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**ashwinprakas** · 07-10-2013, 11:44 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

From experience, Ignore and ride on.
Reason: Various.

**pixantz** · 07-11-2013, 12:43 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ryan.virgo View Post

@SriramEfunds I too had a similar kind of issue last month, my bike would suddenly give me a feeling that its running out of petrol and I need to switch the knob to reserve (but the engine would never shut off). In my case the problem was water in the tank. Got the tank thoroughly cleaned at the SVC, according to them the petrol bunk where I used to fill petrol was at fault, god knows how rain water started getting mixed in their petrol. I stopped filling petrol from them, no problems till date.

Thats a fact. Its the case everywhere. Normally everybody thinks that if water gets in the tank, its through the tank lid. False. Though it is ONE OF THE CAUSE, the more common cause nowadays is that the water goes into your tank mixed ALONG WITH THE PETROL FROM YOUR PETROL BUNK!! This is a fact. Actually, petrol bunks have quite a lot of places like air vents or overhead covers etc from where rain water enters the main reservoir and then enters your tank along with the petrol when you tank up. And then it settles down in the tank and starts the mischief.
The method I use to avoid this headache is that I fill petrol from only one or two fixed bunks where I'm sure I wont get water, especially in the rainy season. My bunk literally has plastic and water proof material covering all open gaps. Will post pics of this very soon. Basically its a trial and error method and I've been doing this since three years now with perfect results. One more thing I kept in mind was avoiding old or renewed bunks where the underground reservoir had more chances of being leaky/ or prone to accumulating water. Both the bunks I use are new ones. Hope this helps.

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**Sajith** · 07-11-2013, 09:53 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ryan.virgo View Post

@SriramEfunds I too had a similar kind of issue last month, my bike would suddenly give me a feeling that its running out of petrol and I need to switch the knob to reserve (but the engine would never shut off). In my case the problem was water in the tank. Got the tank thoroughly cleaned at the SVC, according to them the petrol bunk where I used to fill petrol was at fault, god knows how rain water started getting mixed in their petrol. I stopped filling petrol from them, no problems till date.

bro i have same prob suddenly give a feeling of petrol is out and need to switch to reserve bt after that put t on again bike runs.. i also my FE is decreased.

**krish2778** · 07-11-2013, 10:21 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ryan.virgo View Post

@SriramEfunds I too had a similar kind of issue last month, my bike would suddenly give me a feeling that its running out of petrol and I need to switch the knob to reserve (but the engine would never shut off). In my case the problem was water in the tank. Got the tank thoroughly cleaned at the SVC, according to them the petrol bunk where I used to fill petrol was at fault, god knows how rain water started getting mixed in their petrol. I stopped filling petrol from them, no problems till date.

Mate, i have heard that this is a incresingly common tactic by the petrol bunks. They pour water into the storage reserviour so that the petrol at the bottom of the storage reserviour rises above the water as water is more denser , so when the tank is almost empty it still is easily able to suck the petrol at the very bottom which is filled with dust anyway. So apart from the dust chances are water also gets into your tank.
Now another thing is similar while filling from bunks when they have just refilled their storage tanks from the tanker trucks, in this conditiin the petrol will be fully mixed up with the water and dust or sediments in the storage tank. The petrol will settle only after some time in the tank when the sediments and water redt at the bottom of the storage reserviour.

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**krish2778** · 07-11-2013, 10:23 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Sajith View Post

bro i have same prob suddenly give a feeling of petrol is out and need to switch to reserve bt after that put t on again bike runs.. i also my FE is decreased.

Mate, for this try this method. When you get that feeling. Stop the bike, open the petrol lid and wait for about 10sec. It will release any kind of air bubbles in the tank or fuel lunes and the problem should vanish.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

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**Sajith** · 07-11-2013, 07:59 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Mate, for this try this method. When you get that feeling. Stop the bike, open the petrol lid and wait for about 10sec. It will release any kind of air bubbles in the tank or fuel lunes and the problem should vanish.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

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bro another compliant.. very problems are came after this raining season.. today's ride is full in rain.. and meter get reset and missing too.. and said this to a chief mech he told maybe water get in electrical parts need to blow up with air. i don't know the reasons all problems are not familiar with me

**rav** · 07-11-2013, 11:21 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

I see your brake pads are new with original thickness intact. To check brake pad thickness, no need to open the wheel. Just straighten the handle bar and peep between the wheel and disc plate under good light, or you can use a torch. You can see the thickness of the pads.

It looks like my biking woes are continuing. I'm hearing a cycle-chain-like-screeching sound from somewhere around the engine. What could it be? I've observed it only today and it comes only if I accelerate. If I release the throttle and let the bike roll I do not hear anything.

I'm planning to take the bike to the SVC tomorrow evening. Any thoughts before that please?
[MENTION=11210]ravi@17bhp[/MENTION]: Thanks for that bro. I see that you changed the brake oil. I should try that coz the front braking is not smooth; moreover when I apply it I can feel the lever pressing like tuk-tuk as if it's not properly lubricated.

You can only imagine how much I wish I can do such things without going to the SVC. Whenever I ride the bike, I'm so impressed by the smoothness, but when I think of the service Hero provides it's such a revolting feeling

**pixantz** · 07-12-2013, 12:03 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rav View Post

It looks like my biking woes are continuing. I'm hearing a cycle-chain-like-screeching sound from somewhere around the engine. What could it be? I've observed it only today and it comes only if I accelerate. If I release the throttle and let the bike roll I do not hear anything.

I'm planning to take the bike to the SVC tomorrow evening. Any thoughts before that please?
[MENTION=11210]ravi@17bhp[/MENTION]: Thanks for that bro. I see that you changed the brake oil. I should try that coz the front braking is not smooth; moreover when I apply it I can feel the lever pressing like tuk-tuk as if it's not properly lubricated.

You can only imagine how much I wish I can do such things without going to the SVC. Whenever I ride the bike, I'm so impressed by the smoothness, but when I think of the service Hero provides it's such a revolting feeling

Not sure about bycycle-chain screeching, but if it's a squealing kind of sound then it could be that oil is not reaching vital engine parts like cam-shaft, rockers, etc

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**rav** · 07-12-2013, 10:46 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by pixantz View Post

Not sure about bycycle-chain screeching, but if it's a squealing kind of sound then it could be that oil is not reaching vital engine parts like cam-shaft, rockers, etc

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I tried observing it closely today. When I started to work this morning it was quiet. But after riding for about 2 km it started. It is not continous nor the bike's smoothness is affected. I can hear it on and off but it's consistent.
If I put the bike on main stand and turn the rear wheel, i can hear the sound emanating from somwhere around the engine. I get the bike regularly serviced, then why me

**Divya Sharan** · 07-12-2013, 11:52 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rav View Post

I tried observing it closely today. When I started to work this morning it was quiet. But after riding for about 2 km it started. It is not continous nor the bike's smoothness is affected. I can hear it on and off but it's consistent.
If I put the bike on main stand and turn the rear wheel, i can hear the sound emanating from somwhere around the engine. I get the bike regularly serviced, then why me

"If I put the bike on main stand and turn the rear wheel, i can hear the sound emanating from somwhere around the engine."
Get the front sprocket cleaned.

**rav** · 07-12-2013, 05:38 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

"If I put the bike on main stand and turn the rear wheel, i can hear the sound emanating from somwhere around the engine."
Get the front sprocket cleaned.

I will bro. Thanks for that. The SVC guys in Bangalore at least gave some respect and listened to what I had to say. Here in Pune, they're as if "so what. leave the bike here. we'll take a look". I'm not the type who'll argue or shout at them. I realized I'm trying to reason with an unreasonable system.

All in all I'm just back from the SVC. It looks like my ZMA atleast, understood me. I can't hear the squealing sound anymore (for now). I'll shoot off a mail to Hero and scout around to find some good mechanic who can atleast do something as instructed. (I'll get the instructions from here

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**rav** · 07-13-2013, 08:50 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post

Are you in Pune or Mumbai? If Pune, then the best workshop to head for is Bike Gurus at Mayur Colony, Kothrud. Meet Amjad Bhai there...Inder's ZiMA and my earlier P150 (and all other vehicles too) were exclusively serviced by him. He does have a magical touch.

I think it's time I've looked outside of HH SVC. I'm pretty much dissatisfied with the service. ZTAmatic PM'ed Amjed bhai's number a long time back, but I was lazy enough not to even give him a call :P
I'll call and try my luck.

**Sajith** · 07-13-2013, 11:21 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Thanks for the caution. I asked directly in the spares center and he told me it is 350 rupees, but fitting it would cost another 200 bucks as service charge. The mechanic did some welding work and seems working fine. Lets see how good it stands.

NGK G Power is a very good choice for Karizma. We used it two years back and it was really good.

Could somebody please educate me as to how much fuel will be left in reserve. Feeling ashamed to forgot it after using Karizma for 3 years.

Not finding the manual.

which is OEM karizma's spark plug...

**ravi@17bhp** · 07-13-2013, 11:41 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Sajith View Post

which is OEM karizma's spark plug...

CPR8EA-9 is stock plug made by NGK
CPR8EAGP-9 is G-power spark plug made by NGK and its just stock CPR8EA-9 with different tip.

**Sajith** · 07-13-2013, 11:50 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

CPR8EA-9 is stock plug made by NGK
CPR8EAGP-9 is G-power spark plug made by NGK and its just stock CPR8EA-9 with different tip.

Thanks bro..

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