It is the fact that fuel costs a bit costlier in india & a lot of people worry about it.

Check this YouTube - Maruti Suzuki Kitna Deti Hai - Tank TVC

Or even this YouTube - Maruti Suzuki Kitna Deti Hai - Yacht TVC

I should go and sue Kawasaki. My Ninja has two cylinders of approximately 125 cc's each. Since the top speed of a 125 cc commuter bike (say, discover dtsi) is around 115, my bike should go at least 115+115 = 230 km/hr.

And instead I am stuck at 176km/hr!

Cool bro. Take it easy.


Come on guys why are you all going gaga just over a single post?? Come back to topic now.

Check other countries prices too. Cee bee aar will be a premium offering and its target consumer isn't the uncle executive.



Try calculating a Veyron's top-end

Are you talking about Cee Bee Aar or Cee Bee (uu)F ??


BTW i was just guessing. And AFAIK this Cee Bee aar is the smaller brother of the 1000aar aar.

Moreover the honda is making a bike in low cost so it would obviously think about keeping the running costs low.

R15 does 150 kmh and the Ninja's top speed IS a little under 170kmh
That the Ninja250R isnt a juiced up machine is true too. Its based on a very old but practicle and economical motor. The Ninja although revamped in year 2008 still shares its DNA with its older pre 08 Ninja 250R.
That the R15 is a well bred race machine is true too.
That a twin cylider doesnt neccesarily mean its gotta be better than a single is true too. A big single will have a way of delivering that torque pulse way in the bottom end. A twin can only dream of that. But sure it will lack in horsepower because it will lack in rev'ability.

Umm..so..why are we bashing up this Honda_Ving guy again ?

^^ And yeah ride it off a cliff and then it will do a 150kmph!

I think that is where it all started(the italicized part). It really depends on what you call 'better' doesnt it? If you want Bullet-ish torque from ur machine to call it better, then a big single will have a way of delivering that torque pulse way in the bottom end, that a twin can only dream of.

Expecting a big single to churn out bhp's like a twin of the same cubic capacity can is where I begged to differ. And I still do.

@Thread: Checked out the tentative UK specs.. they are really pushing better FE as a feature (its in thr press kit). And they are harping about low maintenance costs and low weight of the bike coz of the single cyl engine as opposed to a scenario with a multi-cyl engine.

Can some1 plz explain what 'Throttle Bore' means? the Bore x Stroke is given as 76x55 mm and throttle bore is given as 38mm. What is the significance of throttle bore and why did they have to mention the radius and diameter of the inside of the cyl separately? (It's there in the UK spec sheet on the link that sheel provided)

ROFL .. ...

OT: where the other smilies gone ... ??... i can find only standard smilies

Rubbish. Ever had a chance to ride an RD350 or even the Ninja 250R? How can more suddenly become less? You can argue that a V-twin will have more torque than a parallel twin and in many cases this is true. But stating that a single will have more torque than a twin of same capacity is like saying that you can reproduce better with just one testicle.

Half the number of pistons, bores, rings, valves, valvetrains, connecting rods, bearings, spark plugs, gaskets, throttle bodies etc. will definitely mean that there is less to go wrong and it will be cheaper to manufacture.

Throttle bore is the inside diameter of the throttle body through which the air passes into the compression chamber regulated by a butterfly valve. Fuel enters through the injectors so throttle body only regulates the amount of air.

Stock throttle bodies are designed with fuel efficiency and driveability in mind. Somewhere on top of the list of mods by a tuner is installing a bigger throttle body - sort of like dropping in a bigger carburetor. Not sure how much it affects the bottom end but it can give significant improvements in top end performance.

Carbs combine the work of a throttle body AND the fuel injectors.

the actual Top speed of Ninja is 150 KMPH...so i assume the actual Top Speed of this CBR will be Not more then 145 kmph

I own an R15 and I feel ashamed when someone compares it to a Ninja250R. My bike is good, but to over-estimate and put it on an altar next to the best twincyl. 250cc bike in world is definitely idiocy. Talking of a 150kmpg on the bike is, in plain words, ridiculous. I've tried everything to push it beyond 145 (even lost weight), and it doesn't budge

The Ninja might only do 165-176kmph top speed, BUT its how fast and how easily it gets there is what makes it so awesome! No R15, even the best of race-spec tuned and modified by the best of tuners can match a stock Ninja250R in a 0-top speed drag


Coz he's saying very silly things How would you feel if someone compared an R6 with your Fireblade

LOL @ sarcasm

Won't be adding anything more as it would be OT. Head to Joel's thread for more.

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And please for heaven' sake, why on earth are we even bringing a R15 and 250R in the same frame? Lets end this here, shall we?

As things stand the CBR can be compared (to the 250R) only because it has same cubic capacity and perhaps churns out same amount of turning force. Everywhere else, the 250R by Kawasaki is streets ahead.

I think you missed his lines. He meant 0-top speed.

A 'tuned' R15 will only catch up with a Ninja 250R at those speeds if it has another Ninja250R pushing it from behind.

Whatever, lets end this crap here.

Honda's 250 (single) vs Kawa's 250 (twin) and Yamaha's 150 It is un-fair.