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**Praful** · 12-04-2008, 05:20 PM

1. You want to reduce the bounce of the shockers?
Have you tried setting the shockers to the hardest setting, it bounces a lot less then. For the ride being tough on pillions, you could try changing the foam for the rear seat to a softer one.

2. The 150/180 grab rail is a direct fit. The one on the Flame would be easy to fit too if the distance between the bolts is the same, which I am guessing would be the same.

3. I did not find any dual purpose tyres apart from the 120/90 Siracs. Vyde would by just a improved version of the Zapper-C. Sirac would be the only option if you looking for a dual purpose. And its very difficult to find anything for the front. There is a 100/80 for the front from IRC, but its more road oriented. And IMO downsizing the profile of the front tyre is bad idea!

**Aparajith** · 12-04-2008, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

2. The 150/180 grab rail is a direct fit. The one on the Flame would be easy to fit too if the distance between the bolts is the same, which I am guessing would be the same.

IIRC the RTR's grab rail is a direct-fit. Try it if u like it.

**nitrosatya** · 12-04-2008, 09:16 PM

Guys! can u plz guide me with K&N ?

Yes or no?

**ryder_boney** · 12-04-2008, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post

Guys! can u plz guide me with K&N ?

Yes or no?

mate,
k&n on p220 wont be much of use
i mean fo better performance you 've to chat up (remap) whole ECU

than translates, you wont be getting the worth of money
even i wont be suggesting it on any Indian Fi bike

**payeng** · 12-04-2008, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by Aparajith View Post

IIRC the RTR's grab rail is a direct-fit. Try it if u like it.

I once took a RTR grab rail from TVS Spares and tried to see if it fits my P220... I don't think that the RTR's grab rail fits on the P220

**burnrubbernotursoul** · 12-04-2008, 11:23 PM

I rode the RTR Fi extensively for around 200kms and was very impressed with the brakes. very responsive , great bite and loads of feed back. now brakes on my 220 feels hopelessly primitive

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My question is if i replace the stock master cylinder and the caliper-piston unit with that of the RTR will it provide the same kind of bite and feed back? i feel the RTR's unit should be a direct fit on the 220.what do u think guys??

**HydBiker** · 12-05-2008, 12:09 AM

what happened to the P220 guys suddenly?? speaking about RTR here?

**ryder_boney** · 12-05-2008, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by burnrubbernotursoul View Post

I rode the RTR Fi extensively for around 200kms and was very impressed with the brakes. very responsive , great bite and loads of feed back. now brakes on my 220 feels hopelessly primitive

.

My question is if i replace the stock master cylinder and the caliper-piston unit with that of the RTR will it provide the same kind of bite and feed back? i feel the RTR's unit should be a direct fit on the 220.what do u think guys??

u bet

i felt the same, when i rode the RTR
but i guess it is also related to bikes weight
since RTR is lighter, the same amount of brake applied will result in repaid slowdown than the heavier one.......

as of fitment there r certainly better known guys here........

**Praful** · 12-05-2008, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post

Guys! can u plz guide me with K&N ?

Yes or no?

K&N - Yes if you'll be riding in Track type clean conditions, otherwise whatever everyone says about its filtering property, nothing filters as good as foam.

You will get a boost (very very mild) after the KnN. But the cost to performance ratio is too bad. With the KnN a lot also depends on where/how you put. Accordingly the character changes in the top-end or mid-range.

But take my word, if you fix it you'll love it for a month. Afterwards you'll want to junk it for the irritating sound.

Originally posted by ryder_boney View Post

mate,
k&n on p220 wont be much of use
i mean fo better performance you 've to chat up (remap) whole ECU

than translates, you wont be getting the worth of money
even i wont be suggesting it on any Indian Fi bike

No re-mapping required dude, you need to make adjustments to the Airscrew alone!

Originally posted by burnrubbernotursoul View Post

My question is if i replace the stock master cylinder and the caliper-piston unit with that of the RTR will it provide the same kind of bite and feed back? i feel the RTR's unit should be a direct fit on the 220.what do u think guys??

Simple answer is No. You will not be able to replicate the feedback of the RTR.

Originally posted by HydBiker View Post

what happened to the P220 guys suddenly?? speaking about RTR here?

Well we just started now, the R15 guys have been discussing the 220 tyres/lights and whatnot for ages now....

**vinal_22** · 12-05-2008, 11:08 AM

@prafultripathy : Thanks a lot dude..

1. But setting the shockers to the hardest setting will again worsen things for pillion

.. Will check out the softer foam mod too.. What I really wanted is a new shock, an alternative

2. But the sad part is that, I am yet to meet a someone having a Flame

.. BTW, I saw one 220 with 150/180 grab rail and it didnt look too odd as I thought

3. Hmm.. So have to decide betweenn those two.. I am not interested in a broader tire.. Actually would love to go for a 110/90 rear

.. Any options??
But again 100/80 tier will have a height of 100 x 80% = 80 and we have 90 x 90% = 81.. Now that is not huge a diff??

@Aparajith : I think RTR's grab rail will look really bad on a 220, right??

**Praful** · 12-05-2008, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by vinal_22 View Post

@prafultripathy : Thanks a lot dude..

1. But setting the shockers to the hardest setting will again worsen things for pillion

.. Will check out the softer foam mod too.. What I really wanted is a new shock, an alternative

2. But the sad part is that, I am yet to meet a someone having a Flame

.. BTW, I saw one 220 with 150/180 grab rail and it didnt look too odd as I thought

3. Hmm.. So have to decide betweenn those two.. I am not interested in a broader tire.. Actually would love to go for a 110/90 rear

.. Any options??
But again 100/80 tier will have a height of 100 x 80% = 80 and we have 90 x 90% = 81.. Now that is not huge a diff??

@Aparajith : I think RTR's grab rail will look really bad on a 220, right??

You have to set the shocks depending on the road conditions that you plan on riding. Again if you are looking for pillion comfort, then the best bet would be get the seat foam changed. Coz, altering the shock can and most prolly will alter the dynamics of the bike. And again in all probability it would be for worse, so IMO avoid changing the shocks.

Stock tyres are 120/80, so changing over to a 110/80 will not pose any issues at all. I've heard nothing but rave reviews about the one from IRC. I'm planning to got for it if I get it at a proper price, everyone here in Bangalore are over-quoting it by huge margins.

The RTR's grab rails will look like cow's horns on the 220...

, but the 150/180 grab rails look pretty neat actually!!!

**Aparajith** · 12-05-2008, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

The RTR's grab rails will look like cow's horns on the 220...

, but the 150/180 grab rails look pretty neat actually!!!

It sure would look funny, but since Vinal wanted something more purposeful and did not want the 150/180 grab-rails, I suggested this. Its split rail with some purpose IMHO!

I thot(think) the R15's rails will not be compatible, else wud have suggested that!

**inflammable** · 12-05-2008, 01:12 PM

My Lavasa Trips Pics

Enjoy the pics...

3 guys... and 2 P220s. And the mountains.

**niranjanvaidya** · 12-05-2008, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by inflammable View Post

Enjoy the pics...

3 guys... and 2 P220s. And the mountains.

where are the pics?

**vinal_22** · 12-05-2008, 01:34 PM

@Aparajith : The lone purpose of changing the grab rail is that the current one is not good for my Cramster saddle bags

.. Anyway the current one is of no use as well..

@prafultripathy: Hmm.. I will get a new stock shock and get the rear seat foam changed

IMO, a 110/90 is better since a 110/80 will cut down the height.. Our being 120/80 gives a 96mm height and 110/90 gives 99.. But 110/80 will be just 88.. BTW how much was the IRC one quoted??

About 100/90 in my previous post was about the front tire you mentioned..

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