Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[vivekgautams]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

That's the shop where most of the guys buy and was introduced to me by @snehithpereira.. 650 bucks for the 3000k Bulb alone rite?

Yup, only bulb..

The last pic looks to be taken from a low level, so the glare should not be as its visible in the pic.
Why is your high beam pretty closely focused compared to that of CeeBeeAar?

I'v reduced the projection length so that the oncoming vehicles will not get effected by the glare..

[Adarsh_Bk]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

@vivekgautams : You couldve gone for 4300k as it is street legal.. 3000k feels too yellow IMO.

Anyways the output does seem good but do keep the stock bulb with you always esp on highways. You can never rely on these Chinese HIDs! You dont want to be stuck without lights at night.

[vivekgautams]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

@vivekgautams : You couldve gone for 4300k as it is street legal.. 3000k feels too yellow IMO.

Anyways the output does seem good but do keep the stock bulb with you always esp on highways. You can never rely on these Chinese HIDs! You dont want to be stuck without lights at night.

I'v been using a 6000K made in China HID from the past 2-2.5 years & have done many night rides without any problem.. Except the problem of riding in rain or fog.. Hence shifted to the 3000K.. 4300K is just like a Halogen but a bit more bright..

[Adarsh_Bk]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I'v been using a 6000K made in China HID from the past 2-2.5 years & have done many night rides without any problem.. Except the problem of riding in rain or fog.. Hence shifted to the 3000K.. 4300K is just like a Halogen but a bit more bright..

Hmm.. maybe you were lucky Anyways, just thought of suggesting you since I have heard quite a few chinese HIDs going kaput.

And just to clarify, 4300k is just the colour and the brightness of HID has nothing to do with it! It is measured in terms of lumens.

[bbsrailfan]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hmm.. maybe you were lucky Anyways, just thought of suggesting you since I have heard quite a few chinese HIDs going kaput.

[MENTION=47593]Adarsh_Bk[/MENTION] That quite true and one of the reasons I didn't go for a HID lighting...it's a purely hit-or-miss affair, like all other chinese products. Moreover, the brightness of HIDs tends to reduce with long usage.

Another thing to note is that the light output of a bulb measured in "lumens" is the total radiated light, across a 360 deg sphere. The devices required to measure the exact "lumen" output of a light source are huge and expensive photospheres and it's anyone's guess that the term "lumens" currently being used widely is a very vague term, mostly based on theoretical values. For example, a Cree XM-L T6 LED has a theoretical output of 91-100 lumens per watt, leading to a theoretical output of 1000 lumens when run at a 10W - which is entirely a theoretical value and not necessarily the actual brightness. The percentage of the total lumens actually reflected on to the road (and hence, "useful lumens" is a much lower number.

[Adarsh_Bk]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

@Adarsh_Bk That quite true and one of the reasons I didn't go for a HID lighting...it's a purely hit-or-miss affair, like all other chinese products. Moreover, the brightness of HIDs tends to reduce with long usage.

If you are really interested, why dont you go for philips? They are shit expensive but AFAIK it is the only company to offer 5 year warranty!! And moreover, usage of HIDs without projector is illegal in most countries due to glare, that is why projectors came into picture in the first place!

Another thing to note is that the light output of a bulb measured in "lumens" is the total radiated light, across a 360 deg sphere. The devices required to measure the exact "lumen" output of a light source are huge and expensive photospheres and it's anyone's guess that the term "lumens" currently being used widely is a very vague term, mostly based on theoretical values. For example, a Cree XM-L T6 LED has a theoretical output of 91-100 lumens per watt, leading to a theoretical output of 1000 lumens when run at a 10W - which is entirely a theoretical value and not necessarily the actual brightness. The percentage of the total lumens actually reflected on to the road (and hence, "useful lumens" is a much lower number.

I guess that is true, but at least the theoretical lumen gives you an approx idea of brightness the bulb will have.. Some vendors do provide operating lumens as well (eg 10W CREE LED Foglight, LED for Motorcycles India) which would be the actual brightness but in 360 degrees.

[bbsrailfan]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

If you are really interested, why dont you go for philips? They are shit expensive but AFAIK it is the only company to offer 5 year warranty!! And moreover, usage of HIDs without projector is illegal in most countries due to glare, that is why projectors came into picture in the first place!

I guess that is true, but at least the theoretical lumen gives you an approx idea of brightness the bulb will have.. Some vendors do provide operating lumens as well (eg 10W CREE LED Foglight, LED for Motorcycles India) which would be the actual brightness but in 360 degrees.

Adarsh, I'd rather switch to mainstream LED lighting once it becomes more affordable (which it will be, in a year or two). As of now thinking of upgrading from my existing NB Plus to the newly launched NB Unlimited

If you look a few posts up, I ordered a similar CREE LED light to use as an auxiliary lamp. It's got a manufacturer claimed 1200 lumen, but delving deep into the details revealed that it'd practically output somewhere around 800-850 lumen. - which doesn't sound too impressive but reviews are very positive from the fact that the projectors are adjustable - hence very little loss compared to reflectors. With the adjustable beams, I can use it in city with a wide/near focus for foglight/DRL purposes and on the highway, I can set a narrow/far focus to avoid nasty surprises.

[segagt_0]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Guys what do you think about this??? Am planning to keep it in place of the front number plate on my r15 v1 and use this as the high beam.. As the power consumption is just 60 watts, i don't even have to mess with the electricals and the charging.

[bbsrailfan]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Guys what do you think about this??? Am planning to keep it in place of the front number plate on my r15 v1 and use this as the high beam.. As the power consumption is just 60 watts, i don't even have to mess with the electricals and the charging.

Wow thats sure to be expensive as hell and heavy as a mortar. A 60W units will need a real heavy heat sink, making it too heavy to be mounted on the numberplate....BTW are those XMLT6 Leds or XML-U2 ones? AFAIK, the U2s have a better beam and are brighter compared to the T6s.

[snehithpereira]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Guys what do you think about this??? Am planning to keep it in place of the front number plate on my r15 v1 and use this as the high beam.. As the power consumption is just 60 watts, i don't even have to mess with the electricals and the charging.

Cree is a very good brand, I have personally used their flashlight and 18w floodlights on a friends jeep, total vfm but the said product for a bike such as the R15 I am not sure how durable your mounting idea is, I do hope you know that these weigh a little over 2.5kgs

Btw where are you sourcing it from? Do check amazon as they have cree products on great discounts

[segagt_0]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Wow thats sure to be expensive as hell and heavy as a mortar. A 60W units will need a real heavy heat sink, making it too heavy to be mounted on the numberplate....BTW are those XMLT6 Leds or XML-U2 ones? AFAIK, the U2s have a better beam and are brighter compared to the T6s.

I don't really know about the bulbs used as its not written in the spec sheet. But I'm sure it'll be damn bright... Regarding the mounting, its around 2 kgs as snehithpereira said and I'm planning to remove the front number plate and install it in its place. Will make a sticker on the windshield for number. I'll try mounting it on the number plate holder if it supports the weight, or else i'll make a better support using thicker metal at the same place. The spec sheet says as below -

■LED Power: 60W ■Amp Draw:5A /12V and 2.5A /24V ■Operating Voltage: 9-32V DC ■Waterproof rate: IP 68 ■6PCS*10W high intensity CREE LEDs ■Base Color: Black ■Color Temperature: 6500K ■Material: Diecast aluminum housing ■Lens material: Toughed glass ■Mounting Bracket: Alu firm bracket ■Beam Type:FLOOD & SPOT COMBO(2S / 2F / 2S) ■Life Span: 50000H ■Dimensions: 11 inch ■Size: 278*65*90mm

■ Theoretical Lumens Output: 5700 LM ■ Operating Lumens Output: 5160 LM ■Working temperature: -40~80℃ ■Casting Aluminum Alloy Housing ■TheQuart Lens with high light transmission ■Adjustable Mounting Brackets ■ Applying to difference light resource(Such HIGH LED Lamp) ■ The suitable design for heating elimination. ■ The high performance of tight waterproof,dustproof,quakeproof. ■ Anti explosion ■ Install light resource easily ■ The valid irradiation distance is much more longer than normal bulb. ■2 year warranty. ■Package included: 1PC 11inch 60W CREE LED Light Bar 2PCS Mounting Brackets

Cree is a very good brand, I have personally used their flashlight and 18w floodlights on a friends jeep, total vfm but the said product for a bike such as the R15 I am not sure how durable your mounting idea is, I do hope you know that these weigh a little over 2.5kgs

Btw where are you sourcing it from? Do check amazon as they have cree products on great discounts

Yes regarding the mounting I've described it above as of now. But let's see what additional mods do I have to do for the weight support, as there's still some time to get my hands on the product. I have sourced them from Australia from my sister as she lives there. I've also ordered this along with the light and my sleepless nights have already started...
ICON TIMAX TRX Titanium Road Motorcycle GLOVES

[bbsrailfan]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

The spec sheet says as below -

Operating Lumens Output: 5160 LM

Yeh, that's a lot of light! Do let us know once you have incorporated the mods....a comparison would be great!

I've also ordered this along with the light and my sleepless nights have already started...
ICON TIMAX TRX Titanium Road Motorcycle GLOVES

OT : I am also using Icon gloves and would swear by their quality. These titanium ones look great! What's the retail price?

[segagt_0]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Yeh, that's a lot of light! Do let us know once you have incorporated the mods....a comparison would be great!



OT : I am also using Icon gloves and would swear by their quality. These titanium ones look great! What's the retail price?

Sure will let you guys know once I get the light. But it won't be before than less than 20 days. So I'm trying to gain some patience...
The light is costing me around 110 AUD with shipping and the gloves cost 88 AUD with shipping.

[classic.infinity]

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The Light : Buddy Where are you sourcing it from ?
I am looking for 27w x 2 from Cree on ebay n amazon but dont know about shipping policy and tarrifs

[rx100.7050]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Guys,
I am putting up my question as a complete noob.

I have been thinking of adding some extra lights or installing HIDs on my P220. I have come across this product...

Hella - Premium Light Micro DE Set - Buy Car Exterior Accessories | Snapdeal.com

I definitely know atleast one member may have installed this product on his bike. Just wanted to know how straight fit is this item on my Pulsar 220 Fi bike. Please remember that my bike is an Fi and I don't want to screw the electrical system