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some one could ans his quarries
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well a very well mature move ...
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^+1. Very correct. No offense here either.Originally posted by riot View PostRiding is a way of life. Sometimes, it might also be a way of giving life. So Ride safe. In both contexts.Comment
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Premises:Originally posted by honda_vings View Post
Its not all about the cc's. There are umpteen thousand factors that go into what the engine characteristic will finally shape out to be. Bikes which have different origins are usually different in characteristics and it is very difficult to get 2 different engines to ape the 'performance' of each other. So let us not compare the engine to R15's and anything above 150cc's that is available here.Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
As far as the 'why didn't they squeeze all the juice out of a twin cyl in Ninja' question goes, I'm sorry, I don't know why. Maybe it wouldn't churn out a decent average (this is India after all) if it did that?
Read up / google some more and increase ur accuracy buddy. (Noooo offence meant but) you were quoting some really skewed figures.
@Thread: So what do we discuss now?
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Well .I was talking about shear performance limits and not the character(the fashion/feel in which the performance is delivered) .I don't think I gave any skewed information .Its just a matter of point of view of how you interpret it.That's why i decided to stop the topic here itself .Originally posted by s_and_m View PostPremises:
Its not all about the cc's. There are umpteen thousand factors that go into what the engine characteristic will finally shape out to be. Bikes which have different origins are usually different in characteristics and it is very difficult to get 2 different engines to ape the 'performance' of each other. So let us not compare the engine to R15's and anything above 150cc's that is available here.
As far as the 'why didn't they squeeze all the juice out of a twin cyl in Ninja' question goes, I'm sorry, I don't know why. Maybe it wouldn't churn out a decent average (this is India after all) if it did that?
Read up / google some more and increase ur accuracy buddy. (Noooo offence meant but) you were quoting some really skewed figures.
@Thread: So what do we discuss now?
I don't want to merge a point of view thread in this thread .May be someday we'll have a big enough reason to open such a thread
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Seems poor CBR250 is no longer in the picture
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LOL, Xionite, I hope you're being sarcastic :P (lol)Originally posted by xionite View Posthilarious!!
eye opening. so going by your calculations...
please... tell me... what can a single cylinder 600cc R15 do???
and is it faster than an R1 too?
A 600cc ''R15'' is the R6 and I think it'll outperform the Ninja ZX-6R
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lol.. u decided to fly off on a completely different tangentOriginally posted by ZeNashB View PostLOL, Xionite, I hope you're being sarcastic :P (lol)
A 600cc ''R15'' is the R6 and I think it'll outperform the Ninja ZX-6R
How come we are discussing everything but the new Honda?Comment
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Yeah sorryOriginally posted by s_and_m View Postlol.. u decided to fly off on a completely different tangent
How come we are discussing everything but the new Honda?
I was just saying that a 600c R series bike by Yamaha won't be called R ''15''.... :P They name the digits according the CCs, so... anyway, I'm sure Xionite also knows that and was just being sarcastic :P
Coming back to the CBR250R .... why is it not an ''RR'' ?
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yes...Originally posted by ZeNashB View PostLOL, Xionite, I hope you're being sarcastic :P (lol)
A 600cc ''R15'' is the R6 and I think it'll outperform the Ninja ZX-6R the R6 is a 4 valves per cylinder Inline Four...
i was referring to his Single Cylinder calculation of
a 200cc R15 (technically an R20) being faster than a Ninja 250R...
was curious to know the numbers on a 600cc version of the R15.
all info credible info is on the first post of this thread.Originally posted by s_and_m View Post
but it's definitely fun to read thru all the wishes/hopes/dreams/pricing everyone has for this bike..
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HehOriginally posted by xionite View Post yea! evey single time. remember the mojo thread?
@Zee: yea .. i knew that
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Highly unlikely that the specs will differ.Originally posted by honda_vings View Post
Tell me one thing which wouldn't suit Indian conditions? (in case you have gone through the spec sheet)
Are you the great Larry Wachowski him/her self?its not necessary that a twin cylinder is always better then single cylinder .It simply depends on the technologies that undergo into the engine.e.g. top speed of 150cc R15 is 150kmph and that of ninja is less then 170kmph .A 200cc single cylinder R15 can easily beat ninja 250r .Ninja definitely have two cylinder but no special engineering to squeeze all the juice out of the engine.So there is a possibility of single cylinder outperforming twin cylinder.
**** man that was some rocket-science.Comment
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MAYBE to make the bike a bit more fuel efficient they will change the specs. Moreover they are saying that this bike is a tourer so i think they will try to make this bike more fuel efficient so that it can have a longer range.Originally posted by sheelpriye View PostNOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THATComment
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The bike is the same throughout for all countries. They can't make FE in one part and guzzler in the other.Originally posted by madhav krishna View Post
What makes you guys think that gas mileage isn't important in other part of the world? Its more important, as someone who would spend 1.5L in India on a bike will be less worried than a learner in States riding this for his/her license.Comment
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RR Stands for Race Replica. Hence, RR is used after 600cc and 1000cc bikes as they're expected to be road-based replicas of their racing bikes.Originally posted by ZeNashB View PostYeah sorry I was just saying that a 600c R series bike by Yamaha won't be called R ''15''.... :P They name the digits according the CCs, so... anyway, I'm sure Xionite also knows that and was just being sarcastic :P
Coming back to the CBR250R .... why is it not an ''RR'' ?
As for CBR 250, it doesn't seem to be replica of any racing bike.
Even the Faired Hornet is called CBR 600 "F". I believe these recent CBR's shouldn't be too track focussed...
And did someone tell you, R15 has some 17PS and Ninja has some 33PS, almost double? And what about gearing? Is it same in both bikes, due to which you're comparing top speeds only?its not necessary that a twin cylinder is always better then single cylinder .It simply depends on the technologies that undergo into the engine.e.g. top speed of 150cc R15 is 150kmph and that of ninja is less then 170kmph .A 200cc single cylinder R15 can easily beat ninja 250r .Ninja definitely have two cylinder but no special engineering to squeeze all the juice out of the engine.So there is a possibility of single cylinder outperforming twin cylinder.
I suggest you to google & learn more about these topics:- Gearing, Gear Ratios, Torque vs Power, Torque curve, etc. and you should be able to better understand what I mean...---
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