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  • Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
    1) Lamp shade, why changed? Was it broken? Could you post some pictures of it? I couldnot figure it out?

    2) Nothing can be done other than replacing it, but the sound will come again after sometime. My bike makes 3 types of sounds:

    a) From under the lock @5K.

    b) Dial vibrating..

    c) Rear Brake noise, always there whatever I do it comes back.

    3) Hope for peace now.

    4) My rear brake has created more play from after 11,000kms. It seems like the brake pads will finish their life in another 2-3K kms.
    1. Lamp shade changed because it was making sound khat khat.
    And by lampshade I (& SC) meant big black pipes(left and right) in red box. These pipes contain rubber inside between them and forks. Left pipe was moving a little and was banging on one of the ring above it making sound and shaking headlight.



    2. Another DIY job for me. Firstly I thought feviquick will do the job but then I reckon that I won't be able to rotate the key !!! gotta think of another thing. Anyway one thing can be done to kill those 3 sounds coming from bike yours. Get some sticky oil one drop between black dial and steel will stop its vibrations for some days. Rinse that small bar which moves back and forth in order to lock the handle. Pour some drops between rear alloys and the plate on the right of the alloys (worked for me)
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    • Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
      1. Lamp shade changed because it was making sound khat khat.
      And by lampshade I (& SC) meant big black pipes(left and right) in red box. These pipes contain rubber inside between them and forks. Left pipe was moving a little and was banging on one of the ring above it making sound and shaking headlight.

      2. Another DIY job for me. Firstly I thought feviquick will do the job but then I reckon that I won't be able to rotate the key !!! gotta think of another thing. Anyway one thing can be done to kill those 3 sounds coming from bike yours. Get some sticky oil one drop between black dial and steel will stop its vibrations for some days. Rinse that small bar which moves back and forth in order to lock the handle. Pour some drops between rear alloys and the plate on the right of the alloys (worked for me)
      1) How did you figured out that the cone set was alright and the lampshade was the culprit? And was the whole lampshade replaced or just the rubber inside them? Covered under warranty? If not what is the price?

      2) Thanks. i will try that out.
      Last edited by abhichotu.abhi; 09-29-2010, 04:24 PM.

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      • ^@abhi-thx for the tip,i'll ask the mech if he has got any tools like the one u have mentioned

        and the reason for my absence? it simple,college started,getting very little time to surf xbhp and i lost the enthu to go through all the pages to determine the flow
        My full presence can be felt after one month
        Last edited by ceasar; 09-29-2010, 10:16 PM.
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        • Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
          Hey Welcome first...
          Don't let her go above 50 kph.
          Find that rear brake tightening bolt and rotate it clockwise until you are comfortable with braking. That bolt is located :
          50?! geez.. I've been maintaining 65 as my upper light till now. Anyhoo... 500 kms done. Will take the bike to the SC tomorrow. Few things, though:

          1. The rear brake-shoe was faulty. Got it replaced. Works like a breeze now.

          2. Well, I sort of havent been able to avoid long rides. There've been three occasions when I've ridden the bike for 40kms straight, although under 65 and making sure that I dont keep the throttle nailed at the same position.

          3. I have noticed that the noise the bike makes just goes through the roof along with the temperatures. The worst, obviously, is right after those long rides. But even my office commute is something like 10 kms and it sort of does that after I reach home. I know Pulsars are known for that noise but it considerably increases after a, say, 15 minute right. Is that normal?

          4. I think i'm running lean. I'll tell the SC guys tomorrow about it. The engine really stutters after I leave it cold for sometime. In the morning, I use the choke to solve it. Weirdly, though, even when it was a bit warm, it still did the same thing. I came back from the 40km trip this evening at 7PM and went out to buy some stuff at 9.15pm. Engine still warm but I had to slightly (below 4K) gun the throttle for it to resume normal behaviour. Is that normal for an engine that is still noticeably warm to touch?

          By the way, I'm really curious about the Pulsar noise and the physics behind it. I think we can broadly divide into two components (the sound our ears hear) :

          One is the sound when the engine is cold. The intermittent smooth sound resonating with the exhaust note.

          Second is that high pitched one. Its audible when we rev it and I have heard it most on bikes that have aged. (Its the same one that my engine makes when its hot)

          Just curious as to what they are and why the second one happens - the racket is just unnerving for an obsessive compulsive bike owner at times.

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          • Oh and yeah, glad to be here. Made the decision to buy the P180 after going through xBHP for many hours and have read almost all of the pages in this thread. Well, almost

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            • I am facing a weird issue in my bike. A month before i ran over a spead breaker at a higher speed and my front tyre ran over a steel bar tip .. which was blunt. But since then i have been facing issues with my bike. I feel even in plain good roads, i can feel the jerk.. And during small pot holes also i feel like riding a horse. and most important of all i am facing heavy back pain for the past 3 weeks. I took the bike to a local mechanic(just for checking) and after riding the bike he said its quite ok. I also took my bike to bajaj service center and a person took a test drive of my bike and certified it normal. But i get back pain only after i ride the bike.I also checked the air pressure and kept it @ various combos like 28-30;28-32 etc. But nothing worked out @@@@!!!

              What should i do next. I am pretty sure that the problem is with the bike... Any help !

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              • ^perhaps you should check the suspension [soft or hard?]

                what is your bike's age? how many km's have u clocked?
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                • Clocked 3000 KMS
                  Bike age : 3 Months


                  I even changed the suspension mode. But still no difference.

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                  • Ok, so I got it serviced today at 512kms.

                    And the bike rides worse.

                    * Some new vibration between 3-4K rpm
                    * 5th gear, 4000 rpm: Speed 53-54k/hr instead of the previous 56
                    * Right after when I started the bike at the svc, it stalled. When i twisted the accelerator, it stalled. Adjusted the rev screw at that time to make it something like 1100rpm in idle. A while later, when the engine was hot, the idle went up to 1300rpm.
                    * Still gets pretty damn hot. And that noise I wrote about previously. Is that normal? even after 520kms and an oil change?

                    BTW, the oil they put in was the Bajaj 10,000 DTS-i.

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                    • Originally posted by VD17 View Post
                      Ok, so I got it serviced today at 512kms.

                      And the bike rides worse.

                      * Some new vibration between 3-4K rpm
                      * 5th gear, 4000 rpm: Speed 53-54k/hr instead of the previous 56
                      * Right after when I started the bike at the svc, it stalled. When i twisted the accelerator, it stalled. Adjusted the rev screw at that time to make it something like 1100rpm in idle. A while later, when the engine was hot, the idle went up to 1300rpm.
                      * Still gets pretty damn hot. And that noise I wrote about previously. Is that normal? even after 520kms and an oil change?

                      BTW, the oil they put in was the Bajaj 10,000 DTS-i.
                      1*-IGNORE it,it's normal
                      2*-NORMAL
                      3*Normal
                      4*-probably due to the engine oil,wait for a couple of km for the bike to settle in.
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                      • Originally posted by karthikus View Post
                        Clocked 3000 KMS
                        Bike age : 3 Months


                        I even changed the suspension mode. But still no difference.
                        ummhmm,perhaps it is your mind that makes you think that there is some prob with the bike itself,don't pay EXTREME attention towards the bike,otherwise you're bound to notice changes everyday and that will make you restless,if someone made a scratch on your visor ignore it unless its eye sore,but if you change that visor coz of the lil scratch,then everyday after the rough-n-tough use a new scratch will appear in front of you.

                        as far your back pain is concerned,perhaps your bike is taking too much pothole hits than it used to be before it ran on the speedsbraker.

                        if you're completely sure to rule out the above two reasons,then you can go ahead to look into the problem further,
                        check out the front suspension:coneset,lampshade,perhaps lOckhrt or abhi could as they're facing the issues with that.
                        Last edited by ceasar; 09-30-2010, 10:42 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                          1) How did you figured out that the cone set was alright and the lampshade was the culprit? And was the whole lampshade replaced or just the rubber inside them? Covered under warranty? If not what is the price?

                          2) Thanks. i will try that out.
                          1. Lampshade became faulty and was moving in its place which was visible to eyes.
                          Actually a lot has happened since the servicing. Your speculations were right!!


                          Firstly I asked SC guy (supervisor) to replace the lampshade which he didn't do instead he told me that by-mistake he replaced the cone set and charged 150 for that. I had no idea why on earth he changed cone set. I brought bike home. headlight wasn't making any sound nor was shaking and I was happy. I thought this was the end. But next day when I took the bike out for my regular commute I started getting feeling all is not well. On potholes I felt that something is abnormal with the handle. Although handle wasn't making any big sound, I could felt that the handle is dashing on something inside. Eventually this dashing turned into thudding and was able to feel while applying front disk brakes.
                          Before servicing I had shaking headlight and rigid handlebar.
                          After serving I got rigid headlight and shaking(not visible to eyes) handle.
                          Yesterday I went to SC again...told them that something is not right cone set. He opened the handle and found that mechanic had put a rubber ring above left lampshade at the serving which resulted in tight lampshade and jumping handlebar. Well I also learned that coneset wasn't replaced at all.
                          At servicing that fuking mechanic(?) only put one rubber ring above lampshade.
                          SC charged for replacement of cone set which in reality they didn't change at all. They played a con game with me.
                          Yesterday that mechanic admitted that he didn't replace cone set. So he undid the rubber ring job which gave me rigid handlebar with old shaking headlight/ lampshade. Every other mechanic also tried their own expertise. They requested me to leave the bike as they could replace lampshade.
                          Today they called me to tell that they are out of lampshades and I would have to wait for one more day to get the job done.
                          I don't understand how they could run out of spares as they are probably the biggest SC in the Pune and Pulsar's factory is only 7-8 km away.

                          I'm worried sick about my bike. They already have opened cone set numerous times and also the tank is full. If they don't do it tomorrow either I will complain about it or will shoot that guy myself.
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                          • @lockhrt:

                            This is the everyday story of SC's across all over India. I have requested for the change of cone-set 3 times during 'normal services' but each time they had a reason and guess what, yes, you're right, "Saar, cone-set is out of stock, Please come tomorrow we will arrange and fit it in your bike" Such is the stupidity and carelessness of these guys. I was like WTF? is going on; in my last service, a few days ago. I was red hot but since I had some predecided commitments, I left them untouched. And please donot shoot that guy, it is normal to them to tell the words 'Out of Stock', while for you and all of customers it is irritating.

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                            • Ok, so does the bike become somewhat sluggish after an oil change/service etc? Esp the first one? Apart from my previous observations, today I found the bike to be less responsive than prior to the service. As i said, I did rip it to 80 once, today as well.. bogged by the sluggishness in 5th gear, i tried to accelerate and 80 came with a lot more work than it did earlier.

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                              • ^nopes,it doesn't,in fact it should become more reponsive,smooth etc.These SC guyz sometimes don't even change the oil,keep an eye on them while they change the oil
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