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  • #20986
    Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

    Originally posted by bikashnayak View Post
    Yes the seal was changed by mechanic he's having Shop only for Yamaha Bike and he deals only in Yamaha Bike giving original spare parts. This is my First fork Oil change ( 1yrs,9Months Old)
    I changed the brake fluid because stock OIL was a bit left. This is my first brake fluid change.... Disc was washed by petrol , then dried and again Returning home I washed with soap water. I ride again 10-15km now brakes are little bit effective but not that much which was earlier. We will be going to meet mechanic again tomorrow.

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    I ride in city normal roads with many speed braker which I hate it... About pot holes very rare when visting to my friends home, stop traffic yes alot. Yes I was riding a lot with front brake earlier when I was New Rider but after getting accident in new year I started making habit of using rear brake after that I never met with accident (Touchwood).

    Ah... Accident you say. Was your fork affected in the accident?
    One does not wash disk pads with petrol or diesel. The feedback reduces and your pads had fork oil on them to begin with. Just change them and clean your disk plate to restore the brake feedback.

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    • #20987
      Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

      Yes I met with an accident on 31st December and Fork alignment was done ,Costed me Rs.450. You are saying that I should replace the Disc pad completely with new one???? How much will it cost Both Disc pad new.

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      • #20988
        Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

        Originally posted by bikashnayak View Post
        Yes I met with an accident on 31st December and Fork alignment was done ,Costed me Rs.450. You are saying that I should replace the Disc pad completely with new one???? How much will it cost Both Disc pad new.

        Yes that is what I said. Your old pads have been through enough to not be able to perform properly. Changing them is your bed option. Should cost you 200-300/-.
        The reason I asked about the accident was to confirm if the fork alignment was done. Accidents damage the fork and can thus affect the fork oil seals as well.

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        • #20989
          Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

          Originally posted by Balgi View Post
          Ah... Accident you say. Was your fork affected in the accident?
          One does not wash disk pads with petrol or diesel. The feedback reduces and your pads had fork oil on them to begin with. Just change them and clean your disk plate to restore the brake feedback.
          Many many thanks ... Washed with detergent scrub and let it dried with blower ,Changed the Old Brake pad with New Brake Pad kit costed me Rs.145 by Yamaha SVC and Changed by local mechanic near by Home Rs20/-. Now the front brake is effective and back to normal. Now the front tyre is not which freely a little bit stiff I guess due to new Brake pad , will check after riding 100-200km.

          Again thanks to everyone who suggested me , As I found that extra Rs.170/- was enough to make my ride feel that I am ready to ride the streets again....!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          • #20990
            Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

            Exhaust popping on deceleration and/or when 'clutch lever' is pulled 'in', even after plug showing brown colour on insulator is due to dirty clogged pilot circuit/jet or does the exhaust connection need checking too ?
            Or am I diagnosing this all wrong ??
            Noticed popping in abovesaid conditions whenever bike is at <=3k rpm.
            Please help.

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            • #20991
              Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

              Originally posted by curve_king View Post
              Exhaust popping on deceleration and/or when 'clutch lever' is pulled 'in', even after plug showing brown colour on insulator is due to dirty clogged pilot circuit/jet or does the exhaust connection need checking too ?
              Or am I diagnosing this all wrong ??
              Noticed popping in abovesaid conditions whenever bike is at <=3k rpm.
              Please help.

              I believe the mixture is rich and maybe just maybe the timing is a little off. But you can confirm this by simply checking the tip of the exhaust nozzle for soot (black powdery residue). If this exists then the mixture is rich.

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              • #20992
                Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                i can help out with the oil aspect, you should go for power1 15W 40

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                • #20993
                  Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                  Originally posted by OverSealous View Post
                  i can help out with the oil aspect, you should go for power1 15W 40
                  I am using the same oil, been ~700-800kms. I feel its much better than using 15w50 grade oil. Shifts much smoother and engine runs cooler.
                  Ride safe and have fun.
                  Regards
                  Nadeem

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                  • #20994
                    Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                    Well, at last installed the new tyre, along with new rear allow. The new tyre looks much rounder than stock tyre. (had planned to change the front tyre this month, but now that would have to wait for a couple of months.)
                    Also changed the dampers and the wheel bearings. They used NBC bearings, 6202 number. Cost ₹390 for two piece and ₹90 for dampers.
                    Ride safe and have fun.
                    Regards
                    Nadeem

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                    • #20995
                      Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                      Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                      Well, at last installed the new tyre, along with new rear allow. The new tyre looks much rounder than stock tyre. (had planned to change the front tyre this month, but now that would have to wait for a couple of months.)
                      Also changed the dampers and the wheel bearings. They used NBC bearings, 6202 number. Cost ₹390 for two piece and ₹90 for dampers.
                      Bearings of Yamaha Genuine Parts are of FAG and not NBC, costs Rs. 80 each.

                      Cheerz!!
                      The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                      Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                      • #20996
                        Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                        Originally posted by Akkiben View Post
                        @Ishwor : Thanks mate, you said it.The mechanics do more harm than help to our precious bikes. Yes im gonna stick to the 459ml per tube and have a calibrated measure.
                        I guess the springs have gone bad too, thanks to the previous owner's foolhardiness. Will look to replace that as well.
                        @accuengineer: The bike has clocked 24300kms on odo, its a 2010 model, bought second hand, so service history is very limited.
                        Yes, im gonna have a look at the bearing set for lubrication, but can't seem to figure out how to take it apart. Can you guide me on this?
                        I purchased the full cone set/race bearings at YASS for 225INR, I just hope i havent missed out on any part here. :/

                        I'm 100% sure the bugger has not had the fork oil replaced till date, even the incompetent SVC has not bothered. I sometimes wonder why these companies provide us the manual and detail out the maintenance schedule when the pathetic SVC do nothing but wash the bike, that too superficially and ruin the bike before handing it to us.

                        Well, i see this nonsensical attitude from all SVC, YAMAHA/HONDA/KAWASAKI/SUZUKI. God save our bikes.
                        We share very same experiance.
                        Me too bought fz second hand and had no service history.Mine has clocked 72 thousand kms recently and is still going strong.

                        I changed fork oil and spring fork oil myself but in presence of the mechanic(he is senior mechanic from yamaha svc and runs a workshop where he works on off office hour).
                        He is kind of training me and i pay him for this.
                        There is detail procedure for the job on the service manual but i would advice you to perform the job with the help of mechanic for the first time.

                        Regarding breaing set lubrication: i cant help you here bro.


                        Sent from my Samsung Galaxy s3

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                        • #20997
                          Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                          Originally posted by Mizt View Post
                          I was smoked BY pulsar 150 on the highway , when I was doing 112 which seems to be the current topend of my ride. My question is that P150 was with a pillion , how could it manage to overtake someone doing Solo on speed of 110+. Is P150 that much potent on the topend or is something wrong with my ride.

                          Here are few info on my ride total KMS -36K , Last service done 31000 on the ODO, Engine oil -Motul 3100 SL, custom air filter (might be the culprit) , Chain set changed at 28000KMs,clutch plates never replaced and sparkplug never replaced.
                          Worn out Front tyre and Dunlop Tuff Grip 140/70 2yrs old and run 14000kms.
                          Maybe 140/70 tyre which is heavier than stock is the culprit tooo.

                          Sent from my Samsung Galaxy s3

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                          • #20998
                            Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                            Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                            Bearings of Yamaha Genuine Parts are of FAG and not NBC, costs Rs. 80 each.

                            Cheerz!!
                            I had not planned on changing the bearing, but the way mechanic hammered the bearing out from the damaged alloy, i though it would be much better to put new ones and i told him how to push the bearing correctly and not hammer them straight out.

                            They had only NBC bearings and felt of good quality (i deal with bearing a lot and know quite about them). Lets hope they stay put.

                            By the way, now tyre at the rear and pretty old at the front makes the bike difficult to handle. Front was not staying in line in braking. Gotta get new one installed soon.
                            The stock front is zapper fx and the news ones are fx1. Thread patter seems to be little different.
                            Ride safe and have fun.
                            Regards
                            Nadeem

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                            • #20999
                              Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                              Hi friends, Pls suggest the best fully synthetic from the following-
                              1. mobil1 FS
                              2. motul 7100 FS
                              3. elf moto FS
                              4. gulf FS
                              5. valvoline FS
                              or any other except castrol

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                              • #21000
                                Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                                Originally posted by Balgi View Post
                                I believe the mixture is rich and maybe just maybe the timing is a little off. But you can confirm this by simply checking the tip of the exhaust nozzle for soot (black powdery residue). If this exists then the mixture is rich.
                                Thanks..will check the exhaust.(the bike isnt with me right now)
                                But I hope that there's no soot as plug is showing brown colour not black. And if there is, then thats just plain confusing to me.

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