Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[Rakesh Rok]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I think the branded projectors would not be less than 3-4k.. I'm nit sure about it.. Let other rider throw a better light on this..

what i mentioned above are simple bulbs, just like the stock ones, but of higher wattage and illumination.. And yes, these are good..

Bro BTW is swapping the headlight of Unicorn with FZ is not a problem. . ?

Cheers!!!

[Devraj]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

as you are saying.. opening the headlight could completely break the clamps and that would mean you bike would be completely without headlight..
then its better to wait for the new installation.. and try to make that as soon as possible.. you won't want to make your bike useless at night..

as for the hid or projector.. that would mean additional 3-4k in addition to the cost of the FZ setup..
you simple could use a 55/60w bulb.. preferably philips night vision or osram.. those are also very bright and give adequate lighting..

Bro, some detailed info .
1st , HID_in_reflector is always better that projector when it comes to light throw , but oncoming traffic will curse you . In city area you might also face cop problem due to this poke in the eye factor of the "HID_in_reflector" . where projector works very good in city , but in highway it will be not that good as "HID_in_reflector" .

2nd , coil rewinding is the key factor here which will decide what you can use , as you know you can still convert it to DC & feed the light's existing AC power to battery after making it DC via any 20amps diode, It will allow you to run any 35W light let it be either HID or halogen without any battery problem , cost will be only 250/- total .Its tested & tried
where as after coil rewinding you can run three 35W light , provided you use any branded triple coat 18gauge wire, as the unicorn 2006 comes with 12pole, it will easily generate approx 200W of peak power .
so what you can do is fix a projector in headlight - for bling bling factor + city riding & twin fog lamps with 35W HIDs in them for highway ride . Things will be costly for sure but will be worth every penny .

3rd, if you plan to install projector then there is no point in install OEM reflector or such as it will be either painted black , or will be unused as projector wont use any part of the reflector to produce light . Lumax made yamaha Fz reflector comes in 997/- only .

4th, yess branded projector cost a bomb , minimum range starts from 4600/- , it offers grater than 89% efficiency, means the 89% of the light produced by the bulb goes in the road . the more expensive= more efficiency .
now it's upto you what you want to do .

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Bro, some detailed info......................
now it's upto you what you want to do .

thanks mate much needed explanation for me as well as other riders..
[MENTION=59533]Rakesh Rok[/MENTION].... all your queries have been answered.. and as for the fitting.. you should consult a mechanic as i don't have much knowledge of unicorn..

[sandeepcf]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I am using a Honda Unicorn 2006 model, . . The light during night is almost waste, sometimes I feel like I can drive without using them at all. . . I want to upgrade, what are the options and do include the cost also. . . Also I am planning to change the dome of my Unicorn with that of FZ and then install HID or projector, has the present one is too old and also the clamping is gone, if a hot air blower is used, I think it might break the glass into pieces, so presently is there any other alternative as I daily travel at night, so light is necessary and also sometimes, I cannot even see the pedestrians walking on the side of the road. . . So, please help me out guys, should I wait until I modify my headlight with that of FZ and then install the new kit or is there any alternative presently for my old headlight, that is without doing any modification. . . Thanks for your help in advance. . .

Cheers!!!

I am also using Honda Unicorn 2006 model and had faced similar problem with lighting.
What you need to do?? - First increase the current in the bike by rewinding and making it full DC.
Then you can play around with FZ light or HID or Aux lamp or anything you want.
Full DC = Coil rewinding + APE RR, a very simple procedure.

I had made my Uni Full DC and tried

55/60w in reflector -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Noticable improvement to 35/35
HID in reflector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You will get beaten someday.
HID in Projector - BMW BI-Xenon projector(used part from ebay.com) by a friend in US -------- Decent cut-off but not enough light comparatively.
HID in Autopal Mega Spot lamp ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Excellent and very helpful for long rides.
The beam really goes the distance.

At present I settled with Round light of TATA ACE(no need to tell about its beam) with 55/60 philips premium bulb in city + HID spot lamp for long rides.

If you can DIY, Coil rewinding costs 200 for wire + 1300 for Ape RR + 150 for 2 micro relays + 100 for Misc items + a multimeter.

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2nd , coil rewinding is the key factor here which will decide what you can use , as you know you can still convert it to DC & feed the light's existing AC power to battery after making it DC via any 20amps diode, It will allow you to run any 35W light let it be either HID or halogen without any battery problem , cost will be only 250/- total .Its tested & tried

Is it Tested and tried on a Unicorn??????? The current supplied to the headlight in a unicorn has a negative polarity.

where as after coil rewinding you can run three 35W light , provided you use any branded triple coat 18gauge wire, as the unicorn 2006 comes with 12pole, it will easily generate approx 200W of peak power .

8-poles only.

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[Devraj]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

yes the diode setup is tested & tried . are you sure about the 8pole setup ? I worked on a 2010uincorn & it had 12poles . the svc guy told me that all the unicorn have the same coil "it's honda dada, sob same e hoy" . The coil had one ground & power out, the RR Unit did all the work for providing AC to the light & DC to the battery, but as after putting the lights on the battery the AC section will be unused , so keeping a diode on that lets only the +ve half cycle of the AC to flow to the battery .
Here is some picture of the coil I have worked with


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Is it Tested and tried on a Unicorn??????? The current supplied to the headlight in a unicorn has a negative polarity.




I 1st tried it on the very same 2010 unicorn . but I remember there was no -ve polarity in the AC section, it was sine wave . putting a diode after that lets the only +ve half cycle to the output .

[truelypulsarian]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Osram night breaker & phillips extreme vision which one is best among these.

I own 220.

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Osram night breaker & phillips extreme vision which one is best among these.

I own 220.

both are equally good.. lie in the premium category.. so you can expect a good feedback from both of them..
i think its a personal choice and more on availability.. opt for anyone of them

[Rakesh Rok]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I am also using Honda Unicorn 2006 model and had faced similar problem with lighting.
What you need to do?? - First increase the current in the bike by rewinding and making it full DC.
Then you can play around with FZ light or HID or Aux lamp or anything you want.
Full DC = Coil rewinding + APE RR, a very simple procedure.

I had made my Uni Full DC and tried

55/60w in reflector -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Noticable improvement to 35/35 that's good and I think compared to 35W a 55W is far better. . .
HID in reflector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You will get beaten someday. Don't wanna disturb public, so NO.
HID in Projector - BMW BI-Xenon projector(used part from ebay.com) by a friend in US -------- Decent cut-off but not enough light comparatively. Can you just put a pic of it. . ?
HID in Autopal Mega Spot lamp ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Excellent and very helpful for long rides.
The beam really goes the distance. This one's too, it'd be most helpful for me. . .

@Devraj I don't wanna make the bike look too grand by putting too many lights and thanks a lot bro, got it will speak about the coil rewinding and get it done as soon as possible. . . @nadz11.ns yup got my answers from both. . . The first thing I am going to do now is coil winding and after that change it to FZ headlight and put HID in projector, a picture of Hid in projector and Hid in Autopal will be most helpful, thank you guys. . . Will discuss it with my mechanic/wiring person on/before Monday. . .

Cheers!!!

[Devraj]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

@Devraj I don't wanna make the bike look too grand by putting too many lights and thanks a lot bro, got it will speak about the coil rewinding and get it done as soon as possible. . . @nadz11.ns yup got my answers from both. . . The first thing I am going to do now is coil winding and after that change it to FZ headlight and put HID in projector, a picture of Hid in projector and Hid in Autopal will be most helpful, thank you guys. . . Will discuss it with my mechanic/wiring person on/before Monday. . .

Cheers!!!

Good , please do the rewinding with triple coat wire, it's the most durable . & if you can do machine winding then you can manage 56turns per pole even with 18gauge. that is5layer . it will generate good amount of power

[Rakesh Rok]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Good , please do the rewinding with triple coat wire, it's the most durable . & if you can do machine winding then you can manage 56turns per pole even with 18gauge. that is5layer . it will generate good amount of power

Ya sure bro, thank you will speak to them and get back. . .

Cheers!!!

[sandeepcf]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

The 12 pole one is from Unicorn Dazzler.
My Unicorn has got only 8 poles. So does CBZ Xtreme.
About the negative polarity : -
RR Unicorn/CBZ-X.mp4 - YouTube

I've tried diodes & diode setup is not possible in this scenario.

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

some information needed..
if i change the battery (12v-5amp) to a larger capacity battery (12v-7amp).. is it also required to change the wiring..?
heard from a mechanic today that the bikes wiring are suited for that current only and if a larger current passes, they might not be able to sustain it..
is this correct..?

[Devraj]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

some information needed..
if i change the battery (12v-5amp) to a larger capacity battery (12v-7amp).. is it also required to change the wiring..?
heard from a mechanic today that the bikes wiring are suited for that current only and if a larger current passes, they might not be able to sustain it..
is this correct..?

which bike ?? R15-V2 ? no problem at all

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

which bike ?? R15-V2 ? no problem at all

No.. i am talking for FZ16

[rprathin]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

No.. i am talking for FZ16

battery is only a storage device in any bike it wont matter how much higher amps battery you put you can also use 12v 5000amps battery but the problem would be it will be very big to fit.