Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S


Hi,

I have got the same Yamaha lube 10-W-40 optima prime for my SZ-R from YAMAHA ASC. OEM Recommended oil was 20-W-40 or 20-W-50. But now the ASC is recommending this new one. I feel it is good for the engine after using.

Nidin

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

If you have money, then go for Motul 300v 15w50 (for Summer) or Motul 300v 10w40 (for Winter) for maximum performance and long drain interval e.g. 6000km. Probably Cost per km will be = (Engine Oil+Oil Filter+Mechanic Charge)/(kms ridden) = (1150+40+20)/6000=0.202 Rs/km.

If you have less money, then go for Motul 7100 20w50 (for Summer) or Elf Moto 4 XT Tech 10w50 (for All season) or Motul 7100 10w40 (for Winter) for good performance and drain interval e.g. 4000km. Cost per km = (800+40+20)/4000 = 0.215 Rs/km.

If you have further less money, then go for Motul 5100 15w50 (Summer), Smoothest but Acceleration will be decreased, Drain interval e.g. 2500km, Cost per km = (575+40+20)/2500 = 0.254 Rs/km, or Shell Advance AX7 10w40 (Winter), very light oil, use for city limits, Drain interval e.g. 1500km, Cost per km = (400+40+20)/1500 = 0.307 Rs/km

Ultimately Motul 300v is best and that's cost saving too.

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The stock MRF are best suited for FZ, because they are made specailly for FZ, Previous Gen MICHELINs are very good in terms of Grip (Dry & Wet) and costly too, but from my recent googling from Team-bho & Xbhp previous qoutes, recent MICHELINs are of TVS quality, hard compound, cost less and grip is not good. So, stick to stock. Use Gixxer's tyre MRF Zapper FX (not Yamaha fz fi's Zapper FX1), they are good. Costs around 2500. Go to any MRF Dealer.

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See your SZ-R's user manual, it must be written to use 20W40 or 20W50.
Actually Yamaha ASC had a survey of customer feedback and they checked that the cost of Yamalube Semi-Synthetic 15W50 (manufactured by Motul) was costly 550/-, plus Oil Filter 40/-, Drain Interval is around 2500-3000km. So the cost of ownership is higher. So they now importing a new Yamalube which is fully synthetic, as well as cheap 450/-, but 10w40 (very thin than previous).
You will find the fact from google that, 10w40 is not suitable for Hot Climate Countries like India.
So it's better to stick to recommendation of 20w40 or 20w50.
If your bike is ridden 5000km+. Then switch to Motul 300v 15w50. It is best for 150cc & above.

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Yes I know this. My bike is second hand one. First I have used 20W40 oil purchased on line. For the last oil change I have visited Yamaha showroom. And they have only this 10W40 oil. They are saying that now the company is recommending 10w40 oil for my bike. And the sticker on the bottle also showing SZ-R. My bike has completed 15K+ on odo. Next time I will try Motul 300v 15w50 as you suggested.

Thanks,
Nidin

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People all over internet are confused with Michelins. Like Zapper XYZ, there are numerous variants with Michelin Pilot series including Road for SBK. Confused as previous gen is the Pilot Street and confused are recent ones are Pilot Sporty. Both are still available and Pilot Streets are any day superior over Stock MRFs.

Yamalube sold in over for the past 2-3 years were all Made in India, manufactured by Atlanta Lubricants. After SZ launch, they switched vendors and now all made by Savitha aka Savsol. (Even CBR had FS at cheaper price since beginning).

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Pilot Street is good, pilot sporty is the one which isn't good.

Earlier I think they were imported from Thailand just like the M45s and Siracs. But now it seems pilot sporty is made here and has a harder compound.

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More over, Yamaha is now sourcing from CEAT. Newer FZs are coming with CEAT Zoom 100/80-17 and 140/60-17. Spare tyres have already reached showroom, looks exactly similar to stock MRF. Also Yamaha commuters and scooter range came with CEATs.

Some of the Pune FZians here did the testing for CEAT on their own FZs before its launch.

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So Yamaha is now giving CEAT Tyres. Bad move IMO or maybe good for some who want to have more kms from the tyres.

Btw [MENTION=16677]deville_56[/MENTION].. what were the view of those who tested the new tyre? performance wise different from the MRF ones?

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Better wet grip than MRF (this was the initial review, not sure of long term). [MENTION=37553]bilalans[/MENTION] was one of them and is still using it I think.

Only Google link to xbhp.com was [MENTION=63961]chakresh[/MENTION] 's thread http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...untains-5.html Most OEMs have switched to CEAT, either Zoom or Gripp.

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Good to know. Well, if the performance is equally good or ever better, who are we to complain.

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From where i can get fz16 owners manuals? Please guide me.

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Don't get me wrong as far as I know Motul & previous Yamalubes are marketed & imported by Atlantic Lubricants, that's why I said that.
The problem is with the new oils that they are not good because after 2000km, it turns black thin water.

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Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Motul was imported by and Yamalube was manufactured to Yamaha's spec by Atlanta. Made to cost OEM oils are mostly likely that. New Yamalube FS was good, but I could not use for good km as I had serviced the bike prematurely at 1L. For me, most trusted is still 5100

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

a very basic question i find front end to be very soft while cornering . as their is no adjustment can be done so does stiffening the rear monoshock to maximum preload would help..right now i am already on 5(7 maximum stiff)..would it improve front end feedback or else just wear out suspension..

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Stiffening the rear improves handling though not sure how much it can help reduce the softness of front. Using the next higher viscosity fork oil can stiffen up the front end (Not sure of the stock grade )