 10k KMS. Now he or I might be wrong, but that's what I gathered from him.

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Drive chain at 5K kms?

                          No man, at minimum with absolute no care also it should last you atleast 10-12K Kms. And on a average it should last atleast 20K +/-2 K Kms if take care of properly.

                          And I doubt the bearing needs to be replaced every 5K kms. Atleast I know I have not changed the bearing 17 times till date . I am sure its around the 15-20K mark at the least!

                          Originally posted by M@n()J View Post
                          P.S: Btw saw a red 220 at AS with mono shock at rear with fender eliminator , tyre hugger and P135's rear number plate holder. Looked cool. Not sure how functional it is though! It looked like the swing arm , mono shocks , rear alloys/tyres , tyre hugger were all from FZ.
                          Yes looks cool. Have my doubts how it handles though!
                          Last edited by Praful; 05-24-2012, 01:20 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by Praful View Post
                            Drive chain at 5K kms?

                            No man, at minimum with absolute no care also it should last you atleast 10-12K Kms. And on a average it should last atleast 20K +/-2 K Kms if take care of properly.

                            And I doubt the bearing needs to be replaced every 5K kms. Atleast I know I have not changed the bearing 17 times till date . I am sure its around the 15-20K mark at the least!
                            Even if it is 15-20k, I have done double on the one which came from factory. Time for a change?

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                            • Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                              Even if it is 15-20k, I have done double on the one which came from factory. Time for a change?

                              Q2. How do we 'Take Care of it'?
                              A1. If memory serves me right, and both me & bike are getting old here [exercised brain memory sectors after many moons ] I replaced the bearing only around 35-40K kms first. And post that somewhere around 60K.

                              A2. Its a wear and tear consumable. Just ensure its greased up at every major service you do.
                              Last edited by Praful; 05-24-2012, 01:21 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by Praful View Post
                                Ok, now I know a lot of people will come in and say their father and grandfather everyone used KnN without a problem. But I have seen too many people going back to stock due to a variety of reason coz after the initial fun factor KnN becomes more of an irritant.

                                Now, this is more for people like me who use their bike daily. If one rides only on weekends then the damage of KnN is quite minimized.

                                Firstly, with a KnN the bike needs to be in proper state of tune else most of the time it ends up running really lean and overheats the engine.

                                Next, KnN is a bigger filter and lets in more air say what you want but it lets in more dirt as well. So many poeple have had issues with their bore-piston after being on KnN for a long time.

                                Also, a KnN puts you in great risk in the rains where the exposed filter can suck in water into the engine, unless you have been smart and have left the filter inside the box!


                                Now don't get me wrong I am not saying KnN does not work. Its just that the tradeoffs are too much for the minor bump in throttle response. Unless one very very regular with maintenance and rides in relatively clean environs I'd not recommend a KnN ever.
                                The K&N conical filter you must be talking of... Now they have a custom made stock replacement filter made for pulsar 220, which fits in the airbox of the 220 and is shaped exactly like the stock one, so there is no chance of any dirt or water bypassing the filter. And funnily enough they say mileage increases, dont know how this could ever be possible as more air means more fuel consumption

                                And I fail to see how or why the engine could get damaged ? Any other possible reason besides heat ? (dust cant be an issue)

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