Re: brakes and oil queries

As said by Shoeb I also think the same SVC try to loot the customers by not selling these part individually, so that customer have to buy complete part...

There is a one shop near to me who sells the original part of all bikes, let me check from there and will let you know if got these parts are available there....

WhatsApp Group?

I've a suggestion that can give all of us real time help rather than having to wait for members to respond here. Sometimes it so happens that you need a solution urgently, you post here but don't get a reply in time.

Why not have a WhatsApp group that comprises of some of the active members of this thread? The names that show up in this thread are quite common anyway. Maybe we can all exchange phone numbers via PMs and then create a group on WhatsApp. If anyone has a problem, we can all discuss it in realtime. I'm sure all of us would be interested in finding out a solution to anyone's problem.

Only thing is, this shouldn't replace the activity on the thread itself. Maybe someone can update this thread weekly with the chat history so that everyone can benefit.

The only problem is, [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] isn't on WhatsApp from what I can see. Sibun, if you can please make it to WhatsApp, it'll be of great help to all of us.

What do you guys say?

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Thats a great idea , i am in !! . But yes as you said we need to keep thread alive .

Re: WhatsApp Group?

Its a great idea, but its gonna definitely decrease our activity here.....please join me as well if you making a group on whatsapp, I will PM you my number.

One thing I want to tell you, that instead of making a group we can do one thing that, install the Xbhp mobile application on your mobile and it alerts as like whatsapp whenever some one message you or you can make a setting when to alert or when not, I am using it from last few weeks, this way we can connected whenever we want as like whatsapp.

Re: WhatsApp Group?

Perhaps after a member posts a problem, one of us can report back here with the question and solution once it's found?

Well, I have a Symbian phone. So I doubt xBhp have an app for pre-historic OSes. :P But then, think about it. That would mean you would have to run another app in the background. Why eat up more RAM when you can perform the same functionality using WhatsApp. Besides, WhatsApp allows sharing of photos as well, which are sometimes necessary for proper diagnosis of problems.

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I know that pain bro , i too use a symbian phone . I am PM ing you my number . Lets get this group started . What do you suggest ? Also is this discussion OT ? Dont want mods to get irritated due to this.

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Man, good to see you after so many days. Why do not you come up regularly. By the way how is your bike running after my mechanic tuned it and serviced it. Please share your experience with my mechanic here. Also how is your sis pleasure running after showing it to my mechanic, please update here as i think you are not satisfied with my mechanic.

Man, not only i am encouraging but in actuality urging you to do all by yourself.And yes now i remember that you had call me once.
For your bike i would like to tell you that please add IFTEX SYSTEM G with petrol, previously i was using IFTEX SYSTEM 2-3 but SYSTEM G is better. I will give you a review when i write about my bikes servicing by me. I am recommending this because it has been tested in:-
BMW Intake Valve Deposit Control Test
Ford Intake Valve & Combustion Chamber Deposit Control Test
Chrysler Port Fuel Injector Cleanliness Test
Honda Generator Test
GM Intake Valve, Combustion Chamber & ORI Test
Bybre are better than old model brakes. Also your brakes were defective from begining that's why you were not feeling confident, my brake is more than perfect and locks on slight more pressure. Change the master cylinder kit and if OE is not available then go to a reputed spare shop and get KBX repair kit, will do the work. Karizma is nissin, and the piston is bigger, so will pump more fluid with each press and brake will bite harder. But no need of all that just get a major kit and if you get a minor kit(caliper kit) and completely overhaul the brakes, use spirit to clean the sludge in brake lines as those will not be cleaned by petrol.
If you do not get it then PM me on friday and i will courier it from here and the cost of major kit is within Rs.250 and no need to change complete cylinder for it.

I read your post on TEAM BHP and something is not right as in my extreme with stock sprocket bike hits 65 at 5k rpm, 78 at 6k rpm, 91 at 7k, 104 at 8k and 117 at 9k rpm, either your speedo pinion is showing error or your clutch is showing signs of wear. With 15T sprocket it was 70 at 5k, 85 at 6k, 100 at 7k, 115 at 8k and beyond that i have not gone.
So get that checked.
And regarding big bore kit then you have actually made me want to go for it as i was in two minds before some days, and your post has made it clear. Already extreme revs like crazy and more so after 6k rpm, with big bore, high lift cam and head works man it will go ballistic. 17.xx bhp i am sure will screw many higher cc bikes. Actually i am thinking about it, will you help me in getting all this as i am planning to mod my extreme, already in stock i have hit 117 with stock sprockets and bike was pulling still, big bore will do wonders. So if you will help me in getting it i will let you know.
In night i dream of riding my extreme with big bore.
Regarding DIY in service my post on my own servicing will clear all the doubts wait for it as i am writing in notepad and will copy paste it here.

Maximum load is a misnomer as bike is capable of carrying more weight than mentioned.
Gear shift will become smooth as with age. Achiever is same weight as unicorn and has longer wheelbase than unicorn.
Headlight is as bright as new model extreme.
No his is previous model as that time extreme has not been launched.

Since it is mentioned in parts manual that means it is sold as separate unit, write to hero regional office and they will ensure you get it or else look at outside spares shop some might stock it, here my friend almost stock all HERO spares even the minutest nut and bolt to OE, so i get it, sure SVC will be having it, try a little more.
If OE is not available then get KBX major kit will be available in big spares shop, They are OE suppliers also. But it is available, give a call to HERO regional office and tell you will get spares, these ASC are dacoits as they want to sell the complete master cylinder as it doesn't sell as master kit is more than enough for restoring it. So they have a new trick of selling the master cylinder by this method. Rest assure all are available separately as my friend have it.

By the way what is whatapp as i have no idea about it, i have some idea about bikes but about this no idea.

Re: WhatsApp Group?

Let's wait for a few more entrants to come in. Like shoeb and SatSon. I haven't got your PM yet. :P

Will this be available in a normal spare parts store? Also, what does it do?

EDIT: Available at Petrol Bunks, Spares Shops, Tata ASC and Ford ASC. Got the benefits here:

• Cleans Fuel Injectors and carburetors of dirt, gum and varnish deposits without taking them apart.
• Cleans intake manifolds and intake valves and restores proper compression.
• Eliminates rough idling, hesitation, stalling, hard starting, lean surging and poor throttle response caused by deposits in the fuel system.
• Restores engine performance and lost engine power.
• Increases fuel efficiency by keeping the fuel system, including the combustion chambers clean.

I guess I'll try changing Major and Minor kit first, then consider the Karizma master cylinder. But will the master cylinder of the ZMA be a direct fit on our bikes? There is a Hero parts stockist here in Bangalore, I'm sure he'll have it in stock.

To be honest, I don't remember the speeds I do in what RPM, I used someone else's post as reference and posted there. Will check tomorrow morning and report back. Speedo looks fine as while riding side-by-side, my bike and a friend's bike both showed the same speed.

At 5k RPM, the difference is 3kmph. Can this be attributed to a clogged carb, dirty air filter and a loose chain? :P Also, can you tell us what tools we'll need to tighten the chain and how to do it?


Sure! To be honest, Joel ships the kit himself. I got it fit by him because he's based in Bangalore too. Just mail him and I'm sure he'll get back to you. If you need any help, feel free to let me know, I'll be glad to help.

One thing though, the cams are still not ready. He might bring in a Racing CDI with a higher rev limit and the cam in a few months. For now, the big bore and the head work is available for the Hunk, Xtreme and Unicorn.

Waiting in eagerness.

WhatsApp is a cross platform messenger. Uses an internet pack to deliver messages. I remember you saying you used to reply back here from your phone prior to the xBhp upgrade. If you have a Blackberry, Symbian, Android, Windows or an Apple phone, you can get WhatsApp. Check this link:
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Re: WhatsApp Group?

Update on my bike's rear disc brake problem:
I got it checked from a local mechanic and found that fluid is leaking from the caliper end. Then I realized that the fluid level is also decreasing after every week, and when fluid is not refilled on time then there is loss of pressure in the brake system. Mechanic told me that master cylinder is fine as the leak is from rear caliper end.
Please suggest what might be the actual problem

Re: WhatsApp Group?

That means the pressure is leaking from the caliper, i told you know somewhere it is leaking, get the minor kit for the rear caliper it will contain one piston and two oil seals. Usually most brake problems are caused by faulty major or minor kit.
Remember major kit is refereed to master cylinder overhaul kit and minor is referred to caliper overhaul kit.Rear brake caliper contains one piston and front caliper two pistons.

So you need to get the following parts:-
2 06451-MA7-405- SEAL SET, PISTON- 1
3 43107-MA7-006- PISTON- 1

Re: WhatsApp Group?

[MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION]: bro u have a PM in ur inbox!

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From where exactly is it leaking ? From the banjo bolt that joins the pipe to caliper or from the piston seal itself ?
Post a few pictures.

Fluid level decreasing suddenly then it is a sure indication of leakage. Fluid level drops in the master cylinder to compensate for the pad wear. Once new pads are installed,fluid level rises back.
@ashwin
It is not possible for me to use Whatsapp or any other app for that matter because I have a basic phone. However, I entered my details in this spreadsheet.

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Thanks a lot Sibun and Shoeb for your prompt revert.
I'll search the mentioned parts and report back with images. Meanwhile, I had changed the rear disk pads just a month ago to ASK, but still fluid level is decreasing.

Re: WhatsApp Group?

In your case - Fluid level is decreasing because there is a leak.

Rear disc of xtreme and Hunk have a classic issue of screeching/squealing when the pads just start to touch the disc (makes no noise when the pads are in full contact).
Has this noise decreased by the usage of ASK(asbestos type) pads ?

When I removed from front brake pads to clean it, I noticed that it was made by ANL for Bybre.

TIP- I Use a mild detergent dissolved in water along with scotch brite to clean the disc and pads. Sand paper should never be used to de-glaze the pads as sand particles can embed in the pad material and damage the disc.

Grease filled by the factory in the caliper pins is non-silicone type and I will use silicone grease next time.

Re: WhatsApp Group?

Hey, thanks ! I don't have sufficient data speeds to check xBhp regularly due to high graphical pages. Yeah, after he ( your mechanic ) tuned it ( still wish if he could do more ), my bike felt stress free at 60-70 kmph, but still it couldn't go above 8.5K RPM or 105 kmph with 15T Unicorn sprocket. After 1 month, i changed to old sprocket and it felt quick in City but 50-60 seemed strained till 5k rpm , i mean engine is over revving but bike doesn't perform upto mark. I checked my bike high speeds and at 9k RPM it does only 108-109 kmph. Is there something wrong with engine / speedometer or with myself ? I can't seem to figure it out.

I recently took my bike for 6th free service and insisted them to clean Air , Oil, Rotor and screen filter as well as adjust timing chain sounds ( sound of loosened chain from engine which they diagnosed as rocker arms ), put new 10W 30 oil, cleaned engine head ( not sure if that's what its called ) and some minor fixes. Still the bike doesn't deliver as compared to other bikes from same stable. My bike gives fuel efficiency between 43 - 47 kmpl.

If i visit bbsr again, if you got time , take my bike to highway and redline it and tell me what's wrong with it ? Does it perform at par with your Xtreme or below par ? If you could help me find the problem itself, i'll be grateful since I'm not able to find what's wrong with it.