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  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

    Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post
    Hey Sorry Ravi...My intention was not to offend you. We all are here to help each other, are not we part of the same biking brotherhood
    Lol, not offended at all. I left it to PSR sir after seeing the mods. I am no expert in this regard.
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      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

        Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post
        Yes, The Tensioner is making noise and I do recognize it. It need to be changed.

        I do ride at sane speeds, but my concern is the bike shouldn't shut off at higher speeds as well.
        Apologies, I forgot to mention all the modifications done in my ZMA.
        RC Big bore (40k kms)
        RC Free Flow exhaust (10k kms)
        RC Racing CDI (20k kms)
        Semiflat 33mm Carb (20k kms)
        Freeflow Universal Air Filter (10k kms)
        RC Racing Camshaft (1k kms)

        Neither I am kidding nor any of the facts mentioned by me are incorrect. I am sure I don't have the rev limiter as I have touched 10k rpm as well.
        @PSR Sir, You and me share the same date of Birth (not year though ). Please provide your expert inputs!!!
        You can always get the problem sorted out with the person who modified your bike.... What is the engine oil you use,? and what does it look like after 600 Kms ? how often do you top up ? what is the oil change interval ? and how much oil is left in crank when you drain it ? why change the CDI when the stock one is the best ? A semi flat carb of 33mm ? is it CV or normal type ? what is the lift of the CAM ? .. Many operating parameters of the engine have been changed and hence unable to guide you ...
        My guess is your bore might have gone Oval .....
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        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

          Originally posted by psr View Post
          You can always get the problem sorted out with the person who modified your bike.... What is the engine oil you use,? and what does it look like after 600 Kms ? how often do you top up ? what is the oil change interval ? and how much oil is left in crank when you drain it ? why change the CDI when the stock one is the best ? A semi flat carb of 33mm ? is it CV or normal type ? what is the lift of the CAM ? .. Many operating parameters of the engine have been changed and hence unable to guide you ...
          My guess is your bore might have gone Oval .....
          I use Motul 300v and change it in every 2000kms or max 2300kms. Right now I am running on HH oil+ 3M engine oil additive which svc guys provide.The svc guys changed it by mistake when I gave my bike for servicing last time. I have run for around 1200kms and will change it again to Motul 300V today. The oil looked good when I checked it after 500kms. When I change my engine oil, normally I get 85-90% oil left in crank when I drain it.

          The carb is a Mikuni 33mm CV carb which the RC guys provide. I was running very rich for almost 6 months after which I got it checked by RC and adjusted the carb needle.When I checked my spark plug last week, I thought I am still running bit rich. I will again get it checked.

          I changed the CDI as the RC CDI revs till 11k RPM effortlessly. I have touched 10k rpm in all gears other than 1st and 5th.

          I don't know about the lift of the CAM. I just couldn't control my urge after I crossed 9.1k rpm and changed my CAM as well. I have had comparatively better experience with RC and RC parts till date which is also one of the reason to go for the CAM.

          I am using the big bore from last 40k kms without any issues. As it is not a stock bore, it might be the culprit. How can I check it?
          None of the svc guys will ride the bike in 120+ for 2-3 kms and check if it is having any issues.

          As mentioned, I suspect the bike electricals or coil to be blamed. Last time I faced similar issue and there was some problem with spark plug and wirings.

          I will go and talk to the RC guys for sure. Will post the results soon.
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          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

            The spark plug cap can also restrict the top end. change it with a new one ...if possible get one without resistor in it,since it will add a little more fire energy .your upgrade must have been 10cc more to 233 cc...
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            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

              Originally posted by psr View Post
              The spark plug cap can also restrict the top end. change it with a new one ...if possible get one without resistor in it,since it will add a little more fire energy .your upgrade must have been 10cc more to 233 cc...
              I have changed the spark plug cap before a year in svc as it was faulty. But I haven't changed the cable. From where can I get one cap without resistor?
              Yes, the Bore upgrade was just 10cc more to 233cc.
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                Amit, did you notice any oil consumption? Whats the level of oil when you drain? If your bike doesn't consume oil, and if there is no smoke from exhaust at 9k rpm, may be your bore kit is doing fine.
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                • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                  Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post
                  I have changed the spark plug cap before a year in svc as it was faulty. But I haven't changed the cable. From where can I get one cap without resistor?
                  Yes, the Bore upgrade was just 10cc more to 233cc.
                  Details of bore upgrade pls..Amit

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                  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                    Amit, did you notice any oil consumption? Whats the level of oil when you drain? If your bike doesn't consume oil, and if there is no smoke from exhaust at 9k rpm, may be your bore kit is doing fine.
                    Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                    Details of bore upgrade pls..Amit

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                    Thats True. The oil consumption is not abnormal. Please find the details in my earlier post. There is no black or white smoke from exhaust as well. I also think the bore kit is doing well. I am suspecting any coils or electrical fault more than the clutch plates. I am facing issues with my HL as well. The battery dies very frequently and now my lower beam is not working

                    Anyway I am going to change the clutch/pressure plates, cam chain and tensioner and battery today. Any idea which HL bulb will give me better illumination with minimal impact on battery life, philips vision+100 x-treme or OSRAM NB?

                    I have used 6000k/4300k HIDs, projectors, fog lamps and what not! I don't want to try any of those now.
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                    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                      Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post
                      Thats True. The oil consumption is not abnormal. Please find the details in my earlier post. There is no black or white smoke from exhaust as well. I also think the bore kit is doing well. I am suspecting any coils or electrical fault more than the clutch plates. I am facing issues with my HL as well. The battery dies very frequently and now my lower beam is not working

                      Anyway I am going to change the clutch/pressure plates, cam chain and tensioner and battery today. Any idea which HL bulb will give me better illumination with minimal impact on battery life, philips vision+100 x-treme or OSRAM NB?

                      I have used 6000k/4300k HIDs, projectors, fog lamps and what not! I don't want to try any of those now.
                      I have read your previous post, but you were not clear. Is the oil level within limits when you drain the oil? If its in limits, thats fine. Clutch plates are not related to the engine shut-off problem at higher rpms. The clutch plates that come with the bike run for at least 50-60k kms if you maintain the bike properly. As PSR suggested, consult RC for this problem.

                      As for the battery issue, how old is the battery? You need to check the voltage of the battery to check if it is the culprit. Low beam not working - maybe the low-beam filament is fused, do a visual inspection.

                      You can use either Philips Extreme Vision 55/60W or Osram NBP 55/60w. If you are changing battery, go for Amaron Mintenance-free 9A battery. You need to do a little juggad to fit the 9A battery into 7A compartment.
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                      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                        Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                        I have read your previous post, but you were not clear. Is the oil level within limits when you drain the oil? If its in limits, thats fine. Clutch plates are not related to the engine shut-off problem at higher rpms. The clutch plates that come with the bike run for at least 50-60k kms if you maintain the bike properly. As PSR suggested, consult RC for this problem.

                        As for the battery issue, how old is the battery? You need to check the voltage of the battery to check if it is the culprit. Low beam not working - maybe the low-beam filament is fused, do a visual inspection.

                        You can use either Philips Extreme Vision 55/60W or Osram NBP 55/60w. If you are changing battery, go for Amaron Mintenance-free 9A battery. You need to do a little juggad to fit the 9A battery into 7A compartment.
                        Yes, the oil levels are in limits when I drain the oil.
                        I am already having a 9A battery with jugaad , but its not Amaron Maintenance free. I am using the battery for last 2 years.
                        Low beam filament is fine. I had hit a few potholes badly after which it refuses to work
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                        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                          Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post
                          Yes, the oil levels are in limits when I drain the oil.
                          I am already having a 9A battery with jugaad , but its not Amaron Maintenance free. I am using the battery for last 2 years.
                          Low beam filament is fine. I had hit a few potholes badly after which it refuses to work
                          You need to check the wiring then. The low beam supply wire might be loose somewhere. First make sure your wiring is fine before replacing the battery. Or, if you want to replace the battery to MF, go for Amaron and also check the wiring too.
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                          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                            Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post
                            Yes, the oil levels are in limits when I drain the oil.
                            I am already having a 9A battery with jugaad , but its not Amaron Maintenance free. I am using the battery for last 2 years.
                            Low beam filament is fine. I had hit a few potholes badly after which it refuses to work
                            Amaron has 5 years warranty, you can return it and get a new one.

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                            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                              Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                              You need to check the wiring then. The low beam supply wire might be loose somewhere. First make sure your wiring is fine before replacing the battery. Or, if you want to replace the battery to MF, go for Amaron and also check the wiring too.
                              Yeah, wiring was loose. Got it fixed. Suspecting issues with the ignition coil, will get it checked.

                              Thanks everyone for the help!
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                              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                                Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post
                                Yeah, wiring was loose. Got it fixed. Suspecting issues with the ignition coil, will get it checked.

                                Thanks everyone for the help!
                                Karizma Ignition coil does not fail easily.....I feel it could be an issue elsewhere....more likely mechanical... Best thing to do is to get it attended by the person who did the mods....
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