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**Praful** · 11-13-2008, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by souvikb83 View Post

not only the HIDs on multi reflector, but if you fix a projector,the whole set get changed...even the fiber works on the fairings.but have you heard anything about this buddy?

Man, I still am not getting you!!!!

Firstly HID's are not usually meant to run on a multi-reflector setup, its intended to work with projector lens setups actually.

Now whats this about fiber? and fairngs??

**pranay** · 11-13-2008, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

Man, I still am not getting you!!!!

Firstly HID's are not usually meant to run on a multi-reflector setup, its intended to work with projector lens setups actually.

Now whats this about fiber? and fairngs??

Yes, HID's are definitely NOT meant for reflectors setup. They will definitely blind people ahead of you.

I think he meant that putting a dual projector lens setup in the R15 by removing the reflectors. I haven't seen that happen yet. I'm sure it would cost alot though.

**digislayer** · 11-13-2008, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

See the stock lamps are 35W, I guess even the HID lamps are 35W. So actually there's nothing like 'HID drains your battery'. But if incorrectly installed, it can lead to battery drainage.

But then HID on a multi-reflector

.....Bad Idea!

You're forgetting the current consumption rating here!

The HIDs need really high voltages to ignite the gas, which's satisfied by the power-up transformers. These transformers in turn make up for the lack of supply voltage by sucking in more current than usual..and the battery is designed to provide only 3.5amps of power.

On a different note, has anyone noticed the engine getting extremely hot upon usage of "Power" fuel?? :|
My engine's getting extremely hot after i filled in with 8lts of Power, i still have like 4 lts left in the tank.The worst part is, radiator fan also doesn't kick in, but the gearbox,exhaust setup and everything else heat up like shit! I wouldn't mind the engine and silencer heating normally, but the gearbox??? Doesn't this mean the engine got hot enough for the heat to trickle down to the gearbox inspite of the engine oil present inside?? And if this is the case.. why didn't the fan kick in?? :|

The gearbox never got so hot before even after a 100kms trip..but it gets extremely hot even after a 10kms trip now.

**santoosh** · 11-13-2008, 05:20 PM

Hid requires a high starting current in the range of about 10 A , where ll u get that ?

Then later it requires just 35w which in a np to supply , but mind u the whole bike runs on dc.
FI to ecu to spark plug ... everything , so if the current is drawn in the lights oly , the other electricals would not get sufficient power.

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**digislayer** · 11-13-2008, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by santoosh View Post

Hid requires a high starting current in the range of about 10 A , where ll u get that ?

Then later it requires just 35w which in a np to supply , but mind u the whole bike runs on dc.
FI to ecu to spark plug ... everything , so if the current is drawn in the lights oly , the other electricals would not get sufficient power.

Santa

Not just in the starting santa, look at my above post.. it needs a continuous supply of hicgh current. For example, a Skoda Laura's HID needs current in the range of almost 20amps continuously.. me checked it with a multimeter

**pranay** · 11-13-2008, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by digislayer View Post

Not just in the starting santa, look at my above post.. it needs a continuous supply of hicgh current. For example, a Skoda Laura's HID needs current in the range of almost 20amps continuously.. me checked it with a multimeter

I think the Laura has a much higher spec HID. I'm guessing 55/60 W setup. Plus its a car.

Bike HID setups require much lesser. You need a minimum of 9ah for most 35W HID (taking startup in consideration) setups. I dont know how much the R15 has.

**digislayer** · 11-13-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by pranay View Post

I think the Laura has a much higher spec HID. I'm guessing 55/60 W setup. Plus its a car.

Bike HID setups require much lesser. You need a minimum of 9ah for most 35W HID (taking startup in consideration) setups. I dont know how much the R15 has.

Cant comment on that..but can anyone help me with this engine heating issue??:

Originally posted by digislayer View Post

On a different note, has anyone noticed the engine getting extremely hot upon usage of "Power" fuel?? :|
My engine's getting extremely hot after i filled in with 8lts of Power, i still have like 4 lts left in the tank.The worst part is, radiator fan also doesn't kick in, but the gearbox,exhaust setup and everything else heat up like shit! I wouldn't mind the engine and silencer heating normally, but the gearbox??? Doesn't this mean the engine got hot enough for the heat to trickle down to the gearbox inspite of the engine oil present inside?? And if this is the case.. why didn't the fan kick in?? :|

The gearbox never got so hot before even after a 100kms trip..but it gets extremely hot even after a 10kms trip now.

**darkknight** · 11-13-2008, 05:55 PM

Does anybody have an idea how much would a pair of HID cost...

Have enquired in Mumbai and everone says between the range of 5.5 to 6k for a pair...

**pudix** · 11-13-2008, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by digislayer View Post

On a different note, has anyone noticed the engine getting extremely hot upon usage of "Power" fuel?? :|
My engine's getting extremely hot after i filled in with 8lts of Power, i still have like 4 lts left in the tank.The worst part is, radiator fan also doesn't kick in, but the gearbox,exhaust setup and everything else heat up like shit! I wouldn't mind the engine and silencer heating normally, but the gearbox??? Doesn't this mean the engine got hot enough for the heat to trickle down to the gearbox inspite of the engine oil present inside?? And if this is the case.. why didn't the fan kick in?? :|

The gearbox never got so hot before even after a 100kms trip..but it gets extremely hot even after a 10kms trip now.

I also noticed the same thing, but thought that its normal. I use speed normally, and have been since the start. Have you tried normal petrol and seen any difference? I will shift to normal fuel this time. The gear box and the engine are hot to the point that you can only touch it for couple of seconds.

**Enthusiast** · 11-13-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by digislayer View Post

You're forgetting the current consumption rating here!

The HIDs need really high voltages to ignite the gas, which's satisfied by the power-up transformers. These transformers in turn make up for the lack of supply voltage by sucking in more current than usual..and the battery is designed to provide only 3.5amps of power.

On a different note, has anyone noticed the engine getting extremely hot upon usage of "Power" fuel?? :|
My engine's getting extremely hot after i filled in with 8lts of Power, i still have like 4 lts left in the tank.The worst part is, radiator fan also doesn't kick in, but the gearbox,exhaust setup and everything else heat up like shit! I wouldn't mind the engine and silencer heating normally, but the gearbox??? Doesn't this mean the engine got hot enough for the heat to trickle down to the gearbox inspite of the engine oil present inside?? And if this is the case.. why didn't the fan kick in?? :|

The gearbox never got so hot before even after a 100kms trip..but it gets extremely hot even after a 10kms trip now.

Digislayer
***ATTENTION****

Check if you have enough Collant in the reservior by removing the right side panel. If the collant level is low then obviously the engine goes super HOT, followed by GEAR Box.

watch out!

If my memory is rite I remember reading somewhere in the manul to check the coolant level once every 1000kms.

**mizbah** · 11-13-2008, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by digislayer View Post

You're forgetting the current consumption rating here!

The HIDs need really high voltages to ignite the gas, which's satisfied by the power-up transformers. These transformers in turn make up for the lack of supply voltage by sucking in more current than usual..and the battery is designed to provide only 3.5amps of power.

On a different note, has anyone noticed the engine getting extremely hot upon usage of "Power" fuel?? :|
My engine's getting extremely hot after i filled in with 8lts of Power, i still have like 4 lts left in the tank.The worst part is, radiator fan also doesn't kick in, but the gearbox,exhaust setup and everything else heat up like shit! I wouldn't mind the engine and silencer heating normally, but the gearbox??? Doesn't this mean the engine got hot enough for the heat to trickle down to the gearbox inspite of the engine oil present inside?? And if this is the case.. why didn't the fan kick in?? :|

The gearbox never got so hot before even after a 100kms trip..but it gets extremely hot even after a 10kms trip now.

bro i have been using xtra premium(at times speed, the petrol guy said both are same

) since i laid my butt on the bike!!! so its not the petrol must be the coolant ...or even else

**pudix** · 11-13-2008, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Enthusiast View Post

Digislayer
***ATTENTION****

Check if you have enough Collant in the reservior by removing the right side panel. If the collant level is low then obviously the engine goes super HOT, followed by GEAR Box.

watch out!

If my memory is rite I remember reading somewhere in the manul to check the coolant level once every 1000kms.

Yes, that is a possibility, esp since a lot of new r15s have come with less than adequate coolants, have heard so from many people here. I checked mine sometime back, there was indeed very little coolant there, almost on the level of 'low'. I have since replaced the coolant. Though in my case, after replacing the desired amount, the temperature of the gear box and the engine hasnt shown any change. So, I guessed that its normal, but its hot nonetheless.
To replace the reservoir coolant, just remove the left middle fairing, the one marked 'Deltabox'

**digislayer** · 11-13-2008, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by pudix View Post

I also noticed the same thing, but thought that its normal. I use speed normally, and have been since the start. Have you tried normal petrol and seen any difference? I will shift to normal fuel this time. The gear box and the engine are hot to the point that you can only touch it for couple of seconds.

I first used XtraPremium when the bike was new..and had no troubles. I then switched back to normal fuel for some reasons..and continued so without any problems uptil recently. In the meanwhile i had to use a litre or 2 petrol of from an untrusted source because of no choice...and thought that the untrusted fuel might have screwed my engine. So, went for 500Rs of "Power" because it's supposed to have some detergent bases that'll clean the fuel system and engine of carbon deposits and sludge,etc..That's when the heating issue started.

Originally posted by Enthusiast View Post

Digislayer
***ATTENTION****

Check if you have enough Collant in the reservior by removing the right side panel. If the collant level is low then obviously the engine goes super HOT, followed by GEAR Box.

watch out!

If my memory is rite I remember reading somewhere in the manul to check the coolant level once every 1000kms.

I got my second servicing done recently..and we topped the coolant reservoir,maybe a week back or so. Didn't even do 500kms since the top-up..so didn't check it, will do it tomorrow anyways.

Originally posted by mizbah View Post

bro i have been using xtra premium(at times speed, the petrol guy said both are same

) since i laid my butt on the bike!!! so its not the petrol must be the coolant ...or even else

Even I've used Xtrapremium previously..and had no troubles. This's my first experience with "Power"..and i'm facing this heat issue. I know high octane fuels increase heat levels..but to this extent?? That's my question...and even if it's okay for the engine to heat this much because of higher octane, what's the liquid cooling system doing?? Even the radiator fan doesn't turn on!

**snehmads** · 11-13-2008, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by digislayer View Post

On a different note, has anyone noticed the engine getting extremely hot upon usage of "Power" fuel?? :|
My engine's getting extremely hot after i filled in with 8lts of Power, i still have like 4 lts left in the tank.The worst part is, radiator fan also doesn't kick in, but the gearbox,exhaust setup and everything else heat up like shit! I wouldn't mind the engine and silencer heating normally, but the gearbox??? Doesn't this mean the engine got hot enough for the heat to trickle down to the gearbox inspite of the engine oil present inside?? And if this is the case.. why didn't the fan kick in?? :|

The gearbox never got so hot before even after a 100kms trip..but it gets extremely hot even after a 10kms trip now.

buddy, my bike is running on 'Power' branded petrol since day1 and i have never faced any heating problem. As others have suggested, see the coolant level.

**digislayer** · 11-14-2008, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by snehmads View Post

buddy, my bike is running on 'Power' branded petrol since day1 and i have never faced any heating problem. As others have suggested, see the coolant level.

Hmm.. will do it tomo, but everything is right as long as the engine malfunction doesn't light up right?

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