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  • Originally posted by mani View Post
    also when i bought my bull the mech had told me to avoid giving throttle immediately on starting - to leave it as it is. but now whenever i start it i need to warm it up by pushing the throttle otherwise she stalls.

    any ideas why this happens?
    same here mani...I guess it the cold causing the issue. Remember what JD said a few posts ago?
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    • Originally posted by mani View Post

      also when i bought my bull the mech had told me to avoid giving throttle immediately on starting - to leave it as it is. but now whenever i start it i need to warm it up by pushing the throttle otherwise she stalls.

      any ideas why this happens?
      One reason for not giving throttle to a cold bike will be that all the engine oil is collected in the sump below the engine, and it takes a bit of time for the oil pumps to force oil to the rockers on top. If one applies a full throttle, then the rockers will run dry and wear out faster.
      But coming to your problem, do apply a little bit of throttle (just enough to hold her), but don't do a full vroom-vroom. Let the engine run like that for a minute or so.

      coming to Ramamoorthy's problems: yes, the Bullet generates quite a bit more heat compared to other bikes. a rough check to see whether your machine is overheating or not is to touch the timing chest cover on the right side - if you can place your hand there for 2-3 seconds, it's ok.
      You've read Guru's guide to running-in, right? So, no need to wait anymore - you can go on long rides right after the first service. Just follow what he says.

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      • Originally posted by shobhonroy View Post
        One reason for not giving throttle to a cold bike will be that all the engine oil is collected in the sump below the engine, and it takes a bit of time for the oil pumps to force oil to the rockers on top. If one applies a full throttle, then the rockers will run dry and wear out faster.
        But coming to your problem, do apply a little bit of throttle (just enough to hold her), but don't do a full vroom-vroom. Let the engine run like that for a minute or so.
        The oil can be recirculated by putting 4-5 'dry' kicks, i.e. with ignition off. This circulates the oil from the sump and is always something to do when starting a bike that has been standing for more than a few hours. Slight throttle is Ok, vroom is a strict no-no.
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        • Originally posted by shobhonroy View Post
          coming to Ramamoorthy's problems: yes, the Bullet generates quite a bit more heat compared to other bikes. a rough check to see whether your machine is overheating or not is to touch the timing chest cover on the right side - if you can place your hand there for 2-3 seconds, it's ok.
          You've read Guru's guide to running-in, right? So, no need to wait anymore - you can go on long rides right after the first service. Just follow what he says.
          I completely disagree with the timing cover method. A well tuned bullet will generate a fair amount of heat, greater than which a normal human hand can comfortably feel for 2-3 seconds. Only bullets that run excessively rich will run with just a warm timing cover. If your bullet's engine is overheating, then a small water droplet on the engine head will turn into steam as soon as it touches the engine head. This is the most effective method to check overheating this side of a temperature sensor.

          Cheers,

          Jay

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          • Originally posted by mani View Post
            Thanks guys for replying.

            well no back fire yet i think its electra thats why. but yes my bull's battery is like dead in the morning. i have to kik start. but before the first service i used to start it in like 3 kiks. sometimes only one . but now every time it takes like 10 kiks. every time. i dont know why ? b-coz engine was bit faster before the first service.
            and everytime the bike is parked and i start it again (after any amount of time - any time of day, even in the afternoon), it still takes around 5-8 kiks to start. no use of the self - battery is dead

            also when i bought my bull the mech had told me to avoid giving throttle immediately on starting - to leave it as it is. but now whenever i start it i need to warm it up by pushing the throttle otherwise she stalls.

            any ideas why this happens?
            I too faced the same issue (bike not starting after 5-6 kicks in the morning). Also in the evening while leaving office. Mech told to use choke in the mornings and yes a bit of throttle, very little just so that the bike does not stop and that too for few seconds and then the bike settles.

            In the mornings if i use choke the bike starts within a kick and if not it takes around 5 kicks.

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            • Originally posted by jayprashanth View Post
              I completely disagree with the timing cover method. A well tuned bullet will generate a fair amount of heat, greater than which a normal human hand can comfortably feel for 2-3 seconds. Only bullets that run excessively rich will run with just a warm timing cover. If your bullet's engine is overheating, then a small water droplet on the engine head will turn into steam as soon as it touches the engine head. This is the most effective method to check overheating this side of a temperature sensor.
              Jay, thank you very much

              I shall check the temperature using the water-drop-test after a 30 km non-stop ride this week.

              How to know the engine oil is really circulating. I mean, there is no leak and the level is not reducing; I check it every week.

              There is some tappet noise. My Standard has covered 2500 kms in four months. Even though noise is very low compared to a similarly old Machismo-350, it is still there. Shall I do the adjustments to reduce the noise or wait till next service.

              Even though the Owner's manual says "adjust" the tappets every service, I don't think the ASC does it..

              regards

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              • thank you so much all of you.
                i was really worried about this starting problem. previous i had 5 bike (one at a time ). and each bike needed nice throttle when u start them. and when i was taking delivery of bullet i was very happy to see that you don't need throttle when you start the bike. so there as my hand was well trained to give throttle i wasn't able to start the bike. then mech told me don't even touch the handle just kick. n there you go. superb

                and these days i thought i m making my bull like my old bikes. but now every thing seems fine. all of us giving a bit throttle in these cold days.

                keep thumping.
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                  • Originally posted by ramamoorthyh View Post
                    Jay, thank you very much

                    I shall check the temperature using the water-drop-test after a 30 km non-stop ride this week.

                    How to know the engine oil is really circulating. I mean, there is no leak and the level is not reducing; I check it every week.

                    There is some tappet noise. My Standard has covered 2500 kms in four months. Even though noise is very low compared to a similarly old Machismo-350, it is still there. Shall I do the adjustments to reduce the noise or wait till next service.

                    Even though the Owner's manual says "adjust" the tappets every service, I don't think the ASC does it..

                    regards

                    If you do know how to adjust the pushrods(tappets), go ahead and do it.

                    Meanwhile, the tappets need to be adjusted everytime they get loose, which usually happens once in 2000 Kms or so. That said, it depends on motorcycle to motorcycle.

                    Make sure that you do it only when the engine is cold and also ensure that you don't overtighten it. That could result in a burnt valve.

                    Cheers,

                    Jay

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                    • Originally posted by tay_uh View Post
                      Check out the New RE Classic
                      Gorgeous pics.

                      Cheers,

                      Jay

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                      • Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                        Guys i have booked a classic 350 and will be getting the bike on march.i want to fit alloy wheels in my bike,so i want to know all the details.its pro's and con's,price(i in bangalore) and brand....and will adding allo wheels reduce the mileage?plzz looking forward to your replies
                        Hey Man, Congrats. Not sure if you got the reply or opinion for your query. I dont think mileage decrease when replacing with alloys; as a matter of fact it increases stabilty and braking to some extent. This is so true in cars - hope the same with bikes. Anyways I too booked CL350 Maroon on Jan 8th 2010 , dealer said 30-45 days waiting period (in chennai)!!
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                        • hey pranav_salieri
                          Congrats man.
                          no idea about alloy wheels, but i am sure some senior thumper will help you.


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                          Maroon looks superb on road. yesterday saw one beside me when i was on highway Congrats.
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                          • i was really pissed these days. because my 1171 km old bull's battery was dead. And Exide dealer asked me give him bull's battery for a week so he can claim. and he didn't have any service battery. so no option to leave bullet at home for one week. and following week he told me that they don't have stock. battery will come in next lot in next week. i was like wtf .
                            i started calling each n every battery shop for new battery. but my bad luck no stock. even not a single service battery for rent from any local mech.
                            but again my good luck. my battery wala agreed to give me one battery on rent 50 Rs. a day and deposit 1000 Rs. i know its too much. but its okay. at least after one week i am back on bull.

                            so right now i have some battery named CHARGE in my bull. its new battery i asked him cost got reply 1800. i have no idea about the company, i am just wondering now should i buy this battery or should i just wait for exide one. and pay the rent for this one...

                            keep thumping...
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                            • ^^ Why do you have to deal with Exide dealer separately. Can't your RE dealer take care of it on your behalf, as I believe your bull is still under warranty, rite?
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                              • 500KM report for my 2 weeks old Classic 350

                                Sorry guys that I am getting pack with this report this late. It has been 500KMs. I have got it serviced as well. After service it sounds more crisper and feels like it is ready to be revved. Besides all these the ride has performed its part very well. I should say the feel and the experience has exceeded my expectations. One problem that I have faced is that the idle RPM in the initial cold mornings is low and tends to get of. But mind you, only while in idle. I wonder how it never gave me a problem once the gear is changed from neutral and the vehicle is moving. Hence this problem did nt really affect the experience. BTW... did I tell you that the ride is consistently returning 43-46KMPL. I hope it stays this way all throughout. Handling and braking is surprisingly good for its size and weight. The saddle is comfortable but it would take some time for one to find the most comfortable position to sit. Besides this the saddle-hand bar-leg peg relationship is spot on(even for a six footer like me). The only strain one can go through is when one tries to take the ride out of the cramped parking lot. The best part of the bike according to me is the super low tail section. The combi of the huge fender(without the pillion seat), low held tail unit comprising of the huge retro looking number plate and hansome looking tail lights is absolutely kick-ass. Coming back to the ride, it feels very planted and relaxed. The body roll never was a thing to worry about. Probably this is a bullet trait and me loving it as I am owning bullet for the first time. This is all for now guys. Will get back to you very soon. Happy thumping!

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