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  • Originally posted by abhishek.murdeshwar View Post
    she is rock solid even at 120 + even with pillion..!! The bike becomes more stable once you cross 100KMPH..and i was doing around 100-120 speed all day long..!!!
    Apart from the handling, i got a milage of only 27-30 KMS only..!! Which i felt was too less...!!
    Even i liked the stablilty of this bike at 100+..but the average you got was too less man, IMHO!
    Originally posted by abhishek.murdeshwar View Post
    I stopped the vehicle..put her on the main stand..and saw that the bikes Number plate had hit the Front Mud guard..and it had some scratches on it..and even found the number plate got loose because of it
    Man u scared me, lota look out for potholes

    Get the bike checked for alignment and stuff at the SC, before changing anything!
    Ride safe man!

    Cheers,
    Himanshu
    ZMA'ingggggggg

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    • An FE of 28-30 at speeds above 110 with pillion is very very normal.

      Try cruising at 80 kmph and you get 38-40 kmpl.
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      • Originally posted by rachitkdogra View Post
        Don't worry about the mileage mate. I also get these kinds of mileage when storming down the highways. The mag should not be broken but as you mentioned the intensity of the bump seems quite high just check for alignment. The disk should not touch the disk pads and rotate freely. if thats the case I don't think that there should be any other major damage
        Yeah im not worried about the milage that much...!! I used to get 28 on my Pulsar 180 too.. so im used to it..!! Yeah the intensity of the bump was very high and has i was doing a very high speed with the pillion so i got worried...but to my wonder the Wheels where normal..apart for a small bent on the edge of the wheel..i could only notice the bend by moving the finger on it..!! Visualy it cannnot be seen..!! The tire roation was normal like before..!! So that makes me feel lil better now..!!

        Originally posted by wings_of_fury View Post
        Even i liked the stablilty of this bike at 100+..but the average you got was too less man, IMHO!

        Man u scared me, lota look out for potholes

        Get the bike checked for alignment and stuff at the SC, before changing anything!
        Ride safe man!

        Cheers,
        Himanshu
        Regarding average i guess many people here get the same when ripped hard..i was constantly doing around 6.5-7.5 K RPM..!! And that too with a pillion..so i think the milage was normal...and yes i calculated the exact milage and it was 29 KMS per liter..i always check from tank full to tank full method so the figure what i got was accurate..
        By the way how the alligment of the bike can be checked..? I means is there any method for me to do it..or the SC guys have some instrument for checking that..?


        Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        An FE of 28-30 at speeds above 110 with pillion is very very normal.

        Try cruising at 80 kmph and you get 38-40 kmpl.
        Yeah a lot of people whom i know said that the FE what i got was normal....and yes to make it clear..i usual get a milage of 35-38 in city riding condition..!!

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        • Originally posted by abhishek.murdeshwar View Post
          yes i calculated the exact milage and it was 29 KMS per liter..i always check from tank full to tank full method so the figure what i got was accurate..
          Full tank to full tank method can never be accurate.
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          • Originally posted by Jonak View Post
            Full tank to full tank method can never be accurate.
            Can you tell me why is it so Jonak...?

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            • Originally posted by abhishek.murdeshwar View Post
              Can you tell me why is it so Jonak...?
              It is difficult to measure the level for accurate amount of petrol if you use tankful to tankful.

              The best way is, when the bike in reserve set the trip to zero, fill more than 10L petrol, use it up till reserve, note the trip. Now, the total trip divided by 10L will give you the exact amount of FE.
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              • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                The best way is, when the bike in reserve set the trip to zero, fill more than 10L petrol, use it up till reserve, note the trip. Now, the total trip divided by 10L will give you the exact amount of FE.
                Why 10L..it can be less too..

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                • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                  Why 10L..it can be less too..
                  Because, with 10L, one generally does all kinds of riding; ripping, city riding, highway riding, sane riding. It gives better average than lesser quantity.
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                  • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                    Because, with 10L, one generally does all kinds of riding; ripping, city riding, highway riding, sane riding. It gives better average than lesser quantity.
                    Ya, that is true..!!

                    Somehow i have recently observed that my bike is returning a very good mileage these days...it must be around 50ish.. *Touchwood*

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                    • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                      Ya, that is true..!!

                      Somehow i have recently observed that my bike is returning a very good mileage these days...it must be around 50ish.. *Touchwood*
                      Adding any secret ingredients??

                      I am getting only 30-32 kmpl

                      Yesterday I took her to Highway for a 150-km ride; first ride after the summer (a long gap) and first ride with Sirac. It performed splendid. Could touch 120 with Sirac. But, it needs a better front tyre. Now feeling a lighter front, scary under hard braking. Planning to go for M45 3 x 18.

                      My favorite stance of Zma, now with Sirac. Shot this yesterday.

                      Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 06-16-2009, 01:47 AM.
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                      • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                        Adding any secret ingredients??

                        I am getting only 30-32 kmpl
                        Naah..!! Just riding very nicely these days..!!

                        That Sirac looks HUGE..!!

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                        • Originally posted by abhishek.murdeshwar View Post
                          Can you tell me why is it so Jonak...?
                          Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                          It is difficult to measure the level for accurate amount of petrol if you use tankful to tankful.

                          The best way is, when the bike in reserve set the trip to zero, fill more than 10L petrol, use it up till reserve, note the trip. Now, the total trip divided by 10L will give you the exact amount of FE.
                          Sorry, didn't see your post yesterday. Ravi sir has already given your answer. Just to simply test the flaw in tank to tank method, do full tank (make sure no more fuel goes into it). Shake the bike will . Take a spin for a minute or so and see how much fuel goes into the tank again. As Ravi sir has pointed out, the reserve to reserve method is accurate.
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                          • Wobble

                            Hello brothers!

                            I am having a feeling at the handle bar, a crazy minute wobble, or I should say a wiggle as I slow down after I do the 100kmph mark!( at 100 its stable) . I mean the handle bar delivers a back force, sometimes overcoming me!. It occurs at times!. I cannot doubt a bearing failure cos the disc does not produce periodical wear sounds. The wheel is also accurate and no bend!. So it must be the fork which evidently appears perfect!!..??/
                            Any suggestions guys?, also can anyone tell me how to identify the forks are doing ok!

                            Guys someone can give me the verdict on the Iridum plug, spitfire cable switch , is it worth it!!?? Any dealers in Mumbai!!!

                            Thank you

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                            • Originally posted by ptvvtp View Post
                              Hello brothers!

                              I am having a feeling at the handle bar, a crazy minute wobble, or I should say a wiggle as I slow down after I do the 100kmph mark!( at 100 its stable) . I mean the handle bar delivers a back force, sometimes overcoming me!. It occurs at times!. I cannot doubt a bearing failure cos the disc does not produce periodical wear sounds. The wheel is also accurate and no bend!. So it must be the fork which evidently appears perfect!!..??/
                              Any suggestions guys?, also can anyone tell me how to identify the forks are doing ok!

                              Guys someone can give me the verdict on the Iridum plug, spitfire cable switch , is it worth it!!?? Any dealers in Mumbai!!!

                              Thank you
                              I have a Hadaka Iridium and spitfire cable on my bike.

                              Frankly speaking I cannot feel any increase in power.
                              Although my bike has a free flow exhaust, bigger jet and K&N then also. Not sure why but i expected atleast some improvement. Was sad in the end.

                              I might be missing some trick here. So if anyone can tell why this might be happening it would be very helpful.
                              Rachit K Dogra

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                              • Originally posted by ptvvtp View Post
                                I am having a feeling at the handle bar, a crazy minute wobble, or I should say a wiggle as I slow down after I do the 100kmph mark!( at 100 its stable) . I mean the handle bar delivers a back force, sometimes overcoming me!. It occurs at times!. I cannot doubt a bearing failure cos the disc does not produce periodical wear sounds. The wheel is also accurate and no bend!. So it must be the fork which evidently appears perfect!!..??/
                                Any suggestions guys?, also can anyone tell me how to identify the forks are doing ok!
                                If there is a weird sideways wobble, have the steering assembly disassembled and check to make sure there are enough bearing balls in the cones, which are located at the bottom and top of the handle "T'. Best to replace them, buy new HH OE cone bearings first (these are loose balls, not the regular bearings we're used to). They cost about Rs. 45/ and IIRC, there are 21 for the top and 21 for the bottom. Your mech will clean the grease from the cones and gently sandpaper them to remove any pits (and advise you to replace if they are worn). Fresh grease then goes in and the new bearing balls are carefuly placed in their bed of fresh grease. This may or may not solve your problem, but it will make a difference in your bike's handling, you will be able to tell the difference right away.

                                For forks, replace the oil every 12,000 or so km or every two years. It is best to have this done when your cone bearing balls are replaced. Buy a can of Castrol Fork Oil, put 144 + or - 3 ml in each fork.

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