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  • Originally posted by Duoscribe View Post
    Got my rear tyre changed couple weeks back. the profile was a not so popular size (for fz) of 120/80 17. make Ceat Vertigo Sport. cost was Rs. 2,800 in Bangalore.
    the main reason for opting this particular tyre was the thread pattern. this will be hugely helpful in my impending trip to Leh next year. have done just over 1000kms on the new tyre.
    handling and stability of the bike remains the same. this tyre scores amazingly well on broken roads and gravel, unlike the stock tyre. higher profile also aids better cushioning to the rim. last week did 600kms round trip from Banagalore to Kolli Hills. thats roughly 400kms on highway and 200kms on twisties & country roads (140 hair-pin bends to & fro ). no niggles cornering. sticks well to the tarmac.
    the only downside i see is in the aesthetics. i does look a bit skinny. the eye is so used to see the fat rear tyre. ideally i would have preferred 130/70, but could'n find one.




    For comparo - The bike on the left is on Michelin Sirac 120/80 18 profile. Will try to get a picture next to a stock fz (unfortunately no friend of mine has a fz).



    cheers!
    Good choice of tire for off roading mate . Though one piece of advice.. remove the tire hugger as if you notice the distance between them has significantly reduced and will start rubbing with the hugger during hardcore mud and slush rides. The TVS Eurogrip is not tubeless by nature if i remember correctly .. however people have used it as a tubeless tire on FZs as the alloy mag wheels are designed for tubeless tires.

    I would recommend that you don't try hard cornering on such tires as right now you are getting a false impression of good grip. With the 120-80-17 profile, the suspension has got a very little play for dampening. As a result the settings have become automatically stiffer.. The rebound rate will be hard and tough should you go through a pot hole at very high speeds while cornering and may result in the tire slipping really bad as the rubber compound is very hard by nature. Such off-roading tires are not designed for good sticky grip like stock or soft compound tires. Though the advantage will be that this one will be good to last 30,000+ kms unless you are into burnouts.

    For add on protection you can use slime/ ride on TPS puncture sealant on both front and rear tires which can handle sub zero temperature operation.

    Just my two cents.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by shv18; 11-23-2012, 11:05 PM. Reason: add ons and corrections
    A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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    • Re: Yamaha FZ-16

      Can anyone let me know how they clean the engine , tyres and rim of tyre??

      It looks sexy wen its jus out of servicing, plain solid black.
      N it goes away aft few days..

      Atleast i want me engine to be clean black always..

      I want to clean it once a week..

      Anyone knows how to do it??
      Please reply.
      Tia

      Sent from my GT-S5830 using Tapatalk 2

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      • Originally posted by shreyasvb View Post
        Can anyone let me know how they clean the engine , tyres and rim of tyre??

        It looks sexy wen its jus out of servicing, plain solid black.
        N it goes away aft few days..

        Atleast i want me engine to be clean black always..

        I want to clean it once a week..

        Anyone knows how to do it??

        Please reply.
        Tia

        Sent from my GT-S5830 using Tapatalk 2
        yes! i have got a solution.it will last for atleast 2 months(when done properly).so,the solution is a solution of black oil paint+non alcoholic paint diluter.also i have tried other polishes etc,but they dont last for more than a day.
        you will require-black oil paint,non alcoholic paint diuter (known as 'tarpeen')a piece of cloth,toothbrush and another bigger,clean piece of cloth which is not made of cotton and a paintbrush(1" width)
        the process-clean the engine with the toothbrush and cloth thoroughly.
        dilute the paint with the diluter till it becomes as dilute as water(!!).on the cleaned engine apply the diluted paint,start from top to bottom.basically,all you have to do is to wash the engine with the diluted paint.(so get plenty of newspapers).leave it for 15 mins.now,take the non cotton cloth and start wiping the engine.remember,you are polishing the engine and not painting it.after you have finished off with the process,you will get a black engine as you wished.
        precautions-1.after doing this process you cannot ride the bike for atleast a day because the paint remains inflammable till its smell remains with it(but the chance of paint catching fire is low because paint is dilute as water and you have also wiped some amount of paint from it).after a day when you resume with your riding,you will get a burning smell when engine gets hot,but it is nothing to worry about as the paint was diluted to the point that it will not catch fire.
        2.don't paint the exhaust pipe.
        you can repeat the process for better results.if followed properly you will get pleasing results which will last for at least 2 months.
        i have done this process twice.you can try if you like.
        *i am not responsible for any of the mistakes.mods if you find my suggestion unsafe/inappropriate,delete my post.

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        • Torque wrench query

          Hello guys,

          I got the delivery of my sexy, midnight black FZ16 last night. It's on the TC number, so haven't been able to go for a long ride. But, I just can't stop staring at it! lol

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          Anyways, I've read the owner's manual and have come across many simple tasks that I feel I can perform on my own without damaging by bike (even though I am a complete noob to biking). However, according to the manual, all these tasks (eg. removing and checking the spark plug), can not be performed by me because the tool kit does not have a torque wrench. It seems that apart from checking the oil level there is nothing that does not require a torque wrench.

          What I want to know is what exactly is a torque wrench, how does it function and where can I get one? I do have a little knowledge about physics, so the questions do seem a little obvious even to me, but I just want to know the exact and the correct answers.

          Also, I keep feeling while riding my bike that my headlights are too high (even when they're not on high beam). The manual does not mention how to adjust it but I found the way, courtesy this thread. I pushed the lights as low as possible but even then I still feel that the focus of the light is too high. Any ideas/solution about this?

          Thanks

          Thanks

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          • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
            Firstly you have to warm up the engine oil and then check it.. not ride for 15 kms. If you do so the reading will always be incorrect as most of the engine oil has been pumped around for lubrication. I would personally recommend that you shift to SS or FS grade from Motul. Cheaper FS oil will be 7100 20W 50 which can be put in FZ/Fazer as per the manual (20W 40/20W 50). Or cheaper SS oil grade will be Motul 300V 15W 50 Single ester which is around 550 bucks INR i think!

            Cheers,
            If i am not wrong Motul 300v 15w50 is double ester which is full synthetic and motul 5100 15 w 50 is semi synthetic which costs around 520 bucks INR

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            • Originally posted by DevGoswami View Post
              Hello guys,

              I got the delivery of my sexy, midnight black FZ16 last night. It's on the TC number, so haven't been able to go for a long ride. But, I just can't stop staring at it! lol

              [ATTACH=CONFIG]86851[/ATTACH]

              Anyways, I've read the owner's manual and have come across many simple tasks that I feel I can perform on my own without damaging by bike (even though I am a complete noob to biking). However, according to the manual, all these tasks (eg. removing and checking the spark plug), can not be performed by me because the tool kit does not have a torque wrench. It seems that apart from checking the oil level there is nothing that does not require a torque wrench.

              What I want to know is what exactly is a torque wrench, how does it function and where can I get one? I do have a little knowledge about physics, so the questions do seem a little obvious even to me, but I just want to know the exact and the correct answers.



              Also, I keep feeling while riding my bike that my headlights are too high (even when they're not on high beam). The manual does not mention how to adjust it but I found the way, courtesy this thread. I pushed the lights as low as possible but even then I still feel that the focus of the light is too high. Any ideas/solution about this?

              Thanks

              Thanks
              Hey man stay cool. Since it's your new bike, you don't need to check the spark plug unless your bike gives some mileage like say 25-30 km/l range. Stock bike tuned carb shouldn't be touched till 5000 kms. It's an order from Yamaha.

              Ok now coming to torque wrench, the torque wrenches which you want to buy are very costly (especially foreign ones and you need good support and machinery in your area for periodical calibration) and if you buy indian made torque wrenches then you can't be guaranteed about the accuracy.

              The best is to invest in Box and T spanners and use them instead of monkey spanner supplied to with the tool kit.

              Talking about your headlights, you can just lower down by using one of the spanners in the tool kit. Just loose the nut and lower the position and tight it back˙. The nut is on one of the sides of the headlight assembly.

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              • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                Hey man stay cool. Since it's your new bike, you don't need to check the spark plug unless your bike gives some mileage like say 25-30 km/l range. Stock bike tuned carb shouldn't be touched till 5000 kms. It's an order from Yamaha.

                Ok now coming to torque wrench, the torque wrenches which you want to buy are very costly (especially foreign ones and you need good support and machinery in your area for periodical calibration) and if you buy indian made torque wrenches then you can't be guaranteed about the accuracy.

                The best is to invest in Box and T spanners and use them instead of monkey spanner supplied to with the tool kit.

                Talking about your headlights, you can just lower down by using one of the spanners in the tool kit. Just loose the nut and lower the position and tight it back˙. The nut is on one of the sides of the headlight assembly.
                I am not worried about the spark plug. I was using that as an example. But, thanks a lot for your reply and suggestion . However, one query, isn't a box or a T spanner the same as the monkey spanner with regards to the fact I won't be able to tighten the bolts as recommended in the manual (which tells you the tightening torque in NM)?

                Maybe I should rephrase my question. Is the tightening torque of a bolt as a big a deal as the manual makes to be? If it is, then I cannot open/unscrew almost all of my bike?

                The headlights... well, I tried that. What you told is exactly what is said in a few posts in this thread. I did that and pushed the headlights assembly to lowest point. But, I still feel it's too high. Eg. I can see far off objects (15-20 feet away from me) easily, but today I moved onto the right lane and at the last moment I saw a 'khadda' in front of me. I feel I would've seen that in time had my headlights been a little lower.

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                • Originally posted by DevGoswami View Post
                  Hello guys,

                  I got the delivery of my sexy, midnight black FZ16 last night. It's on the TC number, so haven't been able to go for a long ride. But, I just can't stop staring at it! lol

                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]86851[/ATTACH]

                  Anyways, I've read the owner's manual and have come across many simple tasks that I feel I can perform on my own without damaging by bike (even though I am a complete noob to biking). However, according to the manual, all these tasks (eg. removing and checking the spark plug), can not be performed by me because the tool kit does not have a torque wrench. It seems that apart from checking the oil level there is nothing that does not require a torque wrench.

                  What I want to know is what exactly is a torque wrench, how does it function and where can I get one? I do have a little knowledge about physics, so the questions do seem a little obvious even to me, but I just want to know the exact and the correct answers.

                  Also, I keep feeling while riding my bike that my headlights are too high (even when they're not on high beam). The manual does not mention how to adjust it but I found the way, courtesy this thread. I pushed the lights as low as possible but even then I still feel that the focus of the light is too high. Any ideas/solution about this?

                  Thanks

                  Thanks
                  Congrats and welcome
                  I feel exactly the same about headlights. i adjusted them to lowest position but still I feel it is going upwards and not enough illumination on the road. May be a design issue or something?
                  Is there any workaround/mod guys?

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                  • Originally posted by shreyasvb View Post
                    Can anyone let me know how they clean the engine , tyres and rim of tyre??

                    It looks sexy wen its jus out of servicing, plain solid black.
                    N it goes away aft few days..

                    Atleast i want me engine to be clean black always..

                    I want to clean it once a week..

                    Anyone knows how to do it??
                    Please reply.
                    Tia

                    Sent from my GT-S5830 using Tapatalk 2
                    Just spray some diesel and wipe off. Simple.
                    #RetiredRider
                    #KeyboardWarrior

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                    • Originally posted by uddiptocse View Post
                      If i am not wrong Motul 300v 15w50 is double ester which is full synthetic and motul 5100 15 w 50 is semi synthetic which costs around 520 bucks INR
                      300V 15W 50 also has single ester ss oil. Double ester is FS oil. Unless they have discontinued the product, it should be available at Motul authorised dealer.


                      Cheers,
                      A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                      • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                        300V 15W 50 also has single ester ss oil. Double ester is FS oil. Unless they have discontinued the product, it should be available at Motul authorised dealer.


                        Cheers,
                        300v is full synthetic and cost 850+, not SS.
                        5100 is the only SS from Motul. 7100 is also full synthetic, recommended by Motul for FZ.
                        #RetiredRider
                        #KeyboardWarrior

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                        • Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
                          300v is full synthetic and cost 850+, not SS.
                          5100 is the only SS from Motul. 7100 is also full synthetic, recommended by Motul for FZ.
                          Mate the one you are talking about is the 300V Double ester which is indeed FS oil. Motul also has/had the 300V in Single ester which is SS oil as confirmed to me by the dealer. Unless they have discontinued it then other alternative options suggested by you are good too .

                          Cheers,
                          A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                          • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                            Mate the one you are talking about is the 300V Double ester which is indeed FS oil. Motul also has/had the 300V in Single ester which is SS oil as confirmed to me by the dealer. Unless they have discontinued it then other alternative options suggested by you are good too .

                            Cheers,
                            There is no SS variant of 300v AFAIK. Nothing so is listed anywhere in Motul site nor the Google returned any single ester 300v, not even in their 2010 and 2012 pamphlets. Get me some link than the dealer's wordings
                            #RetiredRider
                            #KeyboardWarrior

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                            • @shv - Have seen you getting confused with the grades of motul previously too..

                              300V is FS oil with double ester technology. Comes in two grades 10w40 and 15w50. Costs around 950 INR (Ppl get it cheaper too)

                              7100 is also a FS oil but with single ester I think it comes with 20W50 grade only. Costs 750 INR something.

                              5100 is a SS and

                              3000 and 3100 are other grades it comes in. You wont find 3100 on website.. but its sold at the shops.

                              Dealers and Mechanics have little info on grades..

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                              • Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
                                There is no SS variant of 300v AFAIK. Nothing so is listed anywhere in Motul site nor the Google returned any single ester 300v, not even in their 2010 and 2012 pamphlets. Get me some link than the dealer's wordings
                                Mate,

                                If you can back track to the point where i had posted many many pages ago, i had shifted to Motul 300V FS oil, there i had mentioned about the existence of the same. Although i don't remember if i had clicked the picture of the 300V SS oil product and posted it here. So let me do one thing to rest this once and for all... once, i hit Mumbai, i am due for an oil change anyways, if the dealer still has the stock of the 300V single ester, i shall click a pic and post it here. I hope that should end this speculation.

                                A lot of new products and old products are not mentioned on the website so i guess they are kinda slow in updating it or may be the they have phased out the stock.

                                Cheers,
                                Last edited by shv18; 11-24-2012, 08:49 AM.
                                A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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