Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[Redeemer]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

finally replaced the stock osrams with Philips XV 60/55 today in my apache 18. it is already direct DC[ABS version],so didn't have to worry about recoiling or convert. it was fun to open the headlamp cluster and refitting. had to struggle with the bulb holding spring though .

Must say it is worth the 650 rupees and the light improved dramatically for both high and low. Little worried about the reflector getting melt though . anyone with a apache 180 with any melting issue?

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Hs1 is the younger brother of H4.. I read it somewhere.. Same design socket on both, only difference is H4 is for larger vehicles, while Hs1 is for two wheelers..
H4 should be a fit..

True, H4 is a direct fit to HS1 socket.

[ghostofsparta]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I have installed hid in my R15V2 for the past 8 months and I had put that LED parking light 9 smd. Last week I saw that one of my parking light was not glowing, I checked it with the other socket then I came to know that it has worn out. Then I changed the parking light to my stock ones. Now the problem is without switching on the headlights the parking light glows fine. But when I switch on my headlights parking lights gets dimmed as if like voltage fluctuation. I have no idea what it is? Do you guys? :-/

Thanks
Cheers!!!!
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[DeVille]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

finally replaced the stock osrams with Philips XV 60/55 today in my apache 18. it is already direct DC[ABS version],so didn't have to worry about recoiling or convert. it was fun to open the headlamp cluster and refitting. had to struggle with the bulb holding spring though .

Must say it is worth the 650 rupees and the light improved dramatically for both high and low. Little worried about the reflector getting melt though . anyone with a apache 180 with any melting issue?

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True, H4 is a direct fit to HS1 socket.

Philips XV 60/55? Is that right? It's usually 55/60 as high beam has higher wattage than low.
Also is the light better than Osram nightbreaker?


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[nokstar]

HID Fix help on p200ns

Guys I need help on setup hid on p200ns
Can we remove the front glass of the light easily or we should hot air?
Any ideas about wiring?

[The Monk]

Re: HID Fix help on p200ns

Guys I need help on setup 55w hid with angle eyes on p200ns
Any guides or any ideas welcome.
Can we remove the front glass of the light easily or we should hot air?
Any ideas about wiring?

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[DeVille]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Guys, which 55/60 bulb gives better results- Osram Nightbreaker or Philips ExtremeVision? any other brand thats better?
Have read mixed reviews for both on this thread. Am fitting it on my old P200 and would go for H4 4300K.
Awaiting suggestions!


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[Pankaj Bhaban]

Installing 6800Lumen LED torch as Headlight

Hello friends,
I own Yamaha r15 v1.0 i had to drive 20-25 km at night in rural area and found stocks bulbs not good at all not able to see even road properly beam doesnt travell long, so a year back upgraded to HID 35X2=70 + Angel eyes 5X2=10 total 80 W Power combustion costing about 4.5K inr after 10 months HID died and use to drain battery a lot even after riding 30-45 mins complete battery drain use to occur.

Now wasnt willing to spend on light much so went with 55/60 Osram night breakers dual it produces good light but not up to my expectations, also bulbs getting extremely heated. Battery draining less compared to HID about 1hour to drain while driving.

Now looking for LED bulbs as

35/35 W stock halogen produced 810/810 lumen
55/60 W osram night breaker produced 1000/1250 lumen
Where as i found a LED 30 W with 6800 Lumen of light Torch! great. here's the link found on ebay.com Black Skyray 6800LUMEN 4 x CREE XML T6 LED Flashlight Torch for 4X 18650 Battery | eBay it comes with batteries for 30W 3.7 V that can be managed.

Can anyone suggest if i can install the same on Yamaha R15 replacing Halogen bulb in headlight? If so will this 6800 lumen really like great light on road? what circuit modification would be required, yeah instead of Cells will connect bike power using some relay or resistor to reduce voltage.

If i install 30X2 LED torch light bulbs or head projector of torch itself it would save 10W in total as well light would be 6800X2=13,600 Lumen! against just 2000 Lumen with Osram night breaker.
If can be done i shall do and upload picture and video soon.

[kannan11]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

the wiring won't be able to handle that much load you need to use relay for 55/60 watts bulb and as far is battery discharge issue is there than you can check only with the help of multimeter.



yes h4 type bulb would be used for that why don't you buy Philips x-treme vision those are cheap than the link which you had mentioned.

dude can we upgrade with 12V9AH battery inorder to get more power in 55/60w which we use

[rprathin]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

dude can we upgrade with 12V9AH battery inorder to get more power in 55/60w which we use

as i said before battery upgrade won't help until and unless the charging system is strong enough. Battery is a storage device.

[princesirohi]

Re: Installing 6800Lumen LED torch as Headlight

Hello friends,
I own Yamaha r15 v1.0 i had to drive 20-25 km at night in rural area and found stocks bulbs not good at all not able to see even road properly beam doesnt travell long, so a year back upgraded to HID 35X2=70 + Angel eyes 5X2=10 total 80 W Power combustion costing about 4.5K inr after 10 months HID died and use to drain battery a lot even after riding 30-45 mins complete battery drain use to occur.

Now wasnt willing to spend on light much so went with 55/60 Osram night breakers dual it produces good light but not up to my expectations, also bulbs getting extremely heated. Battery draining less compared to HID about 1hour to drain while driving.

Now looking for LED bulbs as

35/35 W stock halogen produced 810/810 lumen
55/60 W osram night breaker produced 1000/1250 lumen
Where as i found a LED 30 W with 6800 Lumen of light Torch! great. here's the link found on ebay.com Black Skyray 6800LUMEN 4 x CREE XML T6 LED Flashlight Torch for 4X 18650 Battery | eBay it comes with batteries for 30W 3.7 V that can be managed.

Can anyone suggest if i can install the same on Yamaha R15 replacing Halogen bulb in headlight? If so will this 6800 lumen really like great light on road? what circuit modification would be required, yeah instead of Cells will connect bike power using some relay or resistor to reduce voltage.

If i install 30X2 LED torch light bulbs or head projector of torch itself it would save 10W in total as well light would be 6800X2=13,600 Lumen! against just 2000 Lumen with Osram night breaker.
If can be done i shall do and upload picture and video soon.

some time ago i was also looking for LED motorcycle lights but could not find good enough at affordable cost, so when i saw your post, i instantly clicked it since the torch was promising something out of the world.

first of all let us understand some basics. how much light an HID produces, a 35w HID produces 35 X 90 = 3150 lumens.

what is 90 in above formula, 90 is the amount of lumens produced per watt. lumen is the unit of light output.

and this much output is the max you can get without switching to LED.

so what is the output of LED, 100 lumens per watt. so how much light a 30w LED torch produce = 30 X 100 = 3000 lumens

and 100 lumens per watt is among the best in world, in fact CREE is one of the best and top manufacturers of LED's.

here are the links to support the 100 lumens per watt for the same type of LED-->>

Cree Component XLamp XM-L LEDs

http://www.cree.com/~/media/Files/Cree/LED%20Components%20and%20Modules/XLamp/Data%20and%20Binning/XLampXML.pdf

CREE XM-L T6 Emitter by LED-TECH.de

so the claim made by that torch is false. it can not give 6800 lumens.

i suspect 6800 is the color temperature i.e. 6800K.

a review of similar type of light can be found here -->>

Review of Ebay: 1800 Lumen CREE XML T6 LED Bicycle HeadLight Lamp

the person has used it on his cycle.

what you need is something like this -->>

Led Motorcycle Headlight, Led Motorcycle Headlight Products, Led Motorcycle Headlight Suppliers and Manufacturers at Alibaba.com

Clearwater Glenda Motorcycle LED Driving Lights - webBikeWorld

Clearwater Lights High Powered LED Motorcycle Lights

Motorcycle LED Lights

there are many problems with LED that make is very difficult to use in vehicular headlights--

1) heat dissipation- LED needs large heat sinks to dissipate heat and so makes it bulky, to get an idea google LED streetlights to get an idea of how big a heat sink is required. that is why you can not run that torch for more than 10 mins since it does not have a good enough heat sink. if you run that torch fo more than 5-10 mins you will not be able to hold it for even 30 secs due to heat. this will make it to fail eventually.

2) second problem is light focus. LED's need complex optics to properly focus light.

best option is revert to HID and rewind the stator coil of your bike to match the requirement of HID, so that battery is not discharged and HID gets a longer life.

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Hello friends,
I own Yamaha r15 v1.0 i had to drive 20-25 km at night in rural area and found stocks bulbs not good at all not able to see even road properly beam doesnt travell long, so a year back upgraded to HID 35X2=70 + Angel eyes 5X2=10 total 80 W Power combustion costing about 4.5K inr after 10 months HID died and use to drain battery a lot even after riding 30-45 mins complete battery drain use to occur.

Now wasnt willing to spend on light much so went with 55/60 Osram night breakers dual it produces good light but not up to my expectations, also bulbs getting extremely heated. Battery draining less compared to HID about 1hour to drain while driving.

Now looking for LED bulbs as

35/35 W stock halogen produced 810/810 lumen
55/60 W osram night breaker produced 1000/1250 lumen
Where as i found a LED 30 W with 6800 Lumen of light Torch! great. here's the link found on ebay.com Black Skyray 6800LUMEN 4 x CREE XML T6 LED Flashlight Torch for 4X 18650 Battery | eBay it comes with batteries for 30W 3.7 V that can be managed.

Can anyone suggest if i can install the same on Yamaha R15 replacing Halogen bulb in headlight? If so will this 6800 lumen really like great light on road? what circuit modification would be required, yeah instead of Cells will connect bike power using some relay or resistor to reduce voltage.

If i install 30X2 LED torch light bulbs or head projector of torch itself it would save 10W in total as well light would be 6800X2=13,600 Lumen! against just 2000 Lumen with Osram night breaker.
If can be done i shall do and upload picture and video soon.

some time ago i was also looking for LED motorcycle lights but could not find good enough at affordable cost, so when i saw your post, i instantly clicked it since the torch was promising something out of the world.

first of all let us understand some basics. how much light an HID produces, a 35w HID produces 35 X 90 = 3150 lumens.

what is 90 in above formula, 90 is the amount of lumens produced per watt. lumen is the unit of light output.

and this much output is the max you can get without switching to LED.

so what is the output of LED, 100 lumens per watt. so how much light a 30w LED torch produce = 30 X 100 = 3000 lumens

and 100 lumens per watt is among the best in world, in fact CREE is one of the best and top manufacturers of LED's.

here are the links to support the 100 lumens per watt for the same type of LED-->>

http://www.cree.com/led-components-and-modules/products/xlamp/discrete-directional/xlamp-xml

http://www.cree.com/~/media/Files/Cree/LED%20Components%20and%20Modules/XLamp/Data%20and%20Binning/XLampXML.pdf

http://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Power-LEDs-Cree/CREE-XM-Serie/CREE-XM-L-T6-Emitter-LT-1731_120_170.html

so the claim made by that torch is false. it can not give 6800 lumens.

i suspect 6800 is the color temperature i.e. 6800K.

a review of similar type of light can be found here -->>

http://forums.mtbr.com/lights-night-riding/review-ebay-1800-lumen-cree-xml-t6-led-bicycle-headlight-lamp-759177.html

the person has used it on his cycle.

what you need is something like this -->>

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/led-motorcycle-headlight.html

http://www.webbikeworld.com/lights/motorcycle-led-driving-lights/

http://clearwaterlights.com/

http://www.motolight.com/product/LED%20Bulb%20Kit

there are many problems with LED that make is very difficult to use in vehicular headlights--

1) heat dissipation- LED needs large heat sinks to dissipate heat and so makes it bulky, to get an idea google LED streetlights to get an idea of how big a heat sink is required. that is why you can not run that torch for more than 10 mins since it does not have a good enough heat sink. if you run that torch fo more than 5-10 mins you will not be able to hold it for even 30 secs due to heat. this will make it to fail eventually.

2) second problem is light focus. LED's need complex optics to properly focus light.

best option is revert to HID and rewind the stator coil of your bike to match the requirement of HID, so that battery is not discharged and HID gets a longer life.

[abhi7013]

Re: Installing 6800Lumen LED torch as Headlight

some time ago i was also looking for LED motorcycle lights but could not find good enough at affordable cost, so when i saw your post, i instantly clicked it since the torch was promising something out of the world.

first of all let us understand some basics. how much light an HID produces, a 35w HID produces 35 X 90 = 3150 lumens.

what is 90 in above formula, 90 is the amount of lumens produced per watt. lumen is the unit of light output.

and this much output is the max you can get without switching to LED.

so what is the output of LED, 100 lumens per watt. so how much light a 30w LED torch produce = 30 X 100 = 3000 lumens

and 100 lumens per watt is among the best in world, in fact CREE is one of the best and top manufacturers of LED's.

here are the links to support the 100 lumens per watt for the same type of LED-->>

Cree Component XLamp XM-L LEDs

http://www.cree.com/~/media/Files/Cree/LED%20Components%20and%20Modules/XLamp/Data%20and%20Binning/XLampXML.pdf

CREE XM-L T6 Emitter by LED-TECH.de

so the claim made by that torch is false. it can not give 6800 lumens.

i suspect 6800 is the color temperature i.e. 6800K.

a review of similar type of light can be found here -->>

Review of Ebay: 1800 Lumen CREE XML T6 LED Bicycle HeadLight Lamp

the person has used it on his cycle.

what you need is something like this -->>

Led Motorcycle Headlight, Led Motorcycle Headlight Products, Led Motorcycle Headlight Suppliers and Manufacturers at Alibaba.com

Clearwater Glenda Motorcycle LED Driving Lights - webBikeWorld

Clearwater Lights High Powered LED Motorcycle Lights

Motorcycle LED Lights

there are many problems with LED that make is very difficult to use in vehicular headlights--

1) heat dissipation- LED needs large heat sinks to dissipate heat and so makes it bulky, to get an idea google LED streetlights to get an idea of how big a heat sink is required. that is why you can not run that torch for more than 10 mins since it does not have a good enough heat sink. if you run that torch fo more than 5-10 mins you will not be able to hold it for even 30 secs due to heat. this will make it to fail eventually.

2) second problem is light focus. LED's need complex optics to properly focus light.

best option is revert to HID and rewind the stator coil of your bike to match the requirement of HID, so that battery is not discharged and HID gets a longer life.

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some time ago i was also looking for LED motorcycle lights but could not find good enough at affordable cost, so when i saw your post, i instantly clicked it since the torch was promising something out of the world.

first of all let us understand some basics. how much light an HID produces, a 35w HID produces 35 X 90 = 3150 lumens.

what is 90 in above formula, 90 is the amount of lumens produced per watt. lumen is the unit of light output.

and this much output is the max you can get without switching to LED.

so what is the output of LED, 100 lumens per watt. so how much light a 30w LED torch produce = 30 X 100 = 3000 lumens

and 100 lumens per watt is among the best in world, in fact CREE is one of the best and top manufacturers of LED's.

here are the links to support the 100 lumens per watt for the same type of LED-->>

http://www.cree.com/led-components-and-modules/products/xlamp/discrete-directional/xlamp-xml

http://www.cree.com/~/media/Files/Cree/LED%20Components%20and%20Modules/XLamp/Data%20and%20Binning/XLampXML.pdf

http://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Power-LEDs-Cree/CREE-XM-Serie/CREE-XM-L-T6-Emitter-LT-1731_120_170.html

so the claim made by that torch is false. it can not give 6800 lumens.

i suspect 6800 is the color temperature i.e. 6800K.

a review of similar type of light can be found here -->>

http://forums.mtbr.com/lights-night-riding/review-ebay-1800-lumen-cree-xml-t6-led-bicycle-headlight-lamp-759177.html

the person has used it on his cycle.

what you need is something like this -->>

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/led-motorcycle-headlight.html

http://www.webbikeworld.com/lights/motorcycle-led-driving-lights/

http://clearwaterlights.com/

http://www.motolight.com/product/LED%20Bulb%20Kit

there are many problems with LED that make is very difficult to use in vehicular headlights--

1) heat dissipation- LED needs large heat sinks to dissipate heat and so makes it bulky, to get an idea google LED streetlights to get an idea of how big a heat sink is required. that is why you can not run that torch for more than 10 mins since it does not have a good enough heat sink. if you run that torch fo more than 5-10 mins you will not be able to hold it for even 30 secs due to heat. this will make it to fail eventually.

2) second problem is light focus. LED's need complex optics to properly focus light.

best option is revert to HID and rewind the stator coil of your bike to match the requirement of HID, so that battery is not discharged and HID gets a longer life.

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/new...ition-2011-06/

They say led is the future of automobile lighting.

And yup focusing the light is complex for which further research is going on. But its no doubt that LEDs are the future for lighting cause of their efficiency.
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[Divya Sharan]

Re: Installing 6800Lumen LED torch as Headlight

Agree to all points but then leds do not produce heat. On the contrary they are efficient than halogens and HIDs which discharge heat in the form of radiation into the surrounding. But LEDs do not. Hence the need of heat sinks. Read it here:-

True, unless they're IR LEDs. LEDs don't emit heat out to the surroundings, but they themselves run hotter. Hence, the need of a heat sink/fan.

[kannan11]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

as i said before battery upgrade won't help until and unless the charging system is strong enough. Battery is a storage device.

ok fine
can you tell how to upgrade my battery and charging unit . i need a 12V9AH battery similar to p150 which has more power
pls friends help me

[abhayshanu]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I will also be going the LED way, I have already installed a H4 5000k HID on my D200 and the LED will be a spot light to luminate the road when there is complete darkness, it wont always be on.
Here are a few links for the ones which might be on my bike soon :-
27W Watt LED Work Light Lamp Spot Light Waterproof IP67 Camping 4x4 SUV Boat ATV | eBay
7inch 36W CREE LED Work Light Bar 4x4 Offroad Lamp Spot ATV Jeep Save on 27W 72W | eBay

12V 24V 48W 16LED Spot Work Lamp Light Jeep Trailer Offroad Boat Truck 4WD 4x4 | eBay

[rprathin]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

ok fine
can you tell how to upgrade my battery and charging unit . i need a 12V9AH battery similar to p150 which has more power
pls friends help me

i will help but first tell me your ride name