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**neer350** · 10-26-2012, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post

Youre getting it all wrong, abhijitkn, and also did Deville!

I commented on someone else citing a "recommendation/ comment/ advice" or whatever, saying it was from Deville, and this comment - if ever it was really what it has been reported, was/ would have been highly objectionable! And on safety issues, I have little tolerance, you or whoever else like it or not! This is not bullying each other, but straightening thing up.

I you, abhijitkn or Deville, had taken the time to read instead of jumping on their keyboard and feel offended (or wanting to rule this forum...), you would both have seen that I more than once put reserves on the authenticity of Deville's comments report....and I have other things to do in life that going through the entire forum to trace the original post!!!.

Last but not least: whatever I write concerning safety in brake maintenance - or else- is NOT someone's else problem, but everybody's! I do not reckon you right in censoring this. You are a bit young for me, abhijitkn...!

Thanks for your valuable advice....i've checked the oil level,its full......its good to see that you are so much concerned about everyone's safety.

**gn.times** · 10-27-2012, 01:26 AM

Mates is there any silicone and lithium based lubes available in the form of SPRAY/liquid??Last week when I tried to lube with lithium grease the pivot points in brake pedal, shift pedal, foot pegs, suspension pivots, etc. it was really hard to push the grease inside the pivots since most of them are enclosed.

Any solution?

I also recommend while cleaning & lubing chain it's better to remove and clean the front sprocket cover where you can find a load of sand/soil staying and wearing the front sprocket and chain also.

Thanks in advance

**Naveen1985** · 10-27-2012, 05:33 PM

any news of limited editions...???
As per my knowledge yamaha normally introduce limited editions in festive seasons...

**jonahmano** · 10-27-2012, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Subhradeep View Post

Hi mates,
I am having an issue with my Fazer(it is only 20 days old). I ride it only on saturday & sunday(As my office is not at my hometown, I stay away from my home in the weekdays). When I try to start the bike on Friday night/Saturday morning, I cannot start it using the self start, after lot of tries in both self & kick, & use of choke I can get it stated. I went to the showroom, those guys told me that it is natuaral as I don't use it continiously for five days. They adviced to tell anyone to keep the engine on for 5 mins per day. Could you please tell me whether it is natuaral or not?And how to solve it? I am going to do one modification in this weekend,by which I shall be able to switch both the headlamps on simultaneously in both upper & dipper . Will it create more problems?

What's your idle speed? Ride your bike say 5kms and see the idle speed. 1.4k RPM is fine to lessen starting problems. I too had these kinda problems when I bought my bike and after setting the idling speed, it vanished. With my bike being modded now, I do this differently - First open the throttle a bit and then push the self and the bike gets started. See if this method goes right for you.

**deville_56** · 10-27-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

any news of limited editions...???
As per my knowledge yamaha normally introduce limited editions in festive seasons...

There is one blue edition as per some posts in FB page.

**Mad Mik** · 10-27-2012, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by gn.times View Post

Mates is there any silicone and lithium based lubes available in the form of SPRAY/liquid??Last week when I tried to lube with lithium grease the pivot points in brake pedal, shift pedal, foot pegs, suspension pivots, etc. it was really hard to push the grease inside the pivots since most of them are enclosed.

Any solution?

I also recommend while cleaning & lubing chain it's better to remove and clean the front sprocket cover where you can find a load of sand/soil staying and wearing the front sprocket and chain also.

Thanks in advance

I use Motul Chain Lube for more than lubing the chain. I also spray inside the open ends of the chassis, the pivot points of the above mentioned parts, Not to mention padlocks left exposed to the rain, gate hinges etc.
If the pivot was supposed to accept grease then there would have been a grease nipple supplied to it.

**MR ACE** · 10-27-2012, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by deville_56 View Post

There is one blue edition as per some posts in FB page.

Saw one on-road. It was blue with silver finish on front fender, side scoops.
Looks good.

**krish2778** · 10-27-2012, 08:47 PM

Guys, i have some problems to report,The bike has completed 2k kms today, first service done at 1k kms, and things were ok, but since the last 10-50 kms i feel that the bike goes till 55(4k rpm at 5th gear) smoothly, and from there, the bike is vibrating and feeling very rough, during the run-in i had taken the bike to higher rpm gradually at times to get it familiarized with the higher rpm band , but i don't know why this is happening now.So this after 4k rpm the bike shows very much difficulty in picking up speed, if i force the throttle too much it climbs , but not the way it should, i'm already running a lean mixture with the carb setting , can this be the issue ? i also somehow feel that the air filter is not cleaned or might be clogged, strange it should clog in 1k kms only, or maybe the svc guys dint cleaned it up.Any suggestion guys ?CheersRide SafeKrishna

**neer350** · 10-27-2012, 11:58 PM

Done with Washing and polishing.......Ready to burn some hearts...

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Guys, i have some problems to report,The bike has completed 2k kms today, first service done at 1k kms, and things were ok, but since the last 10-50 kms i feel that the bike goes till 55(4k rpm at 5th gear) smoothly, and from there, the bike is vibrating and feeling very rough, during the run-in i had taken the bike to higher rpm gradually at times to get it familiarized with the higher rpm band , but i don't know why this is happening now.So this after 4k rpm the bike shows very much difficulty in picking up speed, if i force the throttle too much it climbs , but not the way it should, i'm already running a lean mixture with the carb setting , can this be the issue ? i also somehow feel that the air filter is not cleaned or might be clogged, strange it should clog in 1k kms only, or maybe the svc guys dint cleaned it up.Any suggestion guys ?CheersRide SafeKrishna

From my experience, this is natural behavior. My fazer is 7k km old,initially it was a bit rough after 55-60 km/h,but as the kms were added ,the bike became more smoother. And after 3rd service,it is super smooth and i am loving it......

**shv18** · 10-28-2012, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Guys, i have some problems to report,The bike has completed 2k kms today, first service done at 1k kms, and things were ok, but since the last 10-50 kms i feel that the bike goes till 55(4k rpm at 5th gear) smoothly, and from there, the bike is vibrating and feeling very rough, during the run-in i had taken the bike to higher rpm gradually at times to get it familiarized with the higher rpm band , but i don't know why this is happening now.So this after 4k rpm the bike shows very much difficulty in picking up speed, if i force the throttle too much it climbs , but not the way it should, i'm already running a lean mixture with the carb setting , can this be the issue ? i also somehow feel that the air filter is not cleaned or might be clogged, strange it should clog in 1k kms only, or maybe the svc guys dint cleaned it up.Any suggestion guys ?CheersRide SafeKrishna

Simple solution, downshift to 4th or if necessary 3rd gear, rev to 5-6k and then shift to 5th. The power and the speed also gets affected if you are unknowingly riding on an elevated road instead of flat stretch. Try that and see if you feel any major changes in vibes. Unless the ride is becoming unbearably vibey, i don't think there is anything to worry. Like our mate has mentioned post 3rd service, she will become even more free. If you treat her with good engine oil, gears will engage super slick and the vibes and the engine temps will also go down drastically.

Cheers,

**krish2778** · 10-28-2012, 07:42 AM

I'm not sure what to expect as this is the only FZ i have ridden and riding.And this behavior was present all through out my rideing yesterday, in every road condition,leveld,elevated and all.
Its not unbearably viby, just annoyingly viby, thats not a normal vibration to be felt.

Yamalube mineral is the engine oil being used, gear shifts are starting to get hard, finding neutral is a bit of issue, i do feel one more oil change is needed since only a few kms before at about 1.4k kms the run-in was complete.

And shv, would a dirty air filter cause such problem ? the roughness ? How long is the general frequency for cleaning the air filter for paper element filters ? My riding environment is not that dusty.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Originally posted by shv18 View Post

Simple solution, downshift to 4th or if necessary 3rd gear, rev to 5-6k and then shift to 5th. The power and the speed also gets affected if you are unknowingly riding on an elevated road instead of flat stretch. Try that and see if you feel any major changes in vibes. Unless the ride is becoming unbearably vibey, i don't think there is anything to worry. Like our mate has mentioned post 3rd service, she will become even more free. If you treat her with good engine oil, gears will engage super slick and the vibes and the engine temps will also go down drastically.

Cheers,

**Subhradeep** · 10-28-2012, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

any news of limited editions...???
As per my knowledge yamaha normally introduce limited editions in festive seasons...

Hi buddy,
I have already posted one pic of the limited edition blue-silver Fazer few pages back in this thread... Posting it again.

Originally posted by shv18 View Post

Bro,

Apply slight throttle while starting and see if it cranks then. If it does then there is no problem. Hope you adjusted the AFR back to normal otherwise that also results to cold start problems and in the long run damages the engine.

Cheers,

Thanks Shv for your updates...I did not change anything in the AFR ratio..It is set as stock...When I bought the bike is it already set to normal?or should I change it?

**Mad Mik** · 10-28-2012, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Yamalube mineral is the engine oil being used, gear shifts are starting to get hard, finding neutral is a bit of issue, i do feel one more oil change is needed since only a few kms before at about 1.4k kms the run-in was complete.

And shv, would a dirty air filter cause such problem ? the roughness ? How long is the general frequency for cleaning the air filter for paper element filters ? My riding environment is not that dusty.

Hard gears can be wrong oil or clutch not disengaging and dragging.
With a new engine I'd be dropping oil as often as I can. Yes the instruction manual tells you not to drop it for XXXkms and other members will preach to you that the oil change intervals must be strictly adhered to blah blah blah.

After changing your oil, can you remember if your gear shift was easier or the same?
If it was easier then there is your answer. Change the oil.

Prop your bike up on the center stand, start the engine, clutch in and engage 1st. Check if the rear wheel spins or not. Some will have a initial spin and stop (mine doesn't spin at all due to me adjusting it) others will spin slowly. If your wheel spins excessivly then you will need to adjust your clutch.

A clogged airfilter won't contribute to vibrations in your engine, The vibrations come from rotational masses, Not air getting sucked into the engine.

**shv18** · 10-28-2012, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Subhradeep View Post

Thanks Shv for your updates...I did not change anything in the AFR ratio..It is set as stock...When I bought the bike is it already set to normal?or should I change it?

If nothing has been fiddled with let it be the way it is. Check the engine idling speed once the ride has warmed up. If it just 1100/1300 rpm, increase it to 1400/1500 and then attempt starting when the engine cold.

Cheers,

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

I'm not sure what to expect as this is the only FZ i have ridden and riding.And this behavior was present all through out my rideing yesterday, in every road condition,leveld,elevated and all.
Its not unbearably viby, just annoyingly viby, thats not a normal vibration to be felt.

Yamalube mineral is the engine oil being used, gear shifts are starting to get hard, finding neutral is a bit of issue, i do feel one more oil change is needed since only a few kms before at about 1.4k kms the run-in was complete.

And shv, would a dirty air filter cause such problem ? the roughness ? How long is the general frequency for cleaning the air filter for paper element filters ? My riding environment is not that dusty.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Yamalube? EEEKS!! i have mentioned it many times on this thread, the current lot of Yamalube SUCKS!! Don't ever commit the crime of putting that horrible oil in your ride!! Like MIK has mentioned then all the signs are pointing towards crappy oil or the clutch.

If budget is an issue then shift to Motul mineral oil 3000V 20W 40, costs same as Yamalube. If monies no problem shift to 300V 15W 50 single ester SS oil or for a thicker grade go for Motul 7100 20W 50 oil.

Cheers,

**Subhradeep** · 10-28-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by shv18 View Post

If nothing has been fiddled with let it be the way it is. Check the engine idling speed once the ride has warmed up. If it just 1100/1300 rpm, increase it to 1400/1500 and then attempt starting when the engine cold.

Cheers,

Thanks again bro..Sorry to ask this...what is idling speed??How can I change the idling speed..

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