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**itssaurabh.negi** · 03-28-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

I find this really odd recently i have been searching the what bike section of xbhp and many other forums (Got bored :P) Well in the 150cc cateogries many suggested the TS the GS 150 and FZ series(Both being less powered than the cbz-x and fz being less comfy than cbz/hunk) there were very few where they suggested and opted for a hero 150cc bike and even in that many suggessted the hunk its like as if does anyone know that this bike exists?

or the new model a big disaster?

And what makes the FZ so popular other than it looks?

Ride urself and see the difference. Hero bikes are supposed to be outdated/under technology and made for old minded guys. Its a general conception.

Originally posted by cbz_edge View Post

no replies.everyone has got so busy

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Ur query ??? post it again

**SatSon** · 03-28-2012, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

I think Cbz-X/Hunk has a bush instead of bearing at the swing-arm pivot point ?

Thanks for the info.
I never had a chance to see it, so was not sure if its bearing/bush.

**SatSon** · 03-28-2012, 12:44 PM

Guys,
Now there is some serious problem.
After I ride some 5kms and rev to 60km/h there is blue/grey smoke coming continuously from my exhaust.
Then I stop the bike and simply accelerate in neutral, and yes, the smoke persisits.
But it doesn't exist when I start the bike in the mornings and accelerate.

Worn out piston rings / valve seals the cause?

I guess my decision to go for a used Hunk was bad, though I got it for a reasonably good price, with 20k on the odo

Your observations / suggestions guys...?

**Kalli12** · 03-28-2012, 10:08 PM

I just rode an FZ once but that too for a short time like 2-3 lanes and yes found its pick up to be more than my x-treme but what puzzles is it got less bhp than x-treme

**BloggingWheels** · 03-28-2012, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

I guess my decision to go for a used Hunk was bad, though I got it for a reasonably good price, with 20k on the odo

Used 150cc bikes can be found cheap enough, but the main problem is that they are 'used' after all!

Any ways, not to worry much about. Since how long have you been facing this problem? And yes, unburnt fuel might be the problem. That takes us to the engine. Take it to a SVC and get a thorough check-up done for your machine.

**SatSon** · 03-29-2012, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

I just rode an FZ once but that too for a short time like 2-3 lanes and yes found its pick up to be more than my x-treme but what puzzles is it got less bhp than x-treme

I've ridden my friend's FZ and I too felt the pick-up to be bit higher than my Hunk. But when we give a sudden throttle in 2/3 gear, I felt my Hunk to be picking up smoothly with a cooooool engine sound, while for FZ I felt to be tad stressed engine feel.

FZ's top speed is also less, around 104km/h while for Hunk/XTreme it is around 110km/h

**SatSon** · 03-29-2012, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post

Used 150cc bikes can be found cheap enough, but the main problem is that they are 'used' after all!

Any ways, not to worry much about. Since how long have you been facing this problem? And yes, unburnt fuel might be the problem. That takes us to the engine. Take it to a SVC and get a thorough check-up done for your machine.

"They are used' afterall"
I like that

I've read/heard that rich mixture might be causing smoke, but that usually would be in black color...

And yes, need to take to multiple service centres and arrive at a conclusion

**christo** · 03-29-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

I've ridden my friend's FZ and I too felt the pick-up to be bit higher than my Hunk. But when we give a sudden throttle in 2/3 gear, I felt my Hunk to be picking up smoothly with a cooooool engine sound, while for FZ I felt to be tad stressed engine feel.

FZ's top speed is also less, around 104km/h while for Hunk/XTreme it is around 110km/h

fz/fazer's top speed(actual) is around 110-115 not 104.

**christo** · 03-29-2012, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

I find this really odd recently i have been searching the what bike section of xbhp and many other forums (Got bored :P) Well in the 150cc cateogries many suggested the TS the GS 150 and FZ series(Both being less powered than the cbz-x and fz being less comfy than cbz/hunk) there were very few where they suggested and opted for a hero 150cc bike and even in that many suggessted the hunk its like as if does anyone know that this bike exists?

or the new model a big disaster?

And what makes the FZ so popular other than it looks?

first the name 'Hunk' sucks

fz is less powered than the cbz xtreme? how?? cbz xtreme = 14.2 Bhp @ 8500rpm/12.8 Nm @ 6500 rpm. fz = 14 Bhp @ 7500 rpm/14 Nm @ 6000 rpm. see the torque figure of two

why people choose fz over hunk;
looks A LOT better
very good cornering ability(monoshock)
better brakes(front)
better torque(the pickup part) etc

edit: fz almost weights 15kg less than cbz.
no bikes aren't bad, its just some are better.

**abhisheklalnediya** · 03-29-2012, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by christo View Post

first the name 'Hunk' sucks

fz is less powered than the cbz xtreme? how?? cbz xtreme = 14.2 Bhp @ 8500rpm/12.8 Nm @ 6500 rpm. fz = 14 Bhp @ 7500 rpm/14 Nm @ 6000 rpm. see the torque figure of two

why people choose fz over hunk;
looks A LOT better
very good cornering ability(monoshock)
better brakes(front)
better torque(the pickup part) etc

edit: fz almost weights 15kg less than cbz.
no bikes aren't bad, its just some are better.

Torque and power? what is it actually, heard several definition.

after riding cbz, fazer,fz feels like a kids bicycle,(not in term of power,torque ... but on size,weight and seating.)

where to get xbhp stickers?

**BloggingWheels** · 03-29-2012, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

I've read/heard that rich mixture might be causing smoke, but that usually would be in black color...

And yes, need to take to multiple service centres and arrive at a conclusion

Going by what you wrote about the emission problem, it seems more than just running the bike on a rich mixture. What are your mileage figures? Dipped/Increased from when you bought it?

**SatSon** · 03-29-2012, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Guys owning the new Hunk without Kicker. How do you push start the bike???
Normally I push start any bike in 2nd or 3rd gear, but today was informed by a friend that its better to pushstart in 1st gear. So wanted your opinions on the same.

AFAIK push starting in 1st gear is difficult and not recommended, as the engine will not rotate freely as in 2/3 gear.
Always push start in 2/3 gear.

**itssaurabh.negi** · 03-29-2012, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by abhisheklalnediya View Post

Torque and power? what is it actually, heard several definition.
Horsepower is what you read about, torque is what you feel.
condition 1 : LOW BHP,High Torque : Better initial Pickup but sluggish as compared to HIGH BHP engine.

condition 1 : High BHP,Lower Torque :=>Comparatively Less effective in low RPM range, but good for high RPM's.Better Top Speed

So for a normal riding nature, u should prefer a ride with HIGH Torque at lower possible RPM's (4-6K).

But that shouldnt make u worried. We are good with our rides as well.
after riding cbz, fazer,fz feels like a kids bicycle,(not in term of power,torque ... but on size,weight and seating.)
Both these bikes are different altogether. Weight/Height/Looks/Pickup.

where to get xbhp stickers?
Get it printed in local shop,would hardly cost 50-70 bucks.

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

I just rode an FZ once but that too for a short time like 2-3 lanes and yes found its pick up to be more than my x-treme but what puzzles is it got less bhp than x-treme

So many factors to affect pickup only. Every bike is different .

**itssaurabh.negi** · 03-29-2012, 01:12 PM

has anyone tried/managed to push start new kickless extreme ?? if yes tell me the procedure

**SatSon** · 03-29-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by christo View Post

first the name 'Hunk' sucks

fz is less powered than the cbz xtreme? how?? cbz xtreme = 14.2 Bhp @ 8500rpm/12.8 Nm @ 6500 rpm. fz = 14 Bhp @ 7500 rpm/14 Nm @ 6000 rpm. see the torque figure of two

why people choose fz over hunk;
looks A LOT better
very good cornering ability(monoshock)
better brakes(front)
better torque(the pickup part) etc

edit: fz almost weights 15kg less than cbz.
no bikes aren't bad, its just some are better.

Originally posted by christo View Post

fz/fazer's top speed(actual) is around 110-115 not 104.

FZ's wiki page quotes top speed as 112.34km/h.
But the below link which reports the result in their shoot-out says it to be just 104 kmph
150cc shootout - Six Pack!
Anyways we are not riding the bikes in their topspeed always, and we are not bike-racers.

Though we feel the pick-up of FZ to be better, Hunk outplays the FZ in 0-60 acceleration, though by mere 0.4 seconds as per below link.
The 150 CC Battle: Pulsar Vs Hunk Vs Apache Vs Dazzler Vs GS 150 Vs FZ 16 | 3HP

So the better pick-up is just a feeling than a fact?

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