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  • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

    Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
    Stiffening the rear improves handling though not sure how much it can help reduce the softness of front. Using the next higher viscosity fork oil can stiffen up the front end (Not sure of the stock grade )
    fork oil change is something i want to keep as a last option. one more thing my bikes handlebar is tilted towards left after a minor spill , i have changed the handlebar , straighten the forks but still no improvement so it is stem t that is the culprit here ?..oh congrats for crossing 1l kms..

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    • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

      Originally posted by ronit1992 View Post
      fork oil change is something i want to keep as a last option. one more thing my bikes handlebar is tilted towards left after a minor spill , i have changed the handlebar , straighten the forks but still no improvement so it is stem t that is the culprit here ?..oh congrats for crossing 1l kms..
      Thanku thanku

      Fork might be misaligned. Loosen the clamps, and adjust the alignment. Remove mudguard and check whether headlight and tyre is in line. I had the trouble every time they remove and refit fork.
      #RetiredRider
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      • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

        Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
        Thanku thanku

        Fork might be misaligned. Loosen the clamps, and adjust the alignment. Remove mudguard and check whether headlight and tyre is in line. I had the trouble every time they remove and refit fork.
        already done that..svc are a pita they say itna toh chalta hai.lol...their is a contrain strain on my left hand while riding..i might sell my bike just because of this its that irritating..again i am quoting handlebar has been change forks are aligned but still handlebar is tilted ..anything else to check..one more thing bike doesnot stray either left or right when i remove my hands..does that indicate something?.

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        • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

          Thanks Bro

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          • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

            Originally posted by ronit1992 View Post
            already done that..svc are a pita they say itna toh chalta hai.lol...their is a contrain strain on my left hand while riding..i might sell my bike just because of this its that irritating..again i am quoting handlebar has been change forks are aligned but still handlebar is tilted ..anything else to check..one more thing bike doesnot stray either left or right when i remove my hands..does that indicate something?.
            Then triple clamp is the last thing to check.
            #RetiredRider
            #KeyboardWarrior

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            • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

              I am planning to switch engine oil from Yamalube(SL 20W40, the default one??) to fully synthetic oil like motul 5100 / 300v.
              Do I need to buy an engine flush in order to make use of fully synthetic oil.

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              • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                Originally posted by eagle06 View Post
                I am planning to switch engine oil from Yamalube(SL 20W40, the default one??) to fully synthetic oil like motul 5100 / 300v.
                Do I need to buy an engine flush in order to make use of fully synthetic oil.
                First of all 5100 is semi synthetic and only 7100 and 300V is fully synthetic.

                300V wont yield any good results as for the reasons mentioned below :

                1. It is not available in 20W 40 grade, it is available only in 10W 40 and 10W 30.
                2. As your bike is completely relying on air to cool down, the oil will loose its viscosity very soon so you need to make frequent oil changes and that will cost you a bomb 1085 rs for each 1L bottle.
                3. I have experienced leaks with 300V

                Its better to stay with yamalube or the semi synthetic 5100 20W 50, no point in going in 300V or 7100.

                Cheers,
                Sanjay
                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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                • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                  Again had bad luck with my fzs and all electrical things went down one by one. First the bulb and than instrument cluster. I had my bike checked by the svc guy and the fuse that sits besides the battery was completely melted. He said he will check the charger tomorrow for over current from charger.
                  Is there any way cluster can be repaired. If no can i use fzs v2 cluster.
                  And one more thing can i continue my odo meter from where it has stopped working on new meter.
                  Last edited by Aakash Singh; 07-18-2016, 10:16 PM.

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                  • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                    Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
                    "It is not available in 20W 40 grade, it is available only in 10W 40 and 10W 30."
                    Hey Buddy, check online shopping sites. 300v is available in 5w30, 10w40 & 15w50.

                    Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
                    "As your bike is completely relying on air to cool down, the oil will loose its viscosity very soon so you need to make frequent oil changes and that will cost you a bomb 1085 rs for each 1L bottle."
                    This is multi grade full synthetic oil with double ester, this oil (300v) is by far one the best synthetic oil available in india to use 150cc & above.

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                    technical spec of Motul 300v 15w50

                    Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
                    "I have experienced leaks with 300V"
                    I am using it (motul 300v 15w50) from 5000km on odo, and now my bike is running 32700km+, drain interval was 5000-6000km, still no leakage. I am 1st time seeing a person complaining Motul 300v and the person is you.

                    Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
                    "Its better to stay with yamalube or the semi synthetic 5100 20W 50, no point in going in 300V or 7100."
                    Motul 5100 is 15w50

                    Please do not mislead poeple.

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                    Originally posted by eagle06 View Post
                    I am planning to switch engine oil from Yamalube(SL 20W40, the default one??) to fully synthetic oil like motul 5100 / 300v.
                    Do I need to buy an engine flush in order to make use of fully synthetic oil.
                    Regards
                    Saikat

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                    • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                      Originally posted by saikatbyte View Post
                      Hey Buddy, check online shopping sites. 300v is available in 5w30, 10w40 & 15w50.


                      This is multi grade full synthetic oil with double ester, this oil (300v) is by far one the best synthetic oil available in india to use 150cc & above.

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                      technical spec of Motul 300v 15w50


                      I am using it (motul 300v 15w50) from 5000km on odo, and now my bike is running 32700km+, drain interval was 5000-6000km, still no leakage. I am 1st time seeing a person complaining Motul 300v and the person is you.


                      Motul 5100 is 15w50

                      Please do not mislead poeple.

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                      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ml#post1242532
                      AFAIK, you are not supposed to change the value which comes before the W which means you can change the latter value.

                      For example a manufacturer recommends 10 w30 in this case you can change to 10 w40. Please read the thread specially created for OILS.

                      and now coming to the drain interval of 300v, ohh man thats a very big joke of drain interval of 5-6k. Even my liquid cooled cbr250 runs on 10 w40 and sometimes in 10 w30 and the drain interval at the max i could achieve was 4.5 - 5k.

                      I will point at you, to not mislead people. And by claiming in a very bold manner that you drain your oil at 5-6k you need to check your credibility first

                      If your bike can hold a drain interval of 5-6k then my bike can also have oil leaks and mind you, i have used motul 300v on pulsar 220 as well fzs.

                      A bit more to add, you claim that motul 300v is by far the best oil. ***** please, i can claim shell advance ultra 10 w40 is much superior.

                      So what if am the first and last person who has experienced leaks with a thinner oil, I did accept that I HAVE experienced leaks. You forgot to see the I.

                      And the chart of viscosity which you have provided, i would like to add something, Air cooled engines can sometimes touch temp above 120-130 degree Celsius. The molecules will break soon at higher temperatures. I can believe a drain interval of 3-4k but 5k and above that 6k is pure misleading.

                      Cheers,
                      Sanjay
                      Last edited by sanjaysangar1990; 07-19-2016, 11:18 PM.
                      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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                      • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                        There's not much difference between Motul 5100 and 300V in terms of performance in our small capacity bikes. Heck, I feel full synthetic is not needed for small capacity bikes.

                        But yes, 300V can last long, but only in ideal conditions. I don't know if you would believe it, but my friend used 300V on his Unicorn Dazzler for 8700kms. When drained it still had it's green color and there was negligible evaporation and no leaks. I know it isn't good to use oil for that long. In fact the oil still had life, but I advised him to change it.

                        All bikes behave differently to different oil. We can't say how a FZ or 220 will like 300V. 300V maybe the most technologically advanced oil, but we can't say it's the best.
                        Last edited by Shashank K R; 07-19-2016, 11:55 PM.

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                        • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                          Well for some, experiments work and for some don't, I had a bad experince and its ok to warn others and besides it is still not worthy to spend on such an expensive oil just for a commmuter 150cc bikes.

                          I do agree, I mistyped about the grade for 5100.

                          Cheers,
                          Sanjay
                          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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                          • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                            Very true, I wasted 800 for 7100 on my Unicorn and it didn't feel any different from Shell AX7. Mineral oil and draining every 2000km is sufficient.

                            Sorry for OT.

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                            • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                              Motul 5100 used to come in 10w40 as well.
                              #RetiredRider
                              #KeyboardWarrior

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                              • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                                Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
                                Motul 5100 used to come in 10w40 as well.
                                In India, when?
                                However, check this:
                                5100 10w30 : Motul 5100-4t-10w30
                                5100 10w40 : Motul 5100-4t-10w40
                                5100 15w50 : Motul 5100-4t-10w40

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