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**SatSon** · 03-29-2012, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

and can u tell me how the gs is better than the new cbz-x/hunk saw in alot of forums and though it is underpowered than them the plus point is 6th gear and apart from that in what ways it beats these two

The 6th gear gives GS an edge in fuel economy on high way cruising, apart from that the 6th gear doesn't add any benefit I believe.

**SatSon** · 03-29-2012, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post

I havent rode gs150r so cant compare these two. May be its engine is more advanced than our 10-15 yrs old Honda engine

Our engine which is the modified version of the one on Unicorn is not that old!!!
Unicorn's engine is taken from Honda CRF150F's latest version which was designed in 2006.

**abhisheklalnediya** · 03-30-2012, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

The 6th gear gives GS an edge in fuel economy on high way cruising, apart from that the 6th gear doesn't add any benefit I believe.

Every time when i reach 4krpm on 5th gear of my cbz, i feeels like i have one more gear to shift. so i wish hero could add one more gear to cbz.

Originally posted by w4rrior View Post

sorry for OT: at youtube you can find pulsar 150's touching 130 also. But that's not the true speed. It's either modified or has a huge amount of speedo error. Actual speed is measured with a help of gps or speedgun. And pulsar bikes are prone to huge transmission loss. Pulsar 180 generates only about 13hp at rear wheel. So what do you expect from pulsar150? When dyno'd you know the actual power of the bike.
Edit: and pulsar engine stresses a lot at higher speed. So, if you ask me hero cbz/hunk is much better than pulsar (no offence to anybody).

then how much bhp does cbz/hunk generate at rear wheel?

**Kalli12** · 03-30-2012, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by w4rrior View Post

sorry for OT: at youtube you can find pulsar 150's touching 130 also. But that's not the true speed. It's either modified or has a huge amount of speedo error. Actual speed is measured with a help of gps or speedgun. And pulsar bikes are prone to huge transmission loss. Pulsar 180 generates only about 13hp at rear wheel. So what do you expect from pulsar150? When dyno'd you know the actual power of the bike.
Edit: and pulsar engine stresses a lot at higher speed. So, if you ask me hero cbz/hunk is much better than pulsar (no offence to anybody).

So the one showing on our cbz digi speedo isn't accurate either?

EDIT: i rode an old pulsar yesterday the one with just a sticker on it and has digi speedo....and i was like :O!! no good pick up and no good ride feel at all only the brake bite was good(the bike was 3 yrs old and 45k on odo) and i was like I just love my cbz !!!

So how u guys after almost an year with new cbz/hunk how do u guys feel about it?

**itssaurabh.negi** · 03-30-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by sibun View Post

No a sixth gear cannot help in anyway as for a sixth gear to perform better there should be sufficient torque at high revs to pull a bike. In fact the sixth only serves to lower the engine rpm rather than increasing the top speed.

The fact is that on xbhp i have seen that hero bikes are most underrated and cbz/hunk is one of the most underrated 150 cc bikes.It is for this reason that i do not feel to even post my extreme ownership review even after 6 months of ownership.
The truth is that all bikes are good in there own way but the way they criticize hero bikes on the forum it feels as if it is a sin to be a member if you own hero bikes. And i own almost seven hero bikes in my family.

Dont know why its so but if u own or like a Hero bike u r supposed to be old minded. HMC bikes are supposed to be behind the current market requirements/competitions. I disagree with it though and i m happy owner of my HMC xtreme.

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

yeah i guess so bro

and i have been recently comparing the bikes in 150cc except r15 and can anyone tell me which of these bikes have more top speed and what makes it have more top speed(without adding any mods i.e the stock bikes) (curios and alot of tp :P )

rtr 160,xtreme,hunk,p150, fz,fazer,gs 150

i saw videos on youtube of xtreme going only till 110 where as fz/fazer to 125! and gs to 116(both these bikes having again less bhp) this is just making me laughing my ass off!

Its not that which has got highest top speed, the thing is hows its stability/control at such speeds. Aerodyn. ,tyre,fairing all can alter the behavior of a bike.

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

Our engine which is the modified version of the one on Unicorn is not that old!!!
Unicorn's engine is taken from Honda CRF150F's latest version which was designed in 2006.

Still i feel k engine/silencer weight could have been reduced a bit to make it little light 5-6 Kg atleast if not more.

Originally posted by abhisheklalnediya View Post

Every time when i reach 4krpm on 5th gear of my cbz, i feeels like i have one more gear to shift. so i wish hero could add one more gear to cbz.

Try upshifting at higher RPM 4-5 K and u would not be complaining it again

then how much bhp does cbz/hunk generate at rear wheel?

**w4rrior** · 03-30-2012, 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=abhisheklalnediya;then how much bhp does cbz/hunk generate at rear wheel?[/QUOTE]

i have no idea. I don't own cbz/hunk.

**itssaurabh.negi** · 03-30-2012, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by w4rrior View Post

i have no idea. I don't own cbz/hunk.

Awesome Profile pic bro

**w4rrior** · 03-30-2012, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

So the one showing on our cbz digi speedo isn't accurate either?

no bike in india has absolutely correct speedo. There will be minor errors
EDIT: i rode an old pulsar yesterday the one with just a sticker on it and has digi speedo....and i was like :O!! no good pick up and no good ride feel at all only the brake bite was good(the bike was 3 yrs old and 45k on odo) and i was like I just love my cbz !!!
bang on!! That's what i'm talking about! If you really wanna know the difference between honda engine and bajaj engine. Ride a 2-3 year old bike back to back. Bajaj engine feels powerless and aged. Whereas honda's is still good as new.

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Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post

Awesome Profile pic bro

thanks man

**SatSon** · 03-30-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post

Still i feel k engine/silencer weight could have been reduced a bit to make it little light 5-6 Kg atleast if not more.

Yes, I've also felt te same about the silecer and mentioned here about that before. Its really huuugeee, and definitely can be reworked to reduce weight.

Other changes Hero can think to reduce weight are:
Converting to o-ring chanin and removing the chain guard box.
Moving to mono shock, than those two heavy shock at rear, which will improve ride quality/stability as well.
Even more light-weight alloy wheels.

And even light weight saree guards?

**itssaurabh.negi** · 03-30-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

Yes, I've also felt te same about the silecer and mentioned here about that before. Its really huuugeee, and definitely can be reworked to reduce weight.

Other changes Hero can think to reduce weight are:
Converting to o-ring chanin and removing the chain guard box.
Moving to mono shock, than those two heavy shock at rear, which will improve ride quality/stability as well.
Even more light-weight alloy wheels.
But the thing is who will tell them these or when they will try to adopt such changes. I wish we were designer or even in a support team so that we could change the thngs as required by a common rider. I wish they have an online suggestion page where we can put our ideas/suggestions for the upcoming models as well.

And even light weight saree guards?

Ha Ha, dont be so mean

**cbz_edge** · 03-31-2012, 12:41 AM

are u people sure that the swing arm in cbz has bush ..not bearings
my problem (related to swing arm and grs) has been solved lately....however the mechanic told me that he greased the bearings inside but u guys told me that it has bush

**christo** · 03-31-2012, 01:29 AM

not to hurt anyone

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

i saw videos on youtube of xtreme going only till 110 where as fz/fazer to 125! and gs to 116(both these bikes having again less bhp) this is just making me laughing my ass off!

less bhp? how much less exactly?
anyway top speed depends on so many factors. most importantly the engine and the power spread but also total weight, tyre pressure, oil level, aerodynamics etc..
i own fazer and i touched 115kph(on speedo), still there were some juice left. most important thing isn't top speed, its the confidence that the bike gives the rider to push her to its maximum.
I have driven xtreme and hunk but i felt the brakes of fazer better, its bybre(brembo) made. also the monoshock and the fat tyres will give you a lot of confidence on corners.

one thing i love in the cbz xtreme is its LED tail lights..awesome

**sayank10** · 03-31-2012, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

Yes, I've also felt te same about the silecer and mentioned here about that before. Its really huuugeee, and definitely can be reworked to reduce weight.
?

the huge silencer of cbz is eye catching although not helping in mass centralization.
the main problem with hero is thier bikes have little more than necessary kerb weight resulting in slight inferior performance.

ps kg pwr
Apache RTR 160 Fi 15.90 136 117

Apache RTR 160 15.40 136 113

Pulsar 135LS 13.50 122 111

discover 150 13.00 121 107

Pulsar 150 15.06 143 105

fZ-16 14.00 135 104

CBDazzler 14.18 138 103

Fazer 14.00 141 99

Hunk 14.40 146 98

Achiever 13.59 138 98

CBZ xtreme 14.40 149 97
these are the power to weight ratio of some 150 cc.see where extreme looses out.

**itssaurabh.negi** · 03-31-2012, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

the huge silencer of cbz is eye catching although not helping in mass centralization.
the main problem with hero is thier bikes have little more than necessary kerb weight resulting in slight inferior performance.

ps kg pwr
Apache RTR 160 Fi 15.90 136 117

Apache RTR 160 15.40 136 113

Pulsar 135LS 13.50 122 111

discover 150 13.00 121 107

Pulsar 150 15.06 143 105

fZ-16 14.00 135 104

CBDazzler 14.18 138 103

Fazer 14.00 141 99

Hunk 14.40 146 98

Achiever 13.59 138 98

CBZ xtreme 14.40 149 97
these are the power to weight ratio of some 150 cc.see where extreme looses out.

Poor We . even disco 150/p135 is BETTER than ours ..

**BloggingWheels** · 03-31-2012, 12:25 PM

Guys I do not know whether you have observed this or not but there is a sudden increase in the number of Hero Motocorp Motorcycles on the road. At least, this is true for East India. Bengal, Bihar, Jharkhand, Odisha, i.e.
Pulsars and Yammies are still out there but the average commuter seems to be choosing HH over others!!
I see a lot many Xtremes now as compared to earlier when Pulsars were the in-thing!
220 sales also seems to have dipped. Might not be because of the performance but the 'oversold' factor!?

HH Passion sales (all versions) has increased surely along with the extreme. (Though, the Hunk still remains elusive :P the most underrated bike).
However in the premium segment, bajaj and yamaha seems to be at the top.

This observation is something to cheer about I guess?

P.S. All this observation is not based on market numbers but what I observe on road on a daily basis. Numbers might still give a close competition to HH?

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