the XBHP s the site made for educating bikers & this is the site you are looking for. I dont know any specific site but may be this can help you The Art Of Safe Riding - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
it is a very good deal. By the way are you from mumbai??
revv means rpm.


PS:-Please avoid double & triple posts as the moderators would not be happy to see this.

Yes I am from Mumbai. I will keep in mind about the double posts.

feeling sorry for you bro...i bought my gladi in 2008 for 49,315....

bro i know that...i went to bangalore this year and was surprised to know the price difference....i even asked the reason to the yamaha guy but he just said its the tax....
the road n the other things a quite similar (personally i felt delhi is better, no offense)...can u tell me why is the tax difference this much....???

Haha!!! I don't understand why the prices were hiked suddenly... I mean only 6 months after i purchased the bike... It became around 54,000 on road... Then was increased to 56,000 on road... And now 58,000!!!

yamaha has waited all these years to prove that its produces the best bike and now when its is being proved even in India then why won't it give a hike in the price...
people are ready to buy yamaha these day even if its a bit costlier the only reason being the perfect combination of performance n styling....

HI all,

First of all thanks for your good information .

But I ve'nt decided yet.



Any how I have two more months to decide!




Thanks & Regards,
Chetz

Yeah Agree, Yamaha is proving it's abilioties nowadays, backedup mainly by FZ and the r15 only..

But Honda has come out silently out with their Dazzler, claiming a whopping 60kmpl mileage with the same 14bhp from its tuned 150 ccmill plus a rear disc and digi console... etc /// This means that, marketing the FZ with its macho looks and fat rear tyre will not help as it can never match it to the dazzler's economy numbers and if it comes to performance, the dazzler is already there to give a stiff competiton..

The dazzler is a edge ahead of FZ and Yamaha needs to address these challenges with the same aggressive attitude to keep pace... I guess the FZ8 will live up to its expectation which yama india will release this year...

The reason i said i don't understand it is that Gladiator's still don't sell as much as its 125cc counterparts from other companies... As sriram mentioned Yamaha is mainly profiting now from FZ and R15... So increasing gladiators price in that way doesn make sense...

In my opinion... FZ, FZ-S has been an outright looks package... They surely need to tweak the engine a bit... A little more power and better efficiency would be welcome on the FZ... Also better quality parts are needed...

FZ8/ Fazer8 won't be in the price bracket of most of us. I guess it'll add to some confusion for those who are planning to buy the Bandit... I expect it to be in that price range if it comes...

I was hoping that Gladiator would not get another graphics change after seeing ads of graphics changes done to FZ series... I was hoping that the Yamaha SZ would come, would be something fresh to look at But i guess Yamaha don't plan to make to many changes as of now...

Prashanth: In my opinion... FZ, FZ-S has been an outright looks package... They surely need to tweak the engine a bit... A little more power and better efficiency would be welcome on the FZ... Also better quality parts are needed...

Well said, I am not sure if yamaha will do a engine mod for FZ in near future .. Way back in 2008 they were quite eager to gain some market share in indian motorcycle segment and that's the reason they came with two models that focussed on power, looks and performance.. I believe the blue prints of those mills (R15, FZ) would have been designed in Yamaha japan Of course focusing on the above said aspects ...also it s a fact that they don't have much reputation for manufacturing economy units like the splendors...(This is my personal opinion, correct me if i am wrong and am here to stand corrected), the same was with yamaha rx100 when compared to a suzuki max100, where the former being much popular due to its engine reliability and build....

Prashanth: I was hoping that Gladiator would not get another graphics change after seeing ads of graphics changes done to FZ series... I was hoping that the Yamaha SZ would come, would be something fresh to look at But i guess Yamaha don't plan to make to many changes as of now...

@: As you see the product lineup of yamaha india since a decade, the engine change frequencies are lesser compared to other companies. In Yamaha once a product was out it stayed there for sometime, like you see an YBX or a Fazer... The Gladi was an upgrade way back in 2006, i guess from then on it is staying right there... moreover i personally feel we can be happy with 2 valve engines like ours with simpler setup's which is proven and built to last... i feel adding 4 valves, 3 valves to smaller cc engines may prove to be powerful, torquey and give better performance numbers in paper to attract prospective customers, but we may not be sure about their longevity and the engine reliability in the long run (mentioned about the BABY PULSAR 135 and the tvs flame)... Here I am not comparing a yzf-r125 or a r15 here.. they come under a different league... Whatz ur opinion ??
Friends:-
To be frank when i paid full cash for my gladi i was pretty sure what i wanted, being a yamaha customer since 1999 and I never did a peer level comparision at all though i had ample options that time..Right now i am happy with my decision .. Competition for models will never end and attractive price labels for even 150cc segment has started to come...If you keep comparing from the papers you can never arrive at a decision, If you still check the reviews and international presence of this model it has always been only positive,

Sri ram... I didn't quite understand the first part about the FZ... Please clear that out...

N about the gladiator n changes to that. I was hoping that Yamaha SZ concept that had been shown during the auto expo would come as it was a change in design... Many people were speculating that it would have the same engine as the gladi... Anyways, in my opinion, 3 valves and 4 valves engines on 125cc-135cc bikes is welcome.. About them being reliable or not depends solely on the R&D done by the company,quality of parts used, how much cost cutting they don't do. 4 valve engines will be good as they are more efficient... Giving better power and also can give good fuel efficiency... Actually if you ask people associated with automobile engineering etc they will tel you that the 3 valve engine on the TVS flame is actually a brilliant engine technically.. I don no what has gone wrong there that they haven been able to rectify many problems... Anyways as of now, I don expect too many manufacturers to start providing such engines in many bikes in the near future.

But what i would expect rather than such cosmetic mods ( here i mean the graphics on the bike or paint jobs etc) is maybe a bike running on DC, tubeless tyres etc which would be then a good change.

P.S: nice video... But surely this guys speedometer has a super huge error... Unless his bike is modified it wont hit such speeds.

1. i was explaining how the FZ came in.. i was trying to say that Yama guys were desperate in 2008 to inject a model in indian market competing the other players by releasing a type that made heads turn in terms or looks n performance.. they put economy in the back seat and conc on the key aspects,Yam, am sure never thought abt economy aspect for a FZ as the competition was only for looks n power.. now the market is volatile n to keep up to expectation we see dazzlers with equal power and promising economy...

2. Moreover yamaha are not really pioneers in making economy units like a herohonda splendors or a passion or a CD100 ... dats why i said compare a rx100 with a suzuki max100 both with similar engine capacities still the max100 could outperform in perliter average easily everytime where the rx100 was struggling to give only a measly figure...


3. Releasing a engine with multiple valves three and four for air cooled engines in smaller cc's units (By Indian companies for demanding market conditions and which is pretty new ) is something i feel personally is still in r&d and will take time to tune those units though not sure how long and i was not comfortable.. i may be wrong but i feel comfy to settle down with proven units like these ..

4. i have heard brand new tvs flame owners abusing the performance and handling of the vechile to the core when enquired during petrol station encounters...On outright terms enquiring gladi graffitti owners during road encounters, the feedback a guy gave wass "Done 30,000 plus and still running strong for 4 years" i was happy to hear it man..

Yamaha india is just opening up and does not expose all their tech advances immediately.. so we need to accept it.. if you are brand loyal as me then you ll accept that a proven 2 valve 125 cc unit is a better deal compared to a more advanced counterpart available today which ofcourse according to me is still in r&d stage ...

If you want unbiased, non technical layman reviews on new bikes hit some review websites and check out their comments from flame and baby pulsar owners, like mouth....com etc

Anyways, its nice to have a nice discussion... Don't take offense to anything, mate please... I sometimes i am not able to put across my views and opinions properly... N I just want to add that I respect everybody's opinion here... Mine may differ sometimes

I would totally agree that 4 valve engines in 125cc or 135cc bikes are still at a R&D stage. Bajaj has taken a risk by launching the new pulsar with a 4 valve engine. If it proves to be a success baja will have an upper hand over the rest of the brands but if it ends up with dissapponting reliability or some problems like that then other brands will have a chance to rectify bajaj's errors and then after research then launch their own 125 or 135 cc 4 valve engine. As long as I know, from the reviews I have read, the responce to the new pulsar is somewhat mixed. But we still can not comment on the reliability. According to me the bigger brands like honda and yamaha are playing safe and the will wait for the responce. Personally I had the option of the Pulsar 135 but it's a bit costly and I'm not yet sure about it's reliabilty, so I'm gonna go for the gladdy.

Smart move "Horror", You have had experience riding Yamaha motorbikes before ? Why did you pinpoint this model as your choice, anything specific thing that attracted you ? Am just curios to know if your answers match mine.. just awaiting ?

Prashanth@: Of course i too appreciate Bajaj and TVS to come out with new technological innovations by way of flames and 4 valve pulsars, i also appreciate bajaj for their two patents, good luck for them... But Bajaj and TVS bikes, not my cup of tea

Hope Yamaha india realises and shares some of its technology available worldwide to keep us happy...
2. With regard to the video i posted, it was somewhere in europe or southamerica and looks like it had a free flow air filter... and of course all analogue speedo's have this error problem.. may he he should have touched 120 plus minimum minus the error .. which according to me is GREAT, i would say... and ybr's abroad come with better quality parts and are built with different figures, not sure

@sriram- This is going to be my first bike. I live with my parents and we have a car but I needed a bike to travel to college so my dad's agreed. Well the reason I choose Gladiator was firstly because I felt it was the best looking bike in the 125 cc segment. I also came to know that it has a lot of power and can reach speeds of 80-90 kmph without much effort, which impressed me ( it's a 125 cc bike after all). I know that it doesen't give great millage but then which bike will if not kept or maintained properly? I also test drived it and felt it to be really comfortable too.