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**ashwinprakas** · 10-03-2011, 11:58 PM

Are minor oil leaks common in bikes... I.e when ripped to WOT.???

**Pinaki** · 10-04-2011, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by MAXzma View Post

If you ride only inside the city, say for a few kms a day, go for a good 10w30 oil. Haven't used any 10w30 except the HH oil so can't comment. If its for somewhat long distances and touring, 20w40 would be much better. I felt the Motul 3100 20w40 to be really good. Costed 200 bucks for the litre and it was definitely worth it!

Motul 3000 4T plus you meant ? Yes it's good ! you'll see this humble 20w40 mineral oil outperform your present 10w40 semi-synthetic in the long run

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Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Today morning fired the bike up as usual. And everything went fine... Did 110~115Kmph with pillion. Even the pillion said the bike's almost retained its original glory. But in the evening during the ride back, the bike felt rough, as in very rough. The bike vibe'd hard after passing the 4k mark, even the pillion felt the vibes all the way back to the saree guard.
I guess the climate temperature has some play in the above matter. BTW am currently running on 10W30 HH oil out by SVC during my last service 400kms back. So any ideas guys???
And by the time I reached back home, the bike was chil chilling real hard.

What you describe sounds like an overheated engine . Like psr said .. definitely try 20w40 mineral .

Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

Sir, these leaking issues, wherever I read about them, get me worried.

Never buy a CI bullet

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Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

Can you sum up the best oil for me? The original HH oil last for some hundred kms (say, 500) but after then I lose the same feel

Motul 300V or Motul 3100 or Shell AX7? Or anything better?

In kolkata , where I also am , you'd do mucho better with 20w40 mineral oil from gulf/motul/shell . The 10w30 would give you a little better cold starts when it gets really chilly this winter (for 15 days or so) in kolkata

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**ashwinprakas** · 10-04-2011, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

Motul 3000 4T plus you meant ? Yes it's good ! you'll see this humble 20w40 mineral oil outperform your present 10w40 semi-synthetic in the long run

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What you describe sounds like an overheated engine . Like psr said .. definitely try 20w40 mineral .

Never buy a CI bullet

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Yup... So its 20w40 again.... And am getting abit tired of this cat mouse game, SVC puts in 10w30, I drain and put 20w40... and VICE VERSA....

BTW Sir, can you answer my recent post regarding the oil leaks.

**Pinaki** · 10-04-2011, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Yup... So its 20w40 again.... And am getting a bit tired of this cat mouse game, SVC puts in 10w30, I drain and put 20w40... and VICE VERSA....

BTW Sir, can you answer my recent post regarding the oil leaks.

Why don't you ask them to skip the oil change and do it yourself later

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Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Are minor oil leaks common in bikes... I.e when ripped to WOT.???

No , it's not common . Motorcycles already have very small oil sumps , and it depends on this small volume of oil for many vital functions at the same time . General Lubrication , cooling-circulation , transmission-oil , wet-clutch functioning , internal bearings lubrication , piston sealing etc etc . It's not good to lose oil like that . Modern motorcycle engines have no technical excuse to leak oil in any way and I consider it a defect if it does , be it with mineral or synthetic oil . Other than the bother to remember to top-up regularly .. and the constant risk of a seized engine if you forget or unable to by the circumstances

. This risk is not theoretical , by the number seized engine from low oil at my mechanics .

**ashwinprakas** · 10-04-2011, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

Why don't you ask them to skip the oil change and do it yourself later

. No , it's not common . Motorcycles already have very small oil sumps , and it depends on this small volume of oil for many vital functions at the same time . General Lubrication , cooling-circulation , transmission-oil , wet-clutch functioning , internal bearings lubrication , piston sealing etc etc . It's not good to lose oil like that . Modern motorcycle engines have no technical excuse to leak oil in any way and I consider it a defect if it does , be it with mineral or synthetic oil . Other than the bother to remember to top-up regularly .. and the constant risk of a seized engine if you forget or unable to by the circumstances

. This risk is not theoretical , by the number seized engine from low oil at my mechanics .

They dont skip sir, they say that they'll have to keep prefect records of the bike and so they wont skip the oil change.

I feel like loosing oil, cause once is a while I find greasy residue near the head portion of my bike. Theres not much, but enough to attract dust. And there has'nt ever been any considerable oil loss in my bike till date, cause I frequently check the dipstick and the levels always the same, even after running upto 2k kms with the same lame oil.

**Pinaki** · 10-04-2011, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

They dont skip sir, they say that they'll have to keep prefect records of the bike and so they wont skip the oil change.

I feel like loosing oil, cause once is a while I find greasy residue near the head portion of my bike. Theres not much, but enough to attract dust. And there has'nt ever been any considerable oil loss in my bike till date, cause I frequently check the dipstick and the levels always the same, even after running upto 2k kms with the same lame oil.

Well, if they have been so particular about keeping the perfect records , point out the dust accumulation at the head gasket and ask them to fix it under warranty, perfectly

. Cause if there is a even a minor weakness in the head gasket .. be assured it shall become leaky in time right there .

**acs1207** · 10-04-2011, 01:38 AM

OT: World's fastest Indian

Hi Guys ...Just check out this site ...and beg or borrow ( now , I can't advocate you to steal ,. can I ??)

the film called 'The World's Fasest Indian " !!! It's one heck of a movie . . .

DUDEWORLD - Burt Munro and The World's Fastest Indian

Burt Munro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**sunny_** · 10-04-2011, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

In kolkata , where I also am , you'd do mucho better with 20w40 mineral oil from gulf/motul/shell . The 10w30 would give you a little better cold starts when it gets really chilly this winter (for 15 days or so) in kolkata

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Point noted.
OT: Sir, according to you which is the best HH authorised Service Centre(large workshop, trusted and experienced mechanics possessing good knowledge) in Kolkata, specially for Karizma?

**Pinaki** · 10-04-2011, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

Point noted.
OT: Sir, according to you which is the best HH authorised Service Centre(large workshop, trusted and experienced mechanics possessing good knowledge) in Kolkata, specially for Karizma?

You have me completely stumped with that question

.. the two I have used Sitala Motors (near naktala-garia) ii) amit motors (near tollygunge phari) are useless jokers . Particularly avoid Sitala , I've witnessed them ruthlessly fleece an helpless ZMR owner from outside kolkata, whose bike had broken down en-route to here .

**vineeth aredath** · 10-04-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

If its white, then that means its lean. Lets wait for PSR sir's reply.

thanks ashwin for that prompt replay

Originally posted by psr View Post

Your engine is running lean,and the ground electrode shows that the engine is running hot ....note the greyish color ...

as expected, isn't it??

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

Over-lean and hot engine , plus lots of slow-riding . In traffic ?

sir, very less riding in traffic, i've covered around 480kms with this plug in which 90% of them were highway ripping, but your correct to some extend i guess because on that particular day on which i replaced the plug, i did some 10-15kms in tight traffic.

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

To me, it looks similar to my plug by looking at the pic. I see there is black coating on the outer ring suggests, dry and defintely not lean.

well i don't think am running stoich here. first of all am with a pilot which size ~1/3 to that of a stock bike, some what similar condition with the main jet as well!

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

Vineeth:- How long have you run with this?

close to 500kms(480 to be precise) / one month.

**sunny_** · 10-04-2011, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

You have me completely stumped with that question

.. the two I have used Sitala Motors (near naktala-garia) ii) amit motors (near tollygunge phari) are useless jokers . Particularly avoid Sitala , I've witnessed them ruthlessly fleece an helpless ZMR owner from outside kolkata, whose bike had broken down en-route to here .

Actually, till now I've been visiting to Balaji Motors, near IIMC Joka all the way from Liluah, Howrah just for the sake of satisfaction 'cause once serviced in my locality and big disappointment

So, since then everytime I think of going to the best in Kolkata(distance doesn't matter) but finally end up going to the same Balaji Motors.

**sunny_** · 10-04-2011, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

Hi Guys ...Just check out this site ...and beg or borrow ( now , I can't advocate you to steal ,. can I ??)

the film called 'The World's Fasest Indian " !!! It's one heck of a movie . . .

DUDEWORLD - Burt Munro and The World's Fastest Indian

Burt Munro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gone through the articles

But I still wonder that in 1920, a V twin engine and all stuff was in an Indian bike

**SriramEfunds** · 10-04-2011, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

Gone through the articles

But I still wonder that in 1920, a V twin engine and all stuff was in an Indian bike

The bike belongs to Indian Motorcycle Co., USA and not manufactured in India or by Indians.

**kaynmantis** · 10-04-2011, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

Gone through the articles

But I still wonder that in 1920, a V twin engine and all stuff was in an Indian bike

Thats Indian as in Apache, Comanche, Aparaho etc. Natives of America. Blame Columbus for the confusion

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**SriramEfunds** · 10-04-2011, 03:01 PM

Guys, I need help.

I'm planning to do a 1600km round trip also touching Waynad this month. I'm not able to find spares easily in Chennai.
Can someone help me getting basic spares like clutch, accelerator and sprocket kit? PM me the details.

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