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  • #9706
    @Psr sir and all xbhians

    i went to SVC to rectify my ZMA's knocking sound and after testing they said bike's rocker arm or piston block needs a replacement i am really disappointed by these bike , its just done 1342kms on odo and is 6 months old ,i dont ride it much as am out station all the time, and also a sane rider and never crossed 80kmphr. its 2011 model...
    @sir what might have caused the problem?? they said it will be replaced under warrenty

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    • #9707
      Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post
      @Psr sir and all xbhians

      i went to SVC to rectify my ZMA's knocking sound and after testing they said bike's rocker arm or piston block needs a replacement i am really disappointed by these bike , its just done 1342kms on odo and is 6 months old ,i dont ride it much as am out station all the time, and also a sane rider and never crossed 80kmphr. its 2011 model...
      @sir what might have caused the problem?? they said it will be replaced under warrenty
      There seem to be Rocker arm,Cam and bore Piston problems with ZMA/ZMR.Either the incidences have increased or now with better exposure it is getting identified..Whatever the reason be, present ZMA/ZMR of one year or less seem to have suffered due to poor Material quality.
      Whenever a vehicle is to be parked for some time, one of the most important thing to do is to open the spark plug and pour 20ml of engine oil and kick the bike a few times to lubricate the engine.This will prevent rust formation in the bore ,Valves and valve seat etc.,and save it from seizure, and consequently when starting will put less strain on other moving parts.
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • #9708
        Originally posted by psr View Post
        There seem to be Rocker arm,Cam and bore Piston problems with ZMA/ZMR.Either the incidences have increased or now with better exposure it is getting identified..Whatever the reason be, present ZMA/ZMR of one year or less seem to have suffered due to poor Material quality.
        Whenever a vehicle is to be parked for some time, one of the most important thing to do is to open the spark plug and pour 20ml of engine oil and kick the bike a few times to lubricate the engine.This will prevent rust formation in the bore ,Valves and valve seat etc.,and save it from seizure, and consequently when starting will put less strain on other moving parts.
        I cannot comment on the others, but I remember HH advertising about auto cam chain tensioner in ZMR. Can you tell me whether this really works?
        Since ZMA has the cam chain tensioner prob., if the part is interchangeable then it might be a big relief!
        Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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        • #9709
          Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
          I cannot comment on the others, but I remember HH advertising about auto cam chain tensioner in ZMR. Can you tell me whether this really works?
          Since ZMA has the cam chain tensioner prob., if the part is interchangeable then it might be a big relief!
          ZMR's MF Tensioner can be used in ZMA too.I am using it in my bike only 420rs.

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          • #9710
            Originally posted by Akshaysharma View Post
            @aneesh
            bro by looking at your bike pic's i think you have got it painted because in back side cowl some area is looking dark while some are lite or its due to light effect.
            Bike is covered with dust and then light effect from Digi Cam.

            Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
            All that psr said ... plus 20w40 oil being thicker than 10w30 will cause better seal between cylinder & piston and thereby less blow-by gases . (You can readily feel the better compression achieved , which is why I also recommend 20w50 for old abused engines run for more than 100K kms ). Blow-by is the major source of contaminants in the engine , including carbon , sulphuric acid etc deadly things for the engine & bearings . Moreover the better lubrication & cushioning effect of the thicker oil on bearings and metal-to-metal contact areas will mean less wear and less metal particles . Less heat stress too . Less degradation owing to lower proportion of viscosity improver additives . All contributing to your oil getting dirty much much slower than the thin oil .
            Now every thing is clear,Thanks bro. Very detailed info.

            Also keep in mind that while the dirtyness(for want of a better word) of the oil is not evident on inspecting a few drops from the dip-stick , when you drain it at 2k kms , it'll be quite dirty as well viewed as the whole volume .
            Yeah,I didnt thought about it.

            Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post
            they said it will be replaced under warrenty
            Yes,it will get it replaced for free under warranty.

            Originally posted by psr View Post
            Whatever the reason be, present ZMA/ZMR of one year or less seem to have suffered due to poor Material quality.
            +1^^^


            Whenever a vehicle is to be parked for some time, one of the most important thing to do is to open the spark plug and pour 20ml of engine oil and kick the bike a few times to lubricate the engine.This will prevent rust formation in the bore ,Valves and valve seat etc.,and save it from seizure, and consequently when starting will put less strain on other moving parts.
            Thanks for this info.

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            • #9711
              How much for 2005-2009 ZMAs ?

              I have seen few adds in classifieds for ZMAs (all +20K) around my area. What shall be the price guide for 2005 to 2009 Models in Bangalore, assuming 8k usage per annum ? I have seen rather ridiculous pricing here in bangalore (e.g 2006 ZMA for 65k ?) so not sure how much to offer ?

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              • #9712
                Originally posted by psr View Post
                There seem to be Rocker arm,Cam and bore Piston problems with ZMA/ZMR.Either the incidences have increased or now with better exposure it is getting identified..Whatever the reason be, present ZMA/ZMR of one year or less seem to have suffered due to poor Material quality.
                Whenever a vehicle is to be parked for some time, one of the most important thing to do is to open the spark plug and pour 20ml of engine oil and kick the bike a few times to lubricate the engine.This will prevent rust formation in the bore ,Valves and valve seat etc.,and save it from seizure, and consequently when starting will put less strain on other moving parts.
                @sir
                what might have caused these problem?? SVC said its a manufacturing fault ?? shall i shoot mail to hero moto corp??? m really feed up of these bike

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                • #9713
                  Originally posted by shubhamAT View Post
                  I have seen few adds in classifieds for ZMAs (all +20K) around my area. What shall be the price guide for 2005 to 2009 Models in Bangalore, assuming 8k usage per annum ? I have seen rather ridiculous pricing here in bangalore (e.g 2006 ZMA for 65k ?) so not sure how much to offer ?

                  here in mumbai one of my friend got 2006 zma 25k done and modified as ZMA-R for 34k fitted with K&N filter nd TVS crusader 130 rear tyre.

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                  • #9714
                    Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post
                    @sir
                    what might have caused these problem?? SVC said its a manufacturing fault ?? shall i shoot mail to hero moto corp??? m really feed up of these bike
                    Random manufacturing failures are there in ZMA/ZMR ..just like other bikes....The rocker arm,Cam shaft, bore and Piston are the ones that fail,and after replacement seem to settle down well....My own bike is a pre-owned 2007 model,which I bought in March 2011...I had driven the bike under all conditions,of wet ,dry ,and hot, and faced CDI loose contact,non availability of timely spares, Carb slide getting stuck etc. But with the knowledge I had gained ,was able to help others here ..
                    Overall the ZMA is a reliable bike with good ergonomics,and performance.I now use it inside City and also for short 200 Kms trips...
                    You can write to HH expressing what you have gone through ,and make them answerable for the problems you have faced, since it is an Engine problem..
                    Last edited by psr; 11-10-2011, 10:16 PM.
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • #9715
                      Originally posted by curse View Post
                      ^^Thanks for the pic,but still not very clear,if possible take one with a digital camera next time.Have been searching this for a long time.
                      Originally posted by psr View Post
                      Thanks for image , you can use Photoshop to clear the picture.
                      I was elated when I saw the pic when I browsed from my phone - Totally let down when I tried to download it from my comp in the eve... .
                      Would be very thankful if someone can forward it to me !!!
                      sigpic

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                      • #9716
                        Originally posted by selvin rebz View Post
                        here in mumbai one of my friend got 2006 zma 25k done and modified as ZMA-R for 34k fitted with K&N filter nd TVS crusader 130 rear tyre.
                        Thanks selvin. I wish i get a similar deal.

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                        • #9717
                          Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                          I was elated when I saw the pic when I browsed from my phone - Totally let down when I tried to download it from my comp in the eve... .
                          Would be very thankful if someone can forward it to me !!!
                          Sorry i deleted the post as the picture is not that much clear & as suggested by psr sir i tried to make some photoshop work on it , but no result , so next time i will try to snap a clear image if i get chance & post it

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                          • #9718
                            Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                            It is for riding leisurely along at 40kmph constantly & without any traffic with clean petrol in cool & squeaky clean countries like Japan I think . Gulf came up with this particular info much after the oil came to the market , right after HeroHonda started to recommend their oil for 6000kms . Anyway, don't try it .

                            riding leisurely along at 40kmph constantly                             no way I'm gonna try this method

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                            • #9719
                              What Amp fuse should i use for my windtones? 12V. 5A Horns,I was planning to get the fuse box of Spendor or glamour and put the blue 15a stock fuse,What do you think guys?

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                              • #9720
                                Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                                What Amp fuse should i use for my windtones? 12V. 5A Horns,I was planning to get the fuse box of Spendor or glamour and put the blue 15a stock fuse,What do you think guys?
                                Try 10 Amps first..if it keeps blowing often switch to 15A though safety will be compromised.
                                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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