You don't have to do anything, take it to SVC and tell them to check the AIS Box whether all the connections are set correctly/not broken/leaking. thats all. I am not sure if they find it faulty is it replaceable under warranty. If the SVC says no, first shoot a mail before making any kind of payment. If Yamaha says no then i guess you will have to shell out the cost for the same. Although i am pretty much certain that it should be covered under warranty.

Cheers,

Thanks Shv for the swift response, will check for it to happen again, and will be doing the trip to SVC.

Cheers
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krishna

Start topping up the oil with regular Motul 20w50 oil.. I think it wont be advisable to go beyond 4000 km(max 5000 km) with this oil.
As far as life of synthetic oil is concerned.. a true FS oil like Motul 300v can go a lifelong without losing lubrication, but the additive package that comprise of dispersants and antioxidants keeps depleting. Also, the carbon holding capacity of the oil is limited by its volume.
For your 1000 km ride.. keep a good oil for top ups during the ride. No need to fill up a new oil until you complete 4 to 5k kms.
Oil filter contains some oil.. not exactly 200 ml as the manual states. Keep a w40 oil at home and regularly top up the oil. Its always better to keep the oil level at the max mark always to avoid any surprises.

Just curious, you seem to be against oil mixing in the engine oil thread , and you are advising him to top up with any oil of a certain grade, which is not even the grade of the oil he is using right now.
Not looking for a argument, just wondering why your stating two extremely opposite things in two different threads.

Cheers mate
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Krishna

Sometimes it does happen that maybe another person with a similar bike might be having different experiences with the same oil- I guess it also depends on one's way or riding and the way the bike is maintained.it is also true that i had frequent highway ride of 1700 km+ at the time of usage of 300 v,with speed maintained between 80-90 kmph[which is quite high by 135 standard],this probably explains the lowered level of engine oil.

edit: just checked my data sheet ,i drained 300 v at 3497 km of usage,still it is low by 300 v drain interval standard.

Isnt the 300v supposed to be the top line form the motul range, and used for racing bikes also, so they must be able to withstand high temperature operation. Though prolonged useage in higher revs can cause decrease in level, but can drastic decrease be possible ? perhaps the head gasket is leaking ? Have you checked that ?

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Krishna

Thank God, you didnt mention my post yesterday #15656 which said Motul asks to follow manufacturer recommendation. i.e 3000 km for our bike!
And I am asking to take 4000-5000 km from this oil!!
The color of the oil which gn.times is using is light brown, and the oil is just touching the minimum mark. I cant tell him to drain the oil that is 1000 Rs. a liter and a mere top up with 30-50 ml will do the job for him.

here is what I said on the engine oil thread post #5741
A lot has been said already about oil mixing.. let me again put forward my opinion.
Oils should not be mixed. If you are running low on oil or require top up you can mix oils.. but that should atleast be of the same grade like w40 etc.

That is what I asked gn.times to do - Top up with Motul XXw50!!

After a long resting period of one month(for my FAZER) I will be riding it day after tomorrow.
You seem to everywhere on x-bhp

I saw my name on the thread so posting here. For what its worth, I have used Motul 300v 15w50 on my bike for a total exceeding 30k km. Even stretched it for over 8k km once. Thats the only time I had issues (but I feel the reason for the issue was more due to the dirty air-filter). Have done 7.2k / 7.3k km on 2 other separate occasions without any loss of oil. I never go by the interval or anything. Just wait till the gears become hard, then change. People who know me also know the speeds at which I normally ride (most people here wouldn't know me).

@gn.times: Check if your air-filter is dirty. If its not, are you getting white smoke when you rev hard? Because 300v just doesn't *vanish* in like ~3k km for no reason. On a Pulsar 220, 5k km old 300v works better than brand new mineral oil.

Thanks for clearing that out mate

@Anant : Totally agree with you. Motul 300V should perform execptionally well in high revs or prolonged speed runs, this kinda level change is not normal.

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krishna

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Its ALIVE Its ALIIIVE!!!

Hi,
I guess i can finally boast about keeping my ride in top notch condition. If folks may recollect that i had posted sometime back that due to my absence and abstinence from starting up my ride thanks to out of station work, the battery had died down and the engine warning light was ON and the engine never cranked when someone attempted to start her up. So today a good friend of mine took the pains to help her come back to life from coma.

For NOOBS this may be helpful:

Since, my model is of 2010 make, it doesnot come with the kicker and only has an electric start as an option. One may think that oh my god!! now since the battery is dead, the world has come to an end and we shall all perish!! Not the case children!! all one needs to do is put the fuel knob on ON or reserve, keep the key to ON position, engage 2nd gear let the helpful brother/uncle/sibling/security guard/GF? give your ride a push and then suddenly release the clutch, after an attempt or two she will come back to life. Personally i feel the kick lever looks mighty ugly Yuckkkk!! and prefer the electric starter only anyday.

In my case as my friend informed me, when he attempted the above method, my ride spluttered once or twice and then cranked to life emitting a huge plum of black smoke from the exhaust for first 10-15 seconds then everything was normal. I guess this has happened due to incomplete combustion and dirt or gum deposition in the fuel lines which got sucked out after she was started..

He took her to a local mechanic, got the battery out, refilled it with distilled water and let it set on charge for 8 hours. No matter how much i hate stock AMCO battery, it has retained its charge post 2.1 years of ownership and ofcourse due to periodic maintenance and ensuring that electrolyte level is always up to the mark. While the rest of the bike was just oiled and greased. The Carburetor was drained from the drain screw and as per PSR JIs advice, i had drained the tank completely got it cleaned and fresh fuel was put in to remove any dirt/gum formation due to oxidation of old fuel is taken out before it starts clogging the system..

Once i come back, she will receive a healthy session of system G. I had given strict instructions to my friend that the local mechanic is not to be left alone with my ride to do what he pleases and no engine oil change or any kind of servicing is to take place. No one except the boys at Kamla Yamaha, Mumbai have the exclusive rights to do whatever they wish to do with her and in my presence ofcourse!!

The rear tire had lost a lot of psi while the front had lost just 3 psi.. and after inspection the tire guys gave their verdict that the tire compound has become hard and there are many cracks all over it (as mentioned earlier!!) so now the rear tire will start losing air pressure regardless.. So I guess Dunlop Tuffgrip tire shall soon be doing duty in the rear once, i come back..

As per the feedback from my friend, the mechanics were astonished when he told them that this bike is 2 years old and has already done 22k+. They thought it was 8 months or a year old as the engine was vibe free and the whole bike looked new and shiny (some extra tips to the cleaner coming up!!). So I guess its time to give myself a pat on the back and some brownie points ofcourse!! She is still butter smooth, gear engages easily, no clutch slippage and eager to go crazy on the corners even though her shoes have lost the original slickness due to the rubber hardening. Motul 300V 15W 50 FS oil looked light brown, oil level was normal and it has retained its integrity even after her lying idle for such a long time so thats makes it earn 5 stars from my end.

I normally would have bored you all with pics however this time it was not me who did all this. I am grateful to my friend and he has assured me that she would be taken out for a spin once a week which i feel is more than enough to keep her in top shape!

Now the only thing is pending is giving her the new bigger heart 180CC courtesy Race Concepts along with other major power up kit upgrades which i shall cover extensively along with pics and videos in the Powerhouse FZ 18 thread at Pit Stop and General Biking Discussion master thread.

Stay tuned..

Cheers,

@shv - good to see you taking care of the bike even in your absence.

To pust start you dont need a second person.. Just push a little hard in second gear(with clutch pressed) and jump on the bike. When in control, just release the clutch. The transition from engine off to engine on in Fz is so smooth that you wont even get a jerk!
Even my bike is without a kick and I was forced to push start one day.
I read somewhere.. may be on this thread some 2 years back, that while you are away, you should remove the negative terminal of the battery and close the fuel knob.
It is still manageable, just imagine someone left his gigantic SUV for two three months and when he returns, the whole family is out there pushing! Its always advisable to remove the negative terminal in cars to avoid such an ordeal.

Thanks for the info.. Well i was supposed to return from the assignment in 10 days and now its almost 3 months.. so everything became unpredictable.. Otherwise i would have disconnected the battery completely.. Anyways as a habit i always keep the fuel knob on OFF position.


Cheers,

Second service report.

Got second service done yesterday.

It was better than last time.
After service bike feels better. Although the engine losing power momentarily is still present.

But the pain point... they washed the front disc with diesel again!!
Front brake is still with very low bite...

My fault... I forgot to tell them not to do it!!

Now, coming to Shiv's initiative of rating SVCs. Here are my inputs


My answers to the questions in normal font.