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**lalitp** · 04-03-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Agni.Cool View Post

I have tried to follow the manual as much as possible... Average speed has been 40-50 and occasional 55-60 while overtaking... have tried to maintain the RPM under 4.5k almost all the times...

I have a couple of questions.

1. Is it required to turn off the fuel knob during overnight parkingg??

2. Which is the best petrol bunk?? have been going to HP now as i remember reading somewhere that HP was better than others...

1. I dont switch of the fuel knob.
2. Normal petrol from any petrol bunk would be find since it has compression ratio of 9.5:1, but make sure it is from reliable bunk. I dont know any COCO petrol bunk in Pune, except the one BP one near Pune RTO office. (I am not sure if it is COCO)

**bbsrailfan** · 04-03-2013, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Agni.Cool View Post

I stay near Hinjewadi in Pune... Could not find any SHELL till now... have a couple of HP and BP bunks here... But how do we find out if it is a COCO or not..

Apparently, there is a shell bunk at Hinjewadi:
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**Agni.Cool** · 04-03-2013, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Apparently, there is a shell bunk at Hinjewadi:
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Thank u very much bbsrailfan .... Will fill it from SHELL here onwards.... Sorry for OT but are u from bangalore??

**bbsrailfan** · 04-03-2013, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Agni.Cool View Post

Thank u very much bbsrailfan .... Will fill it from SHELL here onwards.... Sorry for OT but are u from bangalore??

@Agni: Yes, I am working at Bangalore, but belong to Orissa.

**Agni.Cool** · 04-03-2013, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by lalitp View Post

1. I dont switch of the fuel knob.
2. Normal petrol from any petrol bunk would be find since it has compression ratio of 9.5:1, but make sure it is from reliable bunk. I dont know any COCO petrol bunk in Pune, except the one BP one near Pune RTO office. (I am not sure if it is COCO)

Thanks for that lalit... I am turning off the fuel knob from the past 2 days.. I used to do that in my old samurai as it would not start if I kept the fuel knob open..

Sometimes I do have problem during starting even with the choke ON... It takes 3-4 attempts to do so and will get switched off once i turn off the choke... The RPM with chokle is around 1500 and drops down to 1000 once its turned off... is it normal or on a higher side??

**Naveen1985** · 04-04-2013, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Agni.Cool View Post

Thanks for that lalit... I am turning off the fuel knob from the past 2 days.. I used to do that in my old samurai as it would not start if I kept the fuel knob open..

Sometimes I do have problem during starting even with the choke ON... It takes 3-4 attempts to do so and will get switched off once i turn off the choke... The RPM with chokle is around 1500 and drops down to 1000 once its turned off... is it normal or on a higher side??

rpm ranging from 1200-1500 is normal at idle.....by the way my sz-r starts with very first crank even in morning, as far as my knowlede goes both fz and sz starts very smoothly. Infact my friends fz starts starts with in a metre of space when his self starter ditched him 2-3 times and this was shocking to me...I was like how can he start his bike by draging it slightly after sitting on riding postion and that too on flat surface...

**lalitp** · 04-04-2013, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Agni.Cool View Post

Thanks for that lalit... I am turning off the fuel knob from the past 2 days.. I used to do that in my old samurai as it would not start if I kept the fuel knob open..

Sometimes I do have problem during starting even with the choke ON... It takes 3-4 attempts to do so and will get switched off once i turn off the choke... The RPM with chokle is around 1500 and drops down to 1000 once its turned off... is it normal or on a higher side??

I think what you are observing with it is normal i think. Choke works as a catalyst here to give more fuel. Even my bike stuggles to start with choke on lol. As soon as I switch of choke and crank it starts with no problem.

Do you face problem even after having choke closed? or Is it just happens what you use choke?

**bbsrailfan** · 04-04-2013, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Agni.Cool View Post

Sometimes I do have problem during starting even with the choke ON... It takes 3-4 attempts to do so and will get switched off once i turn off the choke... The RPM with chokle is around 1500 and drops down to 1000 once its turned off... is it normal or on a higher side??

Do you always start the bike with the choke on? If yes, then do avoid it. The SZ/R ignition is extremely good and I very rarely needed the choke even in winters at 5-10 degrees. That said, do clean your spark plugs and check your battery. Sometimes a poorly-charged battery messes with the ignition.

**Agni.Cool** · 04-04-2013, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

rpm ranging from 1200-1500 is normal at idle.....by the way my sz-r starts with very first crank even in morning, as far as my knowlede goes both fz and sz starts very smoothly. Infact my friends fz starts starts with in a metre of space when his self starter ditched him 2-3 times and this was shocking to me...I was like how can he start his bike by draging it slightly after sitting on riding postion and that too on flat surface...

Im actually a bit confused here... The manual states that always use the choke during starting.. Then keep it half and then turn it off... But what I have noticed in the morning is that the bike starts in the first attempt without the choke... But with the choke on it takes 2-3 attempts.. SHould i stick to manual or just ditch the choke???

Originally posted by lalitp View Post

I think what you are observing with it is normal i think. Choke works as a catalyst here to give more fuel. Even my bike stuggles to start with choke on lol. As soon as I switch of choke and crank it starts with no problem.

Do you face problem even after having choke closed? or Is it just happens what you use choke?

It just happens with the choke... WIthout choke it starts as smooth as butter.... But the choke here rather the aiding the start of the bike it seems to hinder it... lol

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Do you always start the bike with the choke on? If yes, then do avoid it. The SZ/R ignition is extremely good and I very rarely needed the choke even in winters at 5-10 degrees. That said, do clean your spark plugs and check your battery. Sometimes a poorly-charged battery messes with the ignition.

I used to use choke during starting atleat after overnight parking... Thanks fir that.. Ill not use the choke here on...

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

@Agni: Yes, I am working at Bangalore, but belong to Orissa.

Coool... I was working in bangalore till last month.. On deputation in Pune for few months and have bought the bike here.... I hope there will be no problem while getting the bike transferred there...

**bbsrailfan** · 04-04-2013, 02:11 PM

Dear Agni,

Please avoid back-to-back consecutive posts - you may end up getting banned by moderators! Use the multiquote to reply to multiple posts!

Originally posted by Agni.Cool

It just happens with the choke... WIthout choke it starts as smooth as butter.... But the choke here rather the aiding the start of the bike it seems to hinder it... lol

Originally posted by Agni.Cool

I used to use choke during starting atleat after overnight parking... Thanks fir that.. Ill not use the choke here on...

Using the choke is recommended in cold temperatures because of two scientific reasons:

When a bike is parked in the cold overnight, the petrol in your tank becomes less volatile, and hence, vaporizes less compared to petrol at normal temperature.
When the air-fuel mix enters the cold combustion chamber, some amount of fuel vapour which gets injected into the chamber condenses on the walls.

These 2 factors lead to starting problems in cold climates. A choke enrichens the air-fuel ratio during cold climates, so that a higher percentage of fuel enters the chamber for optimum combustion and quick starting. However, we mostly do not need a choke to start the engine as the prevalent temperatures in most parts of India are sufficient to vaporise the petrol and ensure a smooth start.

Using a choke under such circumstances, sometimes results in the air-fuel mix becoming too rich for optimal startup. Also, using a choke for prolonged periods results in too much of petrol inside the chamber which can wash away the lubricating film of engine oil, resulting in greater friction and damage to the piston head.

Originally posted by Agni.Cool

Coool... I was working in bangalore till last month.. On deputation in Pune for few months and have bought the bike here.... I hope there will be no problem while getting the bike transferred there...

Ideally there shouldn't be an issues, you can get a NOC from the local authorities.

**Agni.Cool** · 04-04-2013, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Dear Agni,

Please avoid back-to-back consecutive posts - you may end up getting banned by moderators! Use the multiquote to reply to multiple posts!

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Thanks for the advice.. was unable to find the multiquote option... I got it now.. Will use that here on...

And thank u for the detailed info about the Use of Choke.. I'll go with not using the choke option then....

Do u leave the engine switched on for a while to get the engine warm and then take off in the morning or do u just ride as soon as u start the engine?? I read in another thread that leaving it for few seconds might improve FE..

**bbsrailfan** · 04-04-2013, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by Agni.Cool View Post

Do u leave the engine switched on for a while to get the engine warm and then take off in the morning or do u just ride as soon as u start the engine?? I read in another thread that leaving it for few seconds might improve FE..

It doesn't improve the FE - but it does help in improving the life of your engine and this is something I religiously follow everytime on my bike. The reasons is:
After the engine is left overnight, the engine oil and the protective oil film on the cylinder walls drains into the reservoir and the engine is left without any protective lubricating film.
Moreover, depending on the grade of oil, the oil becomes thicker once it is cold. This thicker oil is difficult to circulate though the engine.

So, when you start your bike and immediately rev to high speeds, the lubricating oil doesn't reach all the crevices of the engine, and the friction which ensues during those few minutes can slowly, but gradually wear out the engine parts. When you idle the engine for a minute or two, you do two things:
1. Allow the engine oil to circulate throughout the engine before the engine takes any stress.
2. Allow the engine oil to reach the correct temperature (and hence, correct viscosity) for optimum operation.

**Naveen1985** · 04-05-2013, 02:03 AM

just completed 1000 today...will be going for 1st service tomorrow. any one out there feels some kinda vibration at 5800rpm from engine only..?? actually its not vibration exactly, you can say a sudden change in character, sound and harmony between engine parts. I dont feel any kinda vibration on handle bar or foot pegs but it feel like all parts inside the engine have started fighting suddenly, i mean at that time i can feel the working of parts inside engine. i think its just a rough edge as its a new engine....and first service will iron it up....will post a review of 1000kms soon...

**lalitp** · 04-05-2013, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

just completed 1000 today...will be going for 1st service tomorrow. any one out there feels some kinda vibration at 5800rpm from engine only..?? actually its not vibration exactly, you can say a sudden change in character, sound and harmony between engine parts. I dont feel any kinda vibration on handle bar or foot pegs but it feel like all parts inside the engine have started fighting suddenly, i mean at that time i can feel the working of parts inside engine. i think its just a rough edge as its a new engine....and first service will iron it up....will post a review of 1000kms soon...

That would be wonderful! After first service the bike should be even better. Please stick to Yamalube 20W40 mineral oil only.

Waiting for your review, also if possible just give it a try to check the mileage and also post it here.

Cheers!

- Lalit

**Naveen1985** · 04-05-2013, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by lalitp View Post

That would be wonderful! After first service the bike should be even better. Please stick to Yamalube 20W40 mineral oil only.

Waiting for your review, also if possible just give it a try to check the mileage and also post it here.

Cheers!

- Lalit

yeahhhh....you are right dude, its running very smoothly now. that rough edge near 6000rpm is not that prominent now i.e. 40-50% only .
I am getting consistent mileage of 42-43 kmpl under mix riding conditions (50% highway and 50% city) which according me is good as my daily route (punjabi bagh to Connaught place) is full of traffic signals and slow moving traffic, also I would like to inform you that I am a traffic cutter kinda of rider and that is why sometimes i use to rip it a bit in 3rd and 4th gear....

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