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  • #21601
    Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

    Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
    Air is air, whether normal or dense.
    It isn't.
    Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
    Pressing of lever moves the fluid towards the callipers under pressure and if there are air bubbles present, they will be displaced by the fluid and they will move up.
    Yes, air is displaced along with brake-fluid, not sure how this helps air to bubble-up.

    Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
    If the whole braking system were to be 100% leak proof, then there shouldn't be any air inside the system. Over a period of time, air will penetrate through the system.
    No one claimed it & we're not discussing how air came in.

    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    1. Brake fluids are incompressible and hence they force the air out of the system. What is that you're unable to comprehend here?
    2. Pistons are not 100% leak proof (for air). They are for liquids.
    Agreed, pistons are not 100% leak-proof, some liquid/air escapes while slide action. I'm not convinced that master-cylinder-piston leaks air but not brake-liquid.

    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    For the pet bottle experiment, please use Google.
    I got it now what you meant by pet-soft-drinks bottle. Shouldn't it be easier to depress-lever and shake/tap the brake-hose to help bubble-up quickly instead of overnight keep?
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    • #21602
      Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

      Originally posted by Freak inExile View Post
      It isn't.

      Yes, air is displaced along with brake-fluid, not sure how this helps air to bubble-up.
      Air is air. As simple as that. Its density depends of various parameters and this is not the platform to discuss these. As for the air bubble in the brake system, it doesn't become dense by simply applying pressure to the lever. It only gets displaced by the brake fluid.

      As for how the air bubbles up, i don't know why you can't seem to understand. When the fluid goes down (by pressing of lever), air bubbles will come up (due to difference in their densities).
      Ride safe and have fun.
      Regards
      Nadeem

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      • #21603
        Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

        Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
        As for how the air bubbles up, i don't know why you can't seem to understand. When the fluid goes down (by pressing of lever), air bubbles will come up (due to difference in their densities).
        So, repeated depress of brake lever should help remove air, no?
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        • #21604
          Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

          Originally posted by Freak inExile View Post
          So, repeated depress of brake lever should help remove air, no?
          Yes it does.
          Actually whenever you were to change the brake fluid of your bike, you should check this. You will see small bubbles coming into the master cylinder through the line (if there is air inside the system).
          Ride safe and have fun.
          Regards
          Nadeem

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          • #21605
            Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

            Ohhh... This topic is going long and deep[emoji3]

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            • #21606
              Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

              ​Hello fellow riders!! i wanted to ask you guys something.My fzs had clocked about 18k km.I've got it serviced a week back where I've changed the spark plug.Now my bike returns 20-25kmpl where it used to return 30-35kmpl.I've even noticed a drop in the acceleration and the bike does not feel smooth.I've checked the tyre pressure and its fine.what may be the culprit??please help me guys!

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              • #21607
                Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                Originally posted by snehith View Post
                ​Hello fellow riders!! i wanted to ask you guys something.My fzs had clocked about 18k km.I've got it serviced a week back where I've changed the spark plug.Now my bike returns 20-25kmpl where it used to return 30-35kmpl.I've even noticed a drop in the acceleration and the bike does not feel smooth.I've checked the tyre pressure and its fine.what may be the culprit??please help me guys!
                When was the last time you changed Air Filter, Clutch Plates, Engine Oil. Cleaning and lubing chain regularly??

                Hope the carb isn't tuned to rich mixture setting. Check the tip of Spark Plug.
                The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

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                • #21608
                  Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                  Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                  When was the last time you changed Air Filter, Clutch Plates, Engine Oil. Cleaning and lubing chain regularly??

                  Hope the carb isn't tuned to rich mixture setting. Check the tip of Spark Plug.
                  Air filter was changed at 14k km.The engine oil change and chain lubing was done a week ago during the service and i regularly clean and lube the chain.Even the clutch plates were changed at 14k as i complained about the loss in acceleration and the svc guy suggested to change them saying they were worn out.
                  Correct me if i'm wrong but the carb tuned to rich means that there will be increase in acceleration and decrease in FE.But in my case even the acceleration is bad.

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                  • #21609
                    Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                    Originally posted by snehith View Post
                    Air filter was changed at 14k km.The engine oil change and chain lubing was done a week ago during the service and i regularly clean and lube the chain.Even the clutch plates were changed at 14k as i complained about the loss in acceleration and the svc guy suggested to change them saying they were worn out.
                    Correct me if i'm wrong but the carb tuned to rich means that there will be increase in acceleration and decrease in FE.But in my case even the acceleration is bad.
                    Have you changed the chain sprocket set ? They usually don't last more than 15-20k KMs.
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                    • #21610
                      Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                      Originally posted by snehith View Post
                      Air filter was changed at 14k km.The engine oil change and chain lubing was done a week ago during the service and i regularly clean and lube the chain.Even the clutch plates were changed at 14k as i complained about the loss in acceleration and the svc guy suggested to change them saying they were worn out.
                      Correct me if i'm wrong but the carb tuned to rich means that there will be increase in acceleration and decrease in FE.But in my case even the acceleration is bad.
                      Check the chain slackness, if it has worn out, you will have to replace it.
                      The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                      Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                      • #21611
                        Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                        My bikes display console was giving me problem since few days.

                        It was working and dying but now it is completely dead.
                        The red light comes on and goes off like usual but the display is completely off.
                        Tried display of my friends bike and the display worked.

                        Is there anyway to repair the dislay?

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                        • #21612
                          Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                          Hey Friends,
                          Recently I Replace my Air Filter ,Sparkplug, clutch cable and throttle Cable , engine oil with oil filter at 14k at ODO meter. I am facing these problem.
                          1. Bike pickup is beyond my control now...( I am trying adjusting my-self to it)
                          2. Engine was smooth earlier but not it is harsh mainly exhaust is making sound louder in lower rpm.

                          Can anyone suggest me what might be the culprit/problem so that coming Next service I can demand for it in Service Center.

                          Thank You.

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                          • #21613
                            Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                            Click image for larger version Name: IMG_20150614_134017.jpg Views: 1 Size: 71.7 KB ID: 1912768 guys!today I've checked the spark plug and this was the condition. What does it mean??is my carb tuned rich or what ?

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                            • #21614
                              Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                              Originally posted by snehith View Post
                              [ATTACH]184708[/ATTACH] guys!today I've checked the spark plug and this was the condition. What does it mean??is my carb tuned rich or what ?
                              Heavy lean

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                              • #21615
                                Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                                Originally posted by Jith_in View Post
                                Heavy lean

                                RULE The Road, But First Wear The CROWN
                                Thats a new spark plug changed 10 days ago.But after installing that new spark plug ,I'm experiencing drop in fuel efficiency.Today I've started my bike after 3 days and surprisingly it started in a single kick!

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