A small correction. Actually this thread has no direction now.

this is what I meant with permutations and combinations. Dont think of pinnacle of technologies...you can also make a huge piston of space age materials which are not so space age at all and make it super light to dish out 100Nm torque. Bikes with super space age materials and technologies do exist too. But the costs are equally sky high...like superbikes out there.
That is why the mention of "budget bikes" which both the CBR and the Ninja250R are. There is no hard and fast rule in extracting performance out an engine at all for the more money you throw in its development the more performance you will be able to extract. So, yes...there may exist a 400cc engine with a piston so light that it will complete a cycle at the rate of an electron in hadron collider. But thats of no pertinence as thats not the kind of bike which is being at the subject of this discussion.
The discussion is " A single doesnt necessarily have to be inferior to a twin"
Through examples of certain 400ccs being lighter than 220s(the pistons) you are confirming the same and are in agreement to whatever I am trying to imply too. I am choosing to present the current example of CBR250R and Ninja250R as a testimony to the fact that
"A single doesnt necessarily have to be inferior to a twin"
Exactly what Honda_vings was trying to do..or so I thought he was trying to do. I am only attempting to defend this point of view. I am not trying to say that the CBR is better than the Ninja nor vice versa.

Yes...a Single doesn't necessarily have to be inferior to a twin. There are no absolutes.

We have to rack our brains and weigh the pros and cons of single Vs twin just becuase honda decided to put a single cylinder mill in their 250.

Affordability (single) VS affinity (towards the twin) I say

Nyah! You missed the point. The point is what both GS and TenHut are making, in simple terms there are extremes in either ends, just because this RX pwnd the Ninja it doesnt mean that the RX is a better 'performing' bike. Its a tricked out bike, and that doesnt imply a stock RX is a much more reliable than Ninja either because it is not pushed to its limit.


Thats definitely NOT what he claimed... and hence people jumped on it!


Perfect

Khuda ka shukra hai ki two intelligent people have now agreed to reduce their disagreement to the maximum possible agreement.

main purpose of putting single cylinder is cost cutting.cbr is definetely not better than ninja performance wise because kawasaki guys are not idiots to increasee thier production cost by giving two cylinder,its there for some reason.

Currently I ride a Zma-R. I always wanted to do a little modification on my ride to reflect my taste.
1. A little more power
2. Rear Disc
3. Fatter Tyres
4. Mono shocks
5. Clipons handlebars

And hellooo! what have we here?

aww! Honda..you shouldn't have..

BTW, I have no relation with Honda and had no influence whatsoever in designing the CBR250...... honest

I remember similar agreements/disagreements happened in MOJO thread also till the time it was released. Before every release we raise our expectations higher and higher and at the end of it *PUFF*

Contact Joel. The FFE will give you some boost in power.

Why

At least this time the official images and specs (more or less) are out.. I don't see any real chance of a disappointment this time.

The only possible spoil sport could be an inflated pricing.

according to me it was just very basic manipulation .wht's so rocketing in that ?

+1
over some websites i have seen people askin for multi-purpose pre-programmed ecu through which they can choose between power/sports mode or economy/power saver mode like it is there in some high end cars and i think in suzuki gs150r also .Similarly there are many all-in-one demand from indian people which may or may not be considered .For more info you can google and find the difference between honda unicorn and dio in india and the ones that are exported from india.
yeap iknw much more about these things then i need to knw .wht u r saying is obviously right but why u r saying this to me.I never said R15 is faster den Ninja .Only the top thrill is very closely differentiable according to the huge price and cc difference.Now this is also right and is my take on both the bikes.If ninja was priced arond 1.75 lacs I wud have been among the first buyers but somethings disappointed me which I said .Hopefully the Ninja price will be revised after or even before the launch of Honda ...

And just go to permalink #518 of this thread .This what I said and this is where u all misinterpretted it "a single cylinder is not necessarily inferior to twin cylinder"

I think you should also join the Ninja price down down aandolan going on this thread. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/154...ki-motors.html

The CBR250R makes it to the HMSI website.

Thanks to CSajal for the headsup.

since this is a sports tourer as termed by honda,i dont see any battery specifications anywhere...is it a 5,6 or 9 amp battery? also is teh stock lighting set up a 35 or 55W one... asking this cause am perfectly happy with my 220 lights,lower being a HID and high beam being a osram.... and till date no battery issues....i know its too early but would be nice if anyone has any info

Even the power & torque figures are not specified. Leave alone the battery specs.