Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[Shreeni0403]

Planning a HID for my ride... thought of 55w/35w (upper/dipper) set... the question was, do i need 2 separate ballast for that namely 55w and 35w ballast respectively? or will a 55w ballast light up a 35w bulb without any side effects?

unbelievable... all Gurus here and no one knows the solution to my problem??

35w HID needs 35w ballast and 55w HID needs 55w ballast.

You need two separate ballasts to light up two HID's, no matter even if they are of same "w".

For a P220, I would suggest 55w on low and 35w HID on high. 35w itself is insane on the ellipsoidal lens of P220F !!

[kinshuk.arya]

can a fz stock electrical system support one 35W and one 55W HID?

[Raneet]

35w HID needs 35w ballast and 55w HID needs 55w ballast.

You need two separate ballasts to light up two HID's, no matter even if they are of same "w".

For a P220, I would suggest 55w on low and 35w HID on high. 35w itself is insane on the ellipsoidal lens of P220F !!

Ok. Are you cent percent sure? because I thought just as a 55w electrical setup can support 35w halogens as well, won't a 55w ballast also do the same? I mean the only difference between a 12v 55w setup and a 12v 35w setup is the amp which is directly proportional to the consumption. so I thought maybe a 55w ballast produces more amp as compared to a 35w ballast and if there is no other difference, a 55w ballast should be able to support a lesser watts bulb right? I mean I am not tom sure so thought of pulling it up here. please provide your valuable feedback bro.

[Raneet]

can a fz stock electrical system support one 35W and one 55W HID?

nope. moreover fz will need a bixenon which is h4 if I am not mistaken. pulsar 220 needs h7 as we have separate high beam and low beam. but fz can smoothly support a 35w h4 (bixenon).

[Rahulbarik]

well regarding the 6000k and 4300k i can't really agree with you, 6000k looks brighter but 4300k gives more visibility. Local HIDs will not show much effect on the output only but on the battery. it's the ballast for which price differs. HID bulbs cost 500-600 only that too the one's which are of well known brands.



unbelievable... all Gurus here and no one knows the solution to my problem??

yes thats right..... The cheaper hids will definitely consume more power..... If one can afford the branded ones, its definitely better to buy those.... And regarding the kelvin, i think 4300k gives better light only in theory.....and in completely dark roads and highways.... Under streetlights u cant feel the light..... I frequently have a fight with my friend regarding this issue as he have a 4300k on his rtr and i have a 6000k.... We keep on comparing both side by side and the 6000k is much brighter in public roads while on dark roads its the 4300k that wins...bt by a very little margin. U cant tell much difference.... Moral- 4300k has better light bt in dark roads. Bt if u want to go insane in public then 6000k is the way to go....
p.s. My friend is using 12000k in his pulsar..... Everything is blue.... bt looks damn sexy

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

yes thats right..... The cheaper hids will definitely consume more power..... If one can afford the branded ones, its definitely better to buy those.... And regarding the kelvin, i think 4300k gives better light only in theory.....and in completely dark roads and highways.... Under streetlights u cant feel the light..... I frequently have a fight with my friend regarding this issue as he have a 4300k on his rtr and i have a 6000k.... We keep on comparing both side by side and the 6000k is much brighter in public roads while on dark roads its the 4300k that wins...bt by a very little margin. U cant tell much difference.... Moral- 4300k has better light bt in dark roads. Bt if u want to go insane in public then 6000k is the way to go....
p.s. My friend is using 12000k in his pulsar..... Everything is blue.... bt looks damn sexy

blue HID's are useless in fog & rain, visibility is compromised... 4300K is optimum for reliable visibility.

[sunny_]

i'll prefer 6000k over 4300k.... As in 6000k, the light is mre concencrated and visible even under streetlights. But in 4300k, u'll only feel the light in total dark areas.... And why do you want to go for philips? Its costly yaar.... The cheaper ones are available in wellington, and the light is awesum. I bought mine for 1100 rupees from dev da wellington.... You cant even stare at my light when it glows at full intensity. The cheaper ones are not that bad..... You can try it.... No time loss when shifting between hi/lo.. And yea you cant use flasher in hid unless and until the bulb is warmed up. And using flasher in hid is not advisable because it loads the wiring....

well regarding the 6000k and 4300k i can't really agree with you, 6000k looks brighter but 4300k gives more visibility. Local HIDs will not show much effect on the output only but on the battery. it's the ballast for which price differs. HID bulbs cost 500-600 only that too the one's which are of well known brands.



unbelievable... all Gurus here and no one knows the solution to my problem??

Should I buy a kit from Jaipur, where I am these days or should I wait to come to Kolkata, and then meet you dear buddies, consult, disscuss and then go for one?

[Rahulbarik]

blue HID's are useless in fog & rain, visibility is compromised... 4300K is optimum for reliable visibility.

i know blue ones are useless. Thats why i said evrything is blue. He is using it for looks only. He have 4 sets of hid. Keeps on changing

[Rahulbarik]

Should I buy a kit from Jaipur, where I am these days or should I wait to come to Kolkata, and then meet you dear buddies, consult, disscuss and then go for one?

you better buy it from kolkata....if anything goes wrong you can go to the shop and ask for replacement...... and check out two hids side by side and then buy.....

[Raneet]

Should I buy a kit from Jaipur, where I am these days or should I wait to come to Kolkata, and then meet you dear buddies, consult, disscuss and then go for one?

or you can even buy it from Delhi on the way back. honestly speaking 4300k is considered the optimum because 6000k is terrible in rain and fog.

[sunny_]

you better buy it from kolkata....if anything goes wrong you can go to the shop and ask for replacement...... and check out two hids side by side and then buy.....

or you can even buy it from Delhi on the way back. honestly speaking 4300k is considered the optimum because 6000k is terrible in rain and fog.

Ok then I'm postponing the HID setup till I come to Kolkata, and yes even I would have preferred New Delhi but I'll be going via Agra although I came via Delhi but didn't had enough time to check shops there.
Yes, I know about the visibility of 4300K is max and just wanted to know about the projectors as I'll be using HID only with a good projector.

[UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA]

Lighting for rtr 180

Hi guys ,
After going through many pages of this thread i have some ques...but let me introduce my bike's setup before the ques.

the rtr 180 is runing on a MOTOHID(chinese)-6000k HID since last 5 months...the light spread is very good....and i dont knw how the guy managed to fit the hid without any rr change or other stuff he has just joined 2 wires and installed 2 relays and my bike runs hid for more than 1 hour very easily without any battery drain....and i also use the ROOTS WINDTONE horns on my bike....

Recently i got a angel eye installed in my headlight and from tht day the headlight has become very dusty...nd when i took it to the mech he said tht opening it again will break the light.....though i found a shopkeeper who says he can open it.....so my ques are

1.Where to source the p220's projector for my bike as i seriously want a large beam spread projector....(IN PUNJAB OR DELHI)
2.Can i fit my older hid into this projector dome or not as im not in a mood of selling the old one as it has both halogen and hid
3.As im already satidfied with the charging of my coil...i just wanted to knw tht if i change the Ape rr on my bike will it convert it into dc...(no relation to coil rewinding)
4.As my frend on his rtr 160 wants to run the stock bulbs on dc or maybe an hid can he just change tht rr and use a relay to use the stock bulbs or hid on dc
5.AS READ IN MANY PLACES DOES COIL REWINDING REALLY REDUCE THE TOP END POWER..if yes then im ready to ride without hl

Plzz reply asap

[drvmtm]

@sajjit-life is fetal ultrasonography now and too much busy to ensure other peoples wife and the life inside in those lady's are all correct.no time to even think about my own wife now,at least for coming 3 years...

@lijo- where is the update?

@raneet-you are asking shree as is he cent percent sure or not,man!he is "THE MAN", one of the most well known in this field with abhijit and last but def not the least sajjit. thease guys are very sure and rock solid about there knowledge.

if you want to go for hids then go for 4300k(true and good quality,not the fake 4300ks).35 waat is enough ,leaver the hi beam as it is,is a life saver in highways to flash.if you want hi beam hid then add a good hella comet 450 in side guard.
55 watt is def overkill and strain the battery in long run.

@sunny-are you looking for the bixenon projectors?look out in ebay or kolkatta wellington.deb used to have some decent gooodies and you will atleast have some decent peace of mind.but make sure the color temp is 4300k,anything more then that is useless,specially a 6000k or higher.you will loose your safety.

@rahul b-dada,6k hid will be visible below street light and a 4300k will not,that dosent mean that the 6k is better in city.if you switch on 6k in daytime also,there is a chance it will be visible as the sheere diff of ct,it dosent mean that its better then sunlight.A TRUE 4300K HID WITH PROPER FOCUS IS THE BEST when you want better visibility.and 6 k and more are very very useless in case of bad weather.getting a true 4300k is very diff in kolkatta.better contact the man ,navnish in xbhp from bangalore.he is having some quality kits.
also if your ride is not fully dc converted it will eventually die of low batt if you use the ride more then 1 hour with hid on,ac+dc is never good with hids.get it converted to full dc.if you look into the threads you will find the problems.and never even think to add the ac line to batt after a custom rectifier,it will eventually endup in a ball of fire.

[srbhsgr]

Helps Me With My P150Dts-i

Plz helps me with my p150
i want to open the headlight box of my p150 but i cant open it,i open all the screws but still i cant,can u plz explain it by images

[sunny_]

@sunny-are you looking for the bixenon projectors?look out in ebay or kolkatta wellington.deb used to have some decent gooodies and you will atleast have some decent peace of mind.but make sure the color temp is 4300k,anything more then that is useless,specially a 6000k or higher.you will loose your safety.

Yes bro, I'm looking for anything which has more brightness, spread and throw than any 100w halogen and which has a good life so that I'm not worried about it as well as my battery for 2 years or so.