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  • Originally posted by pranay View Post
    Yes, I was prepared for difference in opinion. Well, I've ridden a gladiator, the new one. It was pretty smooth if you ask me. And I think every since the YBX, enticer, the Yamaha mills were very good, even with only four gears and 125 cee cees.

    Well, I'm glad if my report helped you in any way.!



    I definitely agree.

    @Praful: Man, CBR 150cc looks hideous.!!! I think you meant the CBR 125. Now, that looks like a miniature fireblade. Also, it goes like stink (140 kmph) !!

    Look at that filthy indicators.Yecckkk......By the way,this new one does look better than the 150.
    Finally someone agrees with me.Even without the fairing-joined-engine cover,the P220 looks muscular.
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    • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
      K&N - Yes if you'll be riding in Track type clean conditions, otherwise whatever everyone says about its filtering property, nothing filters as good as foam.

      You will get a boost (very very mild) after the KnN. But the cost to performance ratio is too bad. With the KnN a lot also depends on where/how you put. Accordingly the character changes in the top-end or mid-range.

      But take my word, if you fix it you'll love it for a month. Afterwards you'll want to junk it for the irritating sound.

      No re-mapping required dude, you need to make adjustments to the Airscrew alone!
      OK sir! i guess i will rather wait for a track type bike with much deeper sound and much more power

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      • ^^^ Aree bhai log y fighting on CBR 150 and 220 let the king come in Ninja 250r

        BTW, gave my bike today for throttle cleaning as even after setting CO for 3,4 times the bike used to give jerks during pick up ... lets see how it goes.

        @pranay : nice write up thr !
        Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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        • Originally posted by pranay View Post
          @Praful: Man, CBR 150cc looks hideous.!!! I think you meant the CBR 125. Now, that looks like a miniature fireblade. Also, it goes like stink (140 kmph) !!
          Well, I hideous would be too strong a word! Agreed the 125 looks much better than the 150, but even on the 150 its just the Headlight thats screwing up the looks.
          For me I'd prefer a design thats well balanced, meaning it looks good from all angles. Which is not the case with the 220, it has its good and bad sides.

          Anyways, personally speaking looks are quite secondary on my list important features for a bike.

          If it does 160Kmph, I'd love the bike even if it looked like the Libero.

          Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
          OK sir! i guess i will rather wait for a track type bike with much deeper sound and much more power
          Good Boy!

          Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post
          ^^^ Aree bhai log y fighting on CBR 150 and 220 let the king come in Ninja 250r

          BTW, gave my bike today for throttle cleaning as even after setting CO for 3,4 times the bike used to give jerks during pick up ... lets see how it goes.

          @pranay : nice write up thr !
          Amen to Ninja!

          You need to get the tuning right for the jerks to stop!
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          • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

            You need to get the tuning right for the jerks to stop!
            Hey Praful! The tuning as in the CO tuning? The sudden jerks aren't a clutch problem or something else?

            Also, does the 220 have a cat con in the exhaust? I remember a TVS dealer who said the RTR Fi doesn't need a CatCon since the emissions are taken care of, hence the different note of the exhaust.. same case with our 220?

            And bro, my rear shocks have lost the damping again. I can feel the difference. Off to the service center this Monday again. Tougher task is now to convince them that there is a problem with the shocks.


            Also, guys do you remember a load of 'Firsts' with the 220?


            First bike in India to employ a large 37 mm front fork for class leading vehicle dynamics

            First...India to use a unique damping method for damping high frequency vibrations in clip-on handlebars (patent applied for)

            First...India to incorporate a pinch clamp for front axle

            First...India to have an electronic speedo console which when keyed on goes through a self-diagnostic check

            First...India employing elliptical section swingarm on needle roller pivot bearings

            First...India to incorporate sculpted, compact, fairing mounted rear view mirrors

            First...India with sporty, sculpted two-piece grab rail for sleek big bike looks

            and it goes on so here
            Motorcyclist At Large: Bajaj Pulsar DTS-Fi: More images and specs
            I do remember realizing the 220 was way different from the 180s and 150s, initially. After a year of riding, do you guys still feel the difference of all those 'Firsts' that somehow distinguished the bike from the competition?


            Oh and one last grouse. The cone set. Replacement after 10000kms or else bad handling issues? Is that normal? Do other bike require a replacements like that? How much extra would it cost the maker to make the cone set last for 40k kms or so?
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            • One thing more:the Header pipe is totally rusted. will this be covered and replaced under warranty?


              " if WRONG is a T-shirt ; then wearing it inside out doesn't make it RIGHT "

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              • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post



                Amen to Ninja!

                You need to get the tuning right for the jerks to stop!
                Amen !!!

                well in my case the jerks are all gone now and my ride is back to normal, infact its much smoother even at higher RPMs
                With one good news came a BAD news ... The PBK SC do have facility wherein u can leave ur helmet thr till the bike is serviced . and when i went there today eve to collect my bike .. MY HELMET WAS GONE
                Thankfully it wasnt my fastrack but Ninja 1K ka tha .... will talk to manager thr tomorrow.


                @theslayer : tuning is related with CO, petrol u use/purity of petrol.My bikes done 14K and throttle cleaning was pending.

                Bout rear shock how many KMs are u done ? if ur done 1K check the pressure in shocks mine was 0.
                Abut cone set it has to be replaces at 2nd paid service 14.5 to 15K ... and if ur bike handles well then no need to change it but ideally it shld be changed.
                Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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                • Yes this is a good observation. But let me tell you such type of fitting is found on many bikes. Even my bike's fairing is unevenly fitted in some places! The remedy for this is fitting rubber pieces in the open spaces. My bike had fallen on left side and as a result the fairing has dislodged a bit!

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                  • Originally posted by burnrubbernotursoul View Post


                    One thing more:the Header pipe is totally rusted. will this be covered and replaced under warranty?

                    any thoughts on this guys?

                    @Nitro: thanks for the comment. checked the fairing again, one of the screw was loose because the bolt was torn off from the rubber covering. replaced the rubber covering with a metal washer. the sound has died down but my header pipe is a headache
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                    • Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
                      Even my bike's fairing is unevenly fitted in some places! The remedy for this is fitting rubber pieces in the open spaces. My bike had fallen on left side and as a result the fairing has dislodged a bit!
                      @ Satya : When did ur bike fall..!!

                      @ burnrubbernotursoul : I would suggest dont fix those rubber pieces....rather get those bolts tightened by a good and skilled mech...! You can go to the PBK at Kothrud(if you are based in Pune otherwise i dont know )... they do a pretty good job..!!

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                      • hey guys today while cleaning my bike
                        i spotted some stains of some kinna liquid releasing from exhaust can reverts
                        here r pic.

                        any buddy got any idea what creates Dicky stains ????

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                        • Originally posted by theslayer View Post
                          Hey Praful! The tuning as in the CO tuning? The sudden jerks aren't a clutch problem or something else?

                          Also, does the 220 have a cat con in the exhaust? I remember a TVS dealer who said the RTR Fi doesn't need a CatCon since the emissions are taken care of, hence the different note of the exhaust.. same case with our 220?

                          And bro, my rear shocks have lost the damping again. I can feel the difference. Off to the service center this Monday again. Tougher task is now to convince them that there is a problem with the shocks.
                          Yep tuning as in the CO tuning!
                          Sudden jerks could be a clutch problem too, but that would been the clutch is fried real bad.

                          The difference between the 220 and 200 exhaust is the cat-con, AFAIK the 220 exhaust does not have a cat con!

                          Get the pressure of the rear shock checked again, if its loosing pressure then you might have a valve problem instead of a shock's problem.

                          Originally posted by burnrubbernotursoul View Post
                          This is the gap. Can you pls check on your bike and tell if its normal.

                          One thing more:the Header pipe is totally rusted. will this be covered and replaced under warranty?

                          Those gaps are OK, if you are facing vibes from the fairing, ask your PBK to remove the fairing and insert double sided tape in the bits where there is space between two plastic pieces. But it won't hold for long if you ride higher up in the rev range. Mine is luckily holding well for the past 6K kms now.

                          About the rust on the header pipe holder, it is not covered in warranty. But get it changed IMO.

                          Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post
                          Abut cone set it has to be replaces at 2nd paid service 14.5 to 15K ... and if ur bike handles well then no need to change it but ideally it shld be changed.
                          Cone set change is actually directly proportional to the quality of roads that one rides on.

                          Ride on bad roads, change it early. Ride on good roads, change it late .

                          Mine had a change at 20K.

                          Originally posted by ryder_boney View Post
                          hey guys today while cleaning my bike
                          i spotted some stains of some kinna liquid releasing from exhaust can reverts
                          here r pic.

                          any buddy got any idea what creates Dicky stains ????
                          Don't worry too much about it, its normal. But if you see black formation around the rivets, then its time to change your exhaust.

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                          Got my bike back from the service centre after it was lying there for close to two weeks for repair.

                          I know for sure that the new 220's exhaust aren't any different internally, but man the new exhaust bike sounds so...Roary.

                          And, i'm definitely changing my tyres this coming weekend. Has anyone run these tyres for 24.5K???
                          I'll be sticking with the same Zapper FS up front and will be changing over to the Zapper Vyde for the rear. Going for this only as
                          A. I din't wanna spend too much
                          B. Din't want to change the sizing/profile too much.

                          I'm lovin it..... (for a change )

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                          • @Praful: Sorry for being naive and asking you this, but why was your bike at the service center for two weeks!? And why this sudden exahaust change? Is it because of the rivets that the 'older' P-220 had?
                            :)

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                            • Originally posted by Aryan View Post
                              @Praful: Sorry for being naive and asking you this, but why was your bike at the service center for two weeks!? And why this sudden exahaust change? Is it because of the rivets that the 'older' P-220 had?
                              Had a small crash! So it was lying there for repairs, and thankfully this time the BAL svc center had all parts in stock. And thus the exhaust change!
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                              • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                                Had a small crash! So it was lying there for repairs, and thankfully this time the BAL svc center had all parts in stock. And thus the exhaust change!
                                Oh alright. Thanks for the prompt reply!
                                :)

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