Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[kaynmantis]

thanks for info bro earlier i think that bi xenon have two beam but i was wrong thanks puneet

Bi xenon has two beams. What @Puneet1 is talking about is the projector, not the bulb. Some projectors has mechanism to move the shields that cuts off portion of light to project lo-beam. Meaning when shield is activated, half of light is shaded. When shield is deactivated, no shade, so entire light is projected on the road for hi-beam. All the time, the bulb remains static and have no role in it.

Where as in Bi-xenon bulbs, the bulb itself has mechanism to move the bulb to give the same effect of dual filament bulb like H4. A bi-xenon will work in conventional reflector (conventional headlight that uses H4 bulb), but will have no effect on a projector.

In simple term..
In Bi-xenon, the bulbs does the hi-lo function and works in conventional reflector.
In projector, the projectors does the hi-lo function, the bulb has only single beam.

Note: A hi-lo projectors are rare. Most cars/bikes use single beam projector and instead uses two lamps. One for low and the other for high.

[sunilg]

HI FRIENDS I NEED U R VALUABLE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT FITTING HID ON MY 220

PLEASE HELP ME OUT..

Q 1 . DOES THIS BULB JUST REPLACING THE EXISTING 1 OR , DOES IT NEED TO ADD
MORE WIRES AND RELAY ETC..??

Q 2 . DOES IT DRAINS BATTERY.. COMPARED TO THE COMPANY FITTED ONE..??

Q 3 . WHERE SHOULD I FIT HID..? @ LOW BEAM OR @ HIGH BEAM... OR BOTH ?
(heard that hid bulbs will take time to glow completely.. )

Q 4 . HOW MUCH MONEY SHOULD I SPEND FOR THIS BULBS..?? my max budget is 4000 k
(need pure blue or pure white one with nice view)

Q 5 . AND FINALLY WHICH ONE SHOULD I BUY.. AND COST..?

Topic approved and merged.

STOP writing in CAPITAL letters on xBhp, this is considered shouting in internet language.

[kaynmantis]

Originally Posted by aljuajay
HI FRIENDS I NEED U R VALUABLE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT FITTING HID ON MY 220

PLEASE HELP ME OUT..

Q 1 . DOES THIS BULB JUST REPLACING THE EXISTING 1 OR , DOES IT NEED TO ADD
MORE WIRES AND RELAY ETC..??

Q 2 . DOES IT DRAINS BATTERY.. COMPARED TO THE COMPANY FITTED ONE..??

Q 3 . WHERE SHOULD I FIT HID..? @ LOW BEAM OR @ HIGH BEAM... OR BOTH ?
(heard that hid bulbs will take time to glow completely.. )

Q 4 . HOW MUCH MONEY SHOULD I SPEND FOR THIS BULBS..?? my max budget is 4000 k
(need pure blue or pure white one with nice view)

Q 5 . AND FINALLY WHICH ONE SHOULD I BUY.. AND COST..?

1. You need to replace stock halogen bulb with HID bulb. HID kit comes with its wiring along with the ballast. Without ballast, HID will not work.

2. HID consumes lesser battery than halogen.

3. You can opt for bi-xenon HID bulb. A bi-xenon bulb behaves like dual filament halogen bulb as in H4 for High-Low beam. Normal HID bulb behaves like single filament halogen bulb so therefore does not have high-low function.

4. Note: HID bulb alone will not work. You need to buy the entire kit. The entire kit has (a) Bulb (b) Ballast (C) Wirings. Most shop sells HID kit for cars so they come in pairs that may cost anywhere from 4 to 12 k. Some people buy a kit and divide it for two bikes. Don't know whether single unit are available.

[sajjt]

Bi xenon has two beams. What @Puneet1 is talking about is the projector, not the bulb. Some projectors has mechanism to move the shields that cuts off portion of light to project lo-beam. Meaning when shield is activated, half of light is shaded. When shield is deactivated, no shade, so entire light is projected on the road for hi-beam. All the time, the bulb remains static and have no role in it.

Where as in Bi-xenon bulbs, the bulb itself has mechanism to move the bulb to give the same effect of dual filament bulb like H4. A bi-xenon will work in conventional reflector (conventional headlight that uses H4 bulb), but will have no effect on a projector.

In simple term..
In Bi-xenon, the bulbs does the hi-lo function and works in conventional reflector.
In projector, the projectors does the hi-lo function, the bulb has only single beam.

Note: A hi-lo projectors are rare. Most cars/bikes use single beam projector and instead uses two lamps. One for low and the other for high.

Good going dude.

A small update on the above:

Its true that a projector can accommodate only one light source bcz of its design. But the whole industry has taken this term "Bixenon" for a dual beam HID projector.

The "Bi-xenon" term was derived at the time of H4 HID. Later the dual beam projectors were introduced and the term Bi xenon was used extensively to refer H4 HID projectors all around the industry. Now its become a standard terminology to refer dual beam projectors.

BTW, now the trend is along with the Bi Xen projectors and its very easy to source than a dedicated beam projectors. If you google for projectors you can see bixen projectors are flooding and its hard to find dedicated beams and that too highly priced.

You can opt for bi-xenon HID bulb. A bi-xenon bulb behaves like dual filament halogen bulb as in H4 for High-Low beam. Normal HID bulb behaves like single filament halogen bulb so therefore does not have high-low function.

Most shop sells HID kit for cars so they come in pairs that may cost anywhere from 4 to 12 k. Some people buy a kit and divide it for two bikes. Don't know whether single unit are available.

You cant put a Bixenon (H4) HID on a projector, first its not possible bcz of its bulb base difference, if somehow you've managed to fit into a single beam projector, still you wont get the light outside as the focus will be different. You can only see that the lens is light up but there wont be any beam spread.

P220 has got dual setup, low beam is projector which uses H7 bulb, so you can use only H7 HID for this. You cant play around with projectors as the beam spread will be sacrificed once you tamper with it. Its not like the reflectors as the entire beam spread purely depends on focus and thats based on the bulb position with the reflector. If any thing changes, there wont be beam spread to outside as desired.

Ofcourse for high beam you can use a HID of H7 base but you will loose the ability to flash as it will take time to lightup in full brightness. Its better to stick to stock halogen if you want this function and I would suggest to go for halogen only as its a life saving device at times.

Nowadays there are lot of single HID kits available in the markets for bikes. But there was a time where its hard to find single kits as it was considered that HID will not be supported by the puny batteries in bikes. Now almost 50% of the bikes are full DC a good sign in safety parameters as the DC lighting will offer flicker free light output if your battery is in good health.

[luvurbike]

Ofcourse for high beam you can use a HID of H7 base but you will loose the ability to flash as it will take time to lightup in full brightness. Its better to stick to stock halogen if you want this function and I would suggest to go for halogen only as its a life saving device at times.

I want to put an HID in my ZMR but worried about this point... What should I do??

[vineeth aredath]

You can opt for bi-xenon HID bulb. A bi-xenon bulb behaves like dual filament halogen bulb as in H4 for High-Low beam. Normal HID bulb behaves like single filament halogen bulb so therefore does not have high-low function.

You cant put a Bixenon (H4) HID on a projector, first its not possible bcz of its bulb base difference, if somehow you've managed to fit into a single beam projector, still you wont get the light outside as the focus will be different..

Gurus is this bixen bulb (shield type ) available in h7 base. I hope its not but just for clarification.

[sajjt]

Gurus is this bixen bulb (shield type ) available in h7 base. I hope its not but just for clarification.

Hey, bixenon means dual beam and H7 is single beam now you do the rest

[sajjt]

I want to put an HID in my ZMR but worried about this point... What should I do??

If you are a die hard HID fan then go for H4 HID with halogen high beam combo kit where you can flash with this.

[luvurbike]

If you are a die hard HID fan then go for H4 HID with halogen high beam combo kit where you can flash with this.

Wow... thanks Sajjt... I'm hearing this first time that this thing exists... Do you know the approx. cost and where I can order this online??

[vineeth aredath]

Hey, bixenon means dual beam and H7 is single beam now you do the rest

Done!

[pronoy_banerjee]

I would be installing LED array tail lamp for my Zma,
Need advise on electricals and mounting..

tail lamp is 5W X 2
brake is 21W X 2

[Shreeni0403]

I would be installing LED array tail lamp for my Zma,
Need advise on electricals and mounting..

tail lamp is 5W X 2
brake is 21W X 2

In simple put 2 strips of LED so for ZMA its 4 strips.

You get strips of different length and brightness. Which you can differentiate for tail lamp/break lamp.

[pronoy_banerjee]

Are LED Cluster Bulbs available with any1 you know who can ship it...

[pronoy_banerjee]

Hey Guys im in need of a lil help here,

My 2004 Zma's recently installed 9ah battery run out in a weeks time (charged twice),
Load:

55/60W headlamp
5/21W X2 tail/brake light
5W X4 turn signal

Thats it, even a stock 7ah battery should be able to take that kind of load,

i ride the bike for a decent stretch , it gets charged , so i know the charger is working,
i guess the coil is unable to charge the battery, or may be it got damaged in the accident i had many months ago, the battery(7ah back then) is problematic, since.

i want to get the coil rewinded,

could you guys let me know the exact gauge / number of turns / length of wire,
or any other detail i need to keep in mind,

AND

Is there any way , i can check if the coil is producing enough juice / the RR / the charger....

[sajjt]

Wow... thanks Sajjt... I'm hearing this first time that this thing exists... Do you know the approx. cost and where I can order this online??

This is one of the first type of H4 HID (low cost) ask any accessory shop who can give more than 6 months warranty. Cost will be around 2K max