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  • ok some off topic but today a kmc truck hit a small boy crossing the road near our home and he was admitted to hospital and the mob burnt the truck in anger.The traffic signal does not give even a sec time for the people to cross the lane thus resulting in ppl running across to get to opposite site despite many request to the police to give some time duration for people to cross but in vain.The truck driver was driving recklessly and ended up hitting the boy.
    I am posting this as I want all my fellow members out here to drive in decent speed and keep control of your machine and would even request to pray for the small boy for a recovery.
    A Pray to God can make a huge difference so just take out a minute time and pray for his recovery.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by shhbz; 11-09-2011, 01:14 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
      Already Accepted.
      Sent an request for access. Blumarine005.

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      • Originally posted by psr View Post



        Whats the O rings meant for?
        More questions:
        1. Does riding in low speed at higher gears(in case when engine knocks at low rpms) imply that sparks are occurring after top dead centre?
        NO ...If it is after TDC there will be no Knocking..If it happens before TDC only you get knocking
        2. Is it more harmful than redlining the engine? (As Aneesh bro or Ashwin bro stated that a car mech told this to his mom) If yes, then how?
        Red lining and knocking both are Harmful to engine..no comparison which is better than the other...But knocking can lead to severe strain on the con rod big and small ends as well as crankshaft....redlining will also strain these parts..but proper lube flow can prevent disaster.
        proper what? are we(frequent redliners) supposed to do it manually at regular intervals?

        3. "Ignition advance map region" Sir please elaborate this point or any link will be helpful.
        Every ICE running on Petrol has a spark plug and a control on spark timing..for instance at 1,500 rpm if it takes a piston 1 sec to complete one up and down movement, at 6,000 rpm this will be at 1/4th time or 0.25 sec...so essentially the time for combustion is becoming less with more RPM...so in order to compensate for this the timing happening at say 10 degree BTDC will be advanced to 20 degree BTDC to have early ignition and proper combustion ..this then is the Ignition map advancing..the ignition time with respect to TDC will be varied at various RPM to best suit the engine's efficiency.
        Yippeeee.. Now it is clear somewhat.
        Can we tweak it? Is it programmed or controlled by some "fixed" electronic system?
        I'm glad that I'm a part of this thread and I joined xBhp and I'm active here in a period of time when rate of knowledge flow is more than that of the river near where I stay, the Ganges.

        @Aneesh bro, tank and panels of Karizma R, dashboard and rear shocks of old Karizma and spark plug cap of Karizma R 2011? :P Lot of mods there ahaan..
        Last edited by sunny_; 11-09-2011, 02:40 AM.

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        • Ffe

          Can I install ONLY an FFE as for near future because I can't spend much on mods. Can I expect a performance/FE increase? If so, by how much?
          What are the differences expected/experienced(if by someone)?

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          • Originally posted by shhbz View Post
            ok some off topic but today a kmc truck hit a small boy crossing the road near our home and he was admitted to hospital and the mob burnt the truck in anger..
            Personally passed that inferno today at 2pm ... don't dare ride above 40kmph much in Kolkata anymore .
            Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
            I'm glad that I'm a part of this thread ...
            Nice pic sunny'jee .

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            • just finished reading many pages left over with just 200 pages to read ,was a nice experience overall now eyes burning off to sleep will continue tomorrow so I believe the total reading time came to around 10 days reading 200 pages everyday

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              • Originally posted by siddhesh View Post
                i can see a switch near the kick stater...is tht the horn switch or HID???
                Its a two way switch for stock and Windtone horns.

                Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                Aneesh - The speedo console looks good and I beleive it is the same one and escaped from accident?!?!
                Yes,Its the stock old speedometer.

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                • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post


                  Thanks for your kind words - It does mean quite a lot when something is appreciated by you !
                  The better breathing of the engine is quite evident - now I don't have to give as much throttle as I used to for attaining the same speed . Well , it should show since something which feeds a 1000cc engine is feeding my 223cc engine!!
                  Yes by proper selection it is possible to have Good free flowing Air filter without compromise...FE will increase marginally.
                  Glad you like the mod...
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
                    I'm glad that I'm a part of this thread and I joined xBhp and I'm active here in a period of time when rate of knowledge flow is more than that of the river near where I stay, the Ganges.
                    The "O" rings are for sealing the petrol , entering the injector under pressure.
                    By Lube I meant the Oil in the engine..The oil is like the blood in our system, and if you run it without changing at every 2 K Kms it will get contaminated and engine will suffer.
                    The Ignition Timing is pre-fixed and not adjustable from outside by us..Normally there will be a Throttle Position Sensor(TPS) in most 4 stroke bikes which will tell the Ignition system about the the throttle's relative position to engine RPM and make the ignitor either advance or retard the timing.FFE will give only seat of pants feel ,of going fast but won't improve much and is a waste.Even in modified ZMA only sound will be more..The Karizma has one of the better designed Exhaust system in stock form.
                    Mention of Ganges brings fond memories of my stay at Kolkatta for a week in the '80s ,....at YMCA Esplanade...during the initial phase of Metro Rail Project.The place was dug up like crazy and so much of problem for the daily commuters...I was part of the problem since I visited Kolkatta for the metro ticketing,turnstiles,and security system planning and implementation, and also the upgrading of the Air Port communication systems...
                    Last edited by psr; 11-09-2011, 11:05 AM.
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                      All newbies, take a look.

                      Dealing with Deformed Oil Drain Bolts.
                      Thanks ashwin, this indeed is a must-know for any beginner (including svc technicians) . Any idea if finding a replacement bolt is easy ?

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                      • Originally posted by shubhamAT View Post
                        Thanks ashwin, this indeed is a must-know for any beginner (including svc technicians) . Any idea if finding a replacement bolt is easy ?
                        I have stock tappet/drain bolt with me.So when ashwin was in need,he came to my house and picked it. I have them in stock because i do oilchange myself,so whenever it damages or breaks,I can replace it without any worries.

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                        • Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post
                          Sent an request for access. Blumarine005.
                          Accepted.

                          Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
                          @Aneesh bro, tank and panels of Karizma R, dashboard and rear shocks of old Karizma and spark plug cap of Karizma R 2011? :P Lot of mods there ahaan..
                          and many more mods coming soon.

                          Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
                          Can I install ONLY an FFE as for near future because I can't spend much on mods. Can I expect a performance/FE increase? If so, by how much?
                          What are the differences expected/experienced(if by someone)?
                          You mean tuned FFE like the joels or locals? With joels FFE you will get a bump in performance and mileage,Mileage will surely increase,RTR owners had confirmed it. But the joels FFE will cost you nearly 7500rs excluding shipping.

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                          • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                            Nice pic sunny'jee .
                            Thanks Pinkai Ji

                            Originally posted by psr View Post
                            The "O" rings are for sealing the petrol , entering the injector under pressure.
                            By Lube I meant the Oil in the engine..The oil is like the blood in our system, and if you run it without changing at every 2 K Kms it will get contaminated and engine will suffer.
                            Recently I ran 2700kms and then went to SVC, I hope it haven't affected the engine much
                            The Ignition Timing is pre-fixed and not adjustable from outside by us..Normally there will be a Throttle Position Sensor(TPS) in most 4 stroke bikes which will tell the Ignition system about the the throttle's relative position to engine RPM and make the ignitor either advance or retard the timing.
                            In bikes with FI and ECU, can we do it like programming ourselves for the ECU?
                            Also, is there any rev limiter kinda operation in the Karizma R 2011 models, 'cause I have got 2010 (black) and my bro has got 2011 (yellow) model and everytime when we ride on GQs his bike kinda stick to 130-135 kph region while I can overtake him with my speedo needle over 135kph.
                            Or any other reason except the fact that black bikes are faster? :P
                            FFE will give only seat of pants feel ,of going fast but won't improve much and is a waste.Even in modified ZMA only sound will be more..The Karizma has one of the better designed Exhaust system in stock form.

                            Okay, idea discarded But I'll try the air filter mod definitely once I get to know some more about perfromance till next filter change.

                            Mention of Ganges brings fond memories of my stay at Kolkatta for a week in the '80s ,....at YMCA Esplanade...during the initial phase of Metro Rail Project.The place was dug up like crazy and so much of problem for the daily commuters...I was part of the problem since I visited Kolkatta for the metro ticketing,turnstiles,and security system planning and implementation, and also the upgrading of the Air Port communication systems...
                            Sir, sure.. So when are you coming back here? Most welcome!
                            Last edited by sunny_; 11-09-2011, 01:22 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                              Accepted.

                              Won't you accept mine? [email protected]



                              and many more mods coming soon.

                              Go ahead!




                              You mean tuned FFE like the joels or locals? With joels FFE you will get a bump in performance and mileage,Mileage will surely increase,RTR owners had confirmed it. But the joels FFE will cost you nearly 7500rs excluding shipping.
                              I meant standard ones, maybe Joel's...but now discarded . Moreover, it is out of budget anyday for me.

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                              • Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
                                Sir, sure.. So when are you coming back here? Most welcome!
                                Thanks for the invite, but not in near future..I have retired and trying to spend quality time with family, and in Xbhp...
                                The HH 10w30 becomes bad at 600 to 800 Kms,and a Gulf pride 4T plus 20w40 or the Honda 20w40 (any JASO MA2 certified 20w40) oil will last 2,000 Kms.using oil beyond this is generally not preferred, due to the oil loosing it's viscosity,and accumulating contaminants.
                                In Fi with ECU it is possible to alter the setting of injector and ignition settings through a matching connector and programmer...
                                All Karizmas have a rev limiter operating at 9250 to 9500 RPM.You can hit the rev limiter in 4th gear but not in the 5th due to the tall 5th gear ratio in ZMA.
                                The ZEN MPFi filter was used by me due to non availability of stock filter and found to give better breathing .I was not looking for performance enhancement.
                                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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