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  • Originally posted by sibun View Post
    First open the bore and check if it requires change. If the bore is worn then buy a new bore kit from hero honda and change it. If bore is not worn and only the rings have more gap then buy 0.25 rings and just grind it. I have told to google it. This is the most common practice. Also i do not know that USHA makes bore kit for extreme. It makes for splendor/joy, boxer/caliber e.t.c. today i will ask my retailer friend regarding it and post.
    However pistons and usha can be easily available. But you must buy original USHA and fakes are everywhere. Check the condition of bore and if rings will do the work then just buy usha rings. Else if you know a good boring guy then go for 0.25 piston and rings and bore the engine. Both of you can do the work by doing together, this will help both of you. Since satson is in chennai and if he knows a good workshop then both of you go there and do the work as it will benefit both.
    Yes,satson you are right riding this way will cause the con-rod to develop play and thus will require complete over haul of engine.
    Why USHA piston and rings?
    First of all they Were OE suppliers when hero supplied japan parts.
    second their pistons are made in honda foundry, japan and rings are from RIKEN corporation,japan.
    third the piston have 11% silicon and are semi forged so they do not expand on heating thus can run tighter clearance.

    How can you know original piston:-

    Usha pistons come in Plastic packing and have to be broken to take out the piston.


    The OE pistons have holograms.

    To give you an idea about quality the left piston is of USHA and right is MAHLE. These are pictures of my joy piston.
    Regarding availability you can easily get in chennai as if they have distributor in cuttack, then they must be having a distributor in chennai.
    Here is the address for USHA dealers:-
    Jai Motors Limited
    Anna Salai, Chennai, Tamil Nadu
    044 2852 2462 ‎

    Here is there website. You can call there customer care:-
    USHA Sewing Machine, Ceiling Fans, Home Kitchen Appliances, Kitchen Hobs - Usha International Ltd
    Even they manufacture valves.
    But first determine what needs to be changed. Will ring change suffice or boring or new bore is required.
    Thanks for all the research and help Sibun...

    Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
    hey i didnt take note that you are from namma chennai - where you going to get it fixed ? you going for the usha piston+rings combo as well ?.
    Yes Sarban, Chennai is my work place, basically from Kerala.
    Haven't spotted a good mechanic yet, but will keep you posted as I find some one.

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    • Guys,
      I rode my friend's FZ(2010 model) for around 20 kms. Few things I noted(when compared to Hunk) are -
      - the bike can pull from even 20kmph in 4th gear and can pull from 0kmph in 3rd gear (should be due to better torque than Hunk)!
      - the bike reached 80kmph with no effort if accelerated gently
      - if accelerated suddenly the bikes smoothness goes and the engine feels harsh
      - the wide handlebar gives much confidence when flipping through traffic and the handle felt to be very light
      - Good front brake and okay rear brake

      May be its OT, but just thought of putting it here...

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      • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
        You stated you dont have blower - so you can take the filter out every 1K and just tap in on some hard surface and use your mouth .
        I wanted to know whether or not i can use it... Do we have to change airfilter after 10-12K ??
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        • I had my sprockets inspected by a service guy at HMC service. No exchange under warranty required. I realized that I was unnecessarily getting all finicky about the 'rusting' bit. It is absolutely normal, they assured me. In fact, they opened the chain cover of a new extreme and I saw light rusting on the rear sprocket and on the drive shaft (connected to the front sprocket). Lubricated my chain and I was off again!


          Edit:
          Btw checked my RPM :: Speed Numbers. here it is:

          4250 RPM :: ~50 KM/HR
          5000 RPM :: 60 KM/HR
          6000 RPM :: 80 KM/HR

          For the above 3 RPMs, these are the speeds that I get irrespective of the fact whether I shift at 4.5k RPM or 6.5k RPM (max torque band). Unavailability of smooth and long roads do not let me utilize the 6.5k RPM shifts so I generally do it at 4.5k RPM and upwards.
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          • I had posted regarding issue with my front disc after brake fluid change at ASC (before 2 months), the problem got worse that I had to depress the lever fully for enough brake. I was advised by our FM's to clean the piston, cylider etc. Yesterday I opened the master cylinder and found that there is only a small layer of fluid left and I could see the hole to the piston if lever is pressed :O. The master cylinder was too dirty as well.

            Went to a new mechanic (thought of giving a try, my friend told he's experienced) and asked him to clean cylinder, piston, caliper piston etc. I just left my bike there and went to the mechanic after 4-5 hours and he had all fixed. The braking is good now, but got bit shocked to see the bill,
            fluid - 60
            piston - 336
            oring - 128
            master cylider rubber gasket - 148
            labor charge - 200

            TOTAL 882 !

            He gave his own garage's bill, so Im not that convinced.
            Are these prices right for genuine spares?

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            • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
              hey i didnt take note that you are from namma chennai - where you going to get it fixed ? you going for the usha piston+rings combo as well ?.
              Hey Sarban,

              I asked the mechanic mentioned in the above post reg my bike's smoking issue. After hearing the engine sound, he told there should be even prob with crank/conn. rod !
              He told can't be confirmed before opening the engine, but he's almost sure on this. He says re-boring, fixing crank/conn road/bearing, new piston/ rings will cost around 5k


              @ Sibun,
              does good job for the above item cost this much ?

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              • Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                Went to a new mechanic (thought of giving a try, my friend told he's experienced) and asked him to clean cylinder, piston, caliper piston etc. I just left my bike there and went to the mechanic after 4-5 hours and he had all fixed. The braking is good now, but got bit shocked to see the bill,
                fluid - 60
                piston - 336
                oring - 128
                master cylider rubber gasket - 148
                labor charge - 200

                TOTAL 882 !

                He gave his own garage's bill, so Im not that convinced.
                Are these prices right for genuine spares?
                in 70 Rs u get whole bottle of genuine DOT3 Brake fluid so price is OK. My brake lever was broken due to a fall,whole master cylinder assembly was changed and it costed a whooping 17-1800 rs.i was shocked to see the bill,it was genuine though.
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                • Originally posted by SatSon View Post

                  Went to a new mechanic (thought of giving a try, my friend told he's experienced) and asked him to clean cylinder, piston, caliper piston etc. I just left my bike there and went to the mechanic after 4-5 hours and he had all fixed. The braking is good now, but got bit shocked to see the bill,
                  fluid - 60
                  piston - 336
                  oring - 128
                  master cylider rubber gasket - 148
                  labor charge - 200

                  TOTAL 882 !

                  He gave his own garage's bill, so Im not that convinced.
                  Are these prices right for genuine spares?
                  I think you got robbed but not sure .

                  One more thing never ever leave your bike out of sight even for a min. - if you had no choice but have to leave the bike unattended them a authorized SC is far better bet than some unknown roadside mechanic .
                  Last edited by sarbanoxley; 08-06-2012, 01:34 AM.
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                  • Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                    Hey Sarban,

                    I asked the mechanic mentioned in the above post reg my bike's smoking issue. After hearing the engine sound, he told there should be even prob with crank/conn. rod !
                    He told can't be confirmed before opening the engine, but he's almost sure on this. He says re-boring, fixing crank/conn road/bearing, new piston/ rings will cost around 5k

                    @ Sibun,
                    does good job for the above item cost this much ?
                    bro this is what happened to me in real life when i went to this superbike super duper mechanic mentioned in the mechanics thread right here on Xbhp :

                    Before i went to this super duper superbike mechanic in chennai - my bike wont go above 60Km/hr and it was even struggling to go even to 60 - so a local mechanic told me the clutch is gone and it needs to change - so believing him i shelled out like 1K to change the clutch plate - even after that it refused to go above 60 - dejected i looked for some reliable mechanic in chennai on XBHP and found this superbike guy - many were praising how good he was - trusting the reviews i took the bike all the way to chennai and he took a test ride and immediately he told me bore problem - has to dismantle the bore and see no other choice - he told me to leave the bike and come back after 3 days - but i never leave my bike - better it die with me than survive without me .

                    so took it back saying i was busy and all - took the bike straight to vellore as i have some work in that town - on the entrance itself there is this huge HH SC on the main road - showed the bike to the head mech in that SC - he took a even shorter test ride than the superbike guy and even before he got off the bike he said carb problem and told me to wait for 2 hrs as he was attending a major problem on some other bike - after waiting he took just 30 mins to clean the carb and voila the bike went staight to 110KM/hr - i was like .

                    I thanked myself for not leaving the bike with that superbike guy and saved myself a huge bill and mental agony .

                    also my bike had earlier made my life hell with its tappet problem - spent nearly 3K on petrol and stuff just to get it right but even the castrol bike zone guys couldnt even solve this small problem - and it was this same head mech in vellore who finally solved it .

                    I am going to take my bike to that head mech after 11th of this month -already talked to him - and told him i want to watch it all when he works on my bike so i can also learn a thing or two he agreed .

                    If USHA rings are available from the distributor will get one on 11th of this month - the dealer told me to call tomorrow tomorrow - if after opening the bore the head mech says the piston too needs to be changed i will come all the way to chennai to get the USHA piston .
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                    • Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
                      in 70 Rs u get whole bottle of genuine DOT3 Brake fluid so price is OK. My brake lever was broken due to a fall,whole master cylinder assembly was changed and it costed a whooping 17-1800 rs.i was shocked to see the bill,it was genuine though.
                      they charged me Rs 900 after my front disks blew off on the highway - narrowly escaped getting killed but rammed into this poor guy who was walking on the road and his hand and leg got injured bad .
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                      • Originally posted by sibun View Post
                        First open the bore and check if it requires change. If the bore is worn then buy a new bore kit from hero honda and change it. If bore is not worn and only the rings have more gap then buy 0.25 rings and just grind it. I have told to google it. This is the most common practice. Also i do not know that USHA makes bore kit for extreme. It makes for splendor/joy, boxer/caliber e.t.c. today i will ask my retailer friend regarding it and post.
                        However pistons and usha can be easily available. But you must buy original USHA and fakes are everywhere. Check the condition of bore and if rings will do the work then just buy usha rings. Else if you know a good boring guy then go for 0.25 piston and rings and bore the engine. Both of you can do the work by doing together, this will help both of you. Since satson is in chennai and if he knows a good workshop then both of you go there and do the work as it will benefit both.
                        Yes,satson you are right riding this way will cause the con-rod to develop play and thus will require complete over haul of engine.
                        Why USHA piston and rings?
                        First of all they Were OE suppliers when hero supplied japan parts.
                        second their pistons are made in honda foundry, japan and rings are from RIKEN corporation,japan.
                        third the piston have 11% silicon and are semi forged so they do not expand on heating thus can run tighter clearance.

                        How can you know original piston:-

                        Usha pistons come in Plastic packing and have to be broken to take out the piston.


                        The OE pistons have holograms.

                        To give you an idea about quality the left piston is of USHA and right is MAHLE. These are pictures of my joy piston.
                        Regarding availability you can easily get in chennai as if they have distributor in cuttack, then they must be having a distributor in chennai.
                        Here is the address for USHA dealers:-
                        Jai Motors Limited
                        Anna Salai, Chennai, Tamil Nadu
                        044 2852 2462 ‎

                        Here is there website. You can call there customer care:-
                        USHA Sewing Machine, Ceiling Fans, Home Kitchen Appliances, Kitchen Hobs - Usha International Ltd
                        Even they manufacture valves.
                        But first determine what needs to be changed. Will ring change suffice or boring or new bore is required.
                        amazing so clear and even you took time to upload those images - now i am sure i wont get ripped off when i go to the market .Called the dealer he told me to call tomorrow as he is attending some function - hope USHA makes the kit fro Xtreme .
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                        • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                          I think you got robbed but not sure .

                          One more thing never ever leave your bike out of sight even for a min.- if you had no choice but have to leave the bike unattended them a authorized SC is far better bet than some unknown roadside mechanic .
                          Agreed,atleast they dont charge for unnecessarily items/services.

                          Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                          they charged me Rs 900 after my front disks blew off on the highway - narrowly escaped getting killed but rammed into this poor guy who was walking on the road and his hand and leg got injured bad .
                          So sad,which parts were damaged ?? mine Brake lever (70 Rs) and master cylinder was replaced.
                          Last edited by itssaurabh.negi; 08-06-2012, 10:10 AM.
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                          • @SatSon & @Sibun,

                            Took to Castrol Bike Zone and changed the engine oil. The HH engine oil was pitch black when drained. Filled in Gulf Pride 4T Plus 900 ML + 100 ML. The mechanic told we need to fill 1ltr hence filled 1 ltr.

                            But, when I checked the manual its mentioned as 900 ML only. So, i have filled 100ML in excess. Should I remove this excess or is it OK to leave like that?
                            The engine has been smooth now for few kms.

                            Still need to fix the cone set vertical play this week.

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                            • Originally posted by blackstallion76 View Post
                              @SatSon & @Sibun,

                              Took to Castrol Bike Zone and changed the engine oil. The HH engine oil was pitch black when drained. Filled in Gulf Pride 4T Plus 900 ML + 100 ML. The mechanic told we need to fill 1ltr hence filled 1 ltr.

                              But, when I checked the manual its mentioned as 900 ML only. So, i have filled 100ML in excess. Should I remove this excess or is it OK to leave like that?
                              The engine has been smooth now for few kms.

                              Still need to fix the cone set vertical play this week.
                              More than 1L of oil is needed only if you open up the engine crank case and drain the oil, You have drained it using the engine oil drain bolt right?
                              So what your mechanic've done is wrong. Its not good to keep more oil, as it will cause issues like immediate clogging of air filter with oil and other issues.
                              Check the oil level using the dipstick as mentioned in the service manual and drain if excess oil is there.

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                              • Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
                                in 70 Rs u get whole bottle of genuine DOT3 Brake fluid so price is OK. My brake lever was broken due to a fall,whole master cylinder assembly was changed and it costed a whooping 17-1800 rs.i was shocked to see the bill,it was genuine though.
                                Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                                they charged me Rs 900 after my front disks blew off on the highway - narrowly escaped getting killed but rammed into this poor guy who was walking on the road and his hand and leg got injured bad .
                                So this concludes that touching the disc brake parts are bit costly, can't blame my mechanic then...

                                The Hero parts are getting costly day by day, but lesser compared to Honda and all...

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